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Title: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 22 May 2012, 02:55:18 PM
Here is the opposition to my BEF, some 1914 Germans. The only interloper is a Brit officer who has managed to infiltrate the command team disguised as a German, otherwise these are all standard early war German figures. They are based up for Phil Barker's Horse, Foot and Gun rules so one infantry element represents a full-strength battalion, cavalry a brigade or so and artillery about 18 guns. This therefore represents a division plus a few cav. Now working on some Jaeger to add variation and thinking about some head swapping to create some dragoons and maybe cuirassiers. Hope they are of interest.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Germanscomplete.jpg)
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Germaninfantry.jpg)
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Germancomdandcavalry.jpg)
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Germanartillery.jpg)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 May 2012, 02:58:04 PM
Those are great! Nice work sire!
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Leon on 22 May 2012, 03:18:54 PM
Excellent, thanks for posting!

8)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: mijalo on 22 May 2012, 04:23:00 PM
Splendid paint job. Prefer your BEF, but that's just me being biased ;)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: nikharwood on 22 May 2012, 09:53:35 PM
Very nice indeed  8)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 22 May 2012, 10:18:49 PM
Thank you all for the kind comments.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Hertsblue on 23 May 2012, 09:45:24 AM
Very neat. And the Brit officer fits in nicely.  :-bd
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: lekw on 23 May 2012, 01:26:31 PM
Great job, they look very good.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Bernie on 23 May 2012, 07:15:39 PM
Just ordered some early war WWI and glad I did having seen the nice way you have painted and based your figures

Bernie
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 25 May 2012, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: Bernie on 23 May 2012, 07:15:39 PM
Just ordered some early war WWI and glad I did having seen the nice way you have painted and based your figures

Glad you like the result, Bernie: they're nice figures to paint up - I've ordered some of the early war infantry with backpacks to go with these so will be adding to the force once they've arrived.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Aart Brouwer on 26 May 2012, 07:50:09 AM
Hmmm, gorgeous. Nice palette, too, with the toned-down browns and greens 'n all. Great job, Sir.

Cheers,
Aart
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 28 May 2012, 11:23:49 AM
Thanks, Aart. Here's my next batch, some Jaeger (GP 15). I really like this set of figures which were a pleasure to paint. The base colour for the uniform was Vallejo German Field Grey WWII (830) to represent grey-green of the Jaegers and to contrast with the lighter grey of the 'standard' Germans.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Jaegerscomplete.jpg)

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Jaegersright.jpg)

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Jaegersleft.jpg)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Bernie on 28 May 2012, 07:38:51 PM
Jaegers look really good

Need some cavalry for them to operate with

Does anyone do bicylcles in 10mm as they oftem impressed them to increase their mobility?
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 28 May 2012, 08:42:14 PM
Thanks Bernie. More cavalry are on the 'to do' list but I want to do some head-swapping to make some dragoons/cuirassiers form the Uhlans so will be a while yet I think.

As far as the Jaeger are concerned, my understanding is that they had a cycle-mounted company in each battalion. Don't know about the availability of bicycles in 10mm but since many armies had bicycle companies in 1914 it would be good if they were available. Wrong nationality but found this brilliant website on French folding bicycles - surely must inspire someone to make a figure carrying a folded bike on his back? http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/1898-1914-peugeot-captain-gerard-folding-bicycle/ (http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/1898-1914-peugeot-captain-gerard-folding-bicycle/)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: mollinary on 28 May 2012, 09:14:31 PM
GR45 in the Pendraken WWII range is pushing a bicycle - conversion possibility?

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: OldenBUA on 29 May 2012, 05:42:10 AM
Quote from: Bernie on 28 May 2012, 07:38:51 PM
Does anyone do bicylcles in 10mm as they oftem impressed them to increase their mobility?

You could try the N-scale manufacturers. Here are some, these are supplied in kit form. You can also buy them ready made.

http://www.artitec.nl/index.php/en/kits/item/n-bikes-old-n?category_id=124
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 29 May 2012, 02:05:32 PM
This bicycling thing is looking interesting. Must investigate further  :-\
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Bernie on 30 May 2012, 07:17:00 PM
Hi

Anorak alert

Yep the Jaeger bicylce units were amalgamated into adhoc battalions, but the remaining Jaegers liberated bikes as they went so a hefty portion of the so-called foot Jaegers were mounted on bikes or civilian cars/lorries which carried their packs. This accounts for the amazing march rates of these battalions in Belgium in 1914 - 40-50km per day

I'll get some of the WWII bicycle packs and try some conversions

Thanks
Bernie
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 14 June 2012, 09:15:58 AM
Work continues on my Germans and have just received some of the GP23 infantry with packs and pickelhaube. Will get on to those to beef up my infantry to a complete corps. Meanwhile, been converting some GP3 uhlans into dragoons by swapping heads. The donors, may they rest in pieces, were the chaps running with rifle at trail in set GP1. No other details were changed and here's the result:
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Wargame%20Army/Germandragoons2.jpg)
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/realthing141/Wargame%20Army/Germandragoons1.jpg)
Quite pleased with the result so will do a few more elements. To be honest, I'm not too worried about fine points of accuracy so may also treat these as cuirassiers despite the difference in the shape of the helmet, particularly at the back. Will also have a bash at converting some into hussars.
A simple conversion and hopefully one that Pendraken will consider as well. The officer would be particularly useful as a generic mounted type and I plan to do a couple of those in due course for command elements.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 June 2012, 10:10:19 AM
Really looking good, nice conversion!  :D
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: mollinary on 14 June 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Those look great.   Don't forget that the FPW range might be able to provide the heads you are looking for.

Mollinary
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 15 June 2012, 07:43:41 AM
Thanks guys and for the suggestion re. the FPW figures. I'd wondered about using the hussars as donors for heads or even converting the whole figure. Must investigate more closely.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Hertsblue on 15 June 2012, 07:49:10 AM
Yes, the PFW Prussian cuirassier heads would do nicely for WW1. You might have difficulty getting them off, though, as the cuirassier is hunched forward over his horse's neck.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Leveller Mutineer on 15 June 2012, 10:58:51 AM
How much difference would a FPW cuirassier be to a WWI version at this scale?  I'm thinking that rather than replacing heads, could the whole figure itself be converted.  Obviously if the cuirass itself was too prominent it could be a problem.  But what about the FPW Dragoons?  They could be a lot plainer figure (no pic) and so could be more easily converted?

Just a thought.  :-\
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 June 2012, 11:03:20 AM
The WWI Curriassier helmet is a lot longer at the back as I recall!
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Fenton on 15 June 2012, 11:19:49 AM
I think Pithead do some Belgians on cycles?
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Leveller Mutineer on 15 June 2012, 11:23:34 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 15 June 2012, 11:03:20 AM
The WWI Curriassier helmet is a lot longer at the back as I recall!

Touch of milliput (or other putty) do it? 
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Hertsblue on 15 June 2012, 01:59:52 PM
Quote from: Leveller Mutineer on 15 June 2012, 10:58:51 AM
How much difference would a FPW cuirassier be to a WWI version at this scale?  I'm thinking that rather than replacing heads, could the whole figure itself be converted.  Obviously if the cuirass itself was too prominent it could be a problem.  But what about the FPW Dragoons?  They could be a lot plainer figure (no pic) and so could be more easily converted?

Just a thought.  :-\

Wouldn't be too difficult to replace the cuirassier's sword with a lance. The edging of the cuirass could be eased off with a sharp knife. The officer only needs the cuirass toned down and the trumpeter doesn't wear a cuirass anyway.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Leveller Mutineer on 15 June 2012, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 15 June 2012, 01:59:52 PM
Wouldn't be too difficult to replace the cuirassier's sword with a lance. The edging of the cuirass could be eased off with a sharp knife. The officer only needs the cuirass toned down and the trumpeter doesn't wear a cuirass anyway.

The question is did they take their lances into combat?  I even remember seeing a photo of Uhlans riding to the front without them, armed with just swords and carbines.  If you want all the German Cavalry to be represented carrying lances then it's a problem.  However I may just have my Uhlans with the lance and I might use the FPW Dragoons for the rest.  Anyone got a picture?
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: kustenjaeger on 15 June 2012, 06:25:00 PM
Greetings

http://www.allworldwars.com/German-World-War-I-Postcards-Part-I.html has a picture of mounted cuirassiers and another of mounted dragoons both with lances.  Quite a lot of other good photos as well.

Regards

Edward
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Bernie on 15 June 2012, 07:02:53 PM
I am using the Pendraken Belgian guide cavalry who carry and lance and wearing a large busby as German Hussars to provide a bit of variety from the Uhlans
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 16 June 2012, 07:41:02 AM
Great postcards, Edward, many thanks for sharing the link. Really helpful discussions too; will check out the various ideas regarding figures
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Hertsblue on 16 June 2012, 07:54:26 AM
Quote from: kustenjaeger on 15 June 2012, 06:25:00 PM
Greetings

http://www.allworldwars.com/German-World-War-I-Postcards-Part-I.html has a picture of mounted cuirassiers and another of mounted dragoons both with lances.  Quite a lot of other good photos as well.

Regards

Edward

Great series of cards, Edward. Interesting to note that one group of cavalry not only has lances but also lance-pennons. I had always understood that they were never employed in wartime.  :-\
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: nikharwood on 16 June 2012, 08:19:15 AM
That's a fascinating series - I love the Goulash Cannon (field kitchen) & the soldiers convalescing...by hitting seven bells out of each other  :D
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: J.S. on 06 July 2012, 10:37:04 PM
Just as good as your French, lovely paint job!  8)
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 07 July 2012, 05:56:20 PM
Thank you JS. More to come in due course.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: moocifer on 22 November 2012, 08:38:03 PM
Are the bases 40mm wide ??
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 23 November 2012, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: moocifer on 22 November 2012, 08:38:03 PM
Are the bases 40mm wide ??
Yes, 40 x 30 for the infantry and the staff, 40 x 40 for all the others
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Womble67 on 22 December 2012, 10:57:45 AM
Hi

Very nice         

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: Techno on 22 December 2012, 11:45:01 AM
Another thread I've somehow missed.

Brilliant !! 8)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: 1914 Germans
Post by: realthing on 23 December 2012, 10:35:25 PM
Many thanks, guys