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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: GrumpyOldMan on 10 May 2012, 01:06:01 AM

Title: SCW108 British 4.5" field gun?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 10 May 2012, 01:06:01 AM
Hi

Is the gun here the BL 4.5 inch Medium Field Gun (only becoming available in the late 30s),

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/British_4.5_inch_gun_in_Bragan%C3%A7a%2C_Portugal.jpg/300px-British_4.5_inch_gun_in_Bragan%C3%A7a%2C_Portugal.jpg)

or the QF 4.5 inch Howitzer

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/4.5inchHowitzerComouflaged1917.jpg/300px-4.5inchHowitzerComouflaged1917.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/4.5inchHowitzerNZEF6July1940.jpg/220px-4.5inchHowitzerNZEF6July1940.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Title: Re: SCW108 British 4.5" field gun?
Post by: PeterRushton on 11 May 2012, 11:27:24 PM
QF Howitzer. Like the 2nd photo.
Title: Re: SCW108 British 4.5" field gun?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 14 May 2012, 10:15:42 PM
Hi PeterRushton

Thanks for the reply. Now I can work out my artillery requirements  :).

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: SCW108 British 4.5" field gun?
Post by: Sunray on 15 May 2012, 11:32:59 AM
 Vic

The top image is correct for the 4.5" BL Gun introduced in the 1930s.  It shared the same carriage as the 5.5" - and the same "horns"- so is often confused with it. The BL 4.5 medium gun fired a 24.9 kg shell at a MZ of 685 m/sec with a max range of 18,745 meters

The second and third images are both of the 4.5 QF howitzer introduced as early as 1904.  It fired a 15.9kg shell at a MZ of 655m/sec with a max range of 9150
Source - Ivan V. Hogg Encyclopia of Artillery (1987, pp., 101-102)

Both pieces of ordnance have a role in VBCW.

Sunray out
Title: Re: SCW108 British 4.5" field gun?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 May 2012, 04:32:03 PM
Dont want to rain on your pardae about 4.5"  gun, but not till late 41 at the earliest, and rare , there were roblems with the carrige apparently.


IanS
Title: Re: SCW108 British 4.5" field gun?
Post by: Sunray on 15 May 2012, 04:59:54 PM


VBCW is a 'fantasy' counterfactual period so it depends on the gamer how late he wants to play.   I have seen  'post 1919 Revolution' to late 1930s abdication crisis - 1940s being played.

The later games allow more WW2 stuff to be used which suits gamers who have these forces.   Nick even games a modern version using NATO troops

Sunray Out