I recently bought some winter German and Russian figures, and this has reinvigorated my painting and gaming enthusiasm, which had been sadly lacking over the last few months.
Here I'll post my progress with getting them based and painted, starting with the Wehrmacht.
Bases sorted out, and ready to be assembled (once I buy some more superglue). These will give me either an almost full strength battalion, or two half-strength ones, plus regimental support. Based for BKC II.
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/52856652/Painting%20progress%20%281%29%20Before%20assembly.JPG)
Glad you are back in the groove KD, and I shall watch the progress with interest.
Phase 2: undercoated. Used Plasticote grey. I'll be experimenting with inking with black at this stage, then doing drybrushing and detailing, raher than doing the inking at the end. It may not make any difference, but you never know!
Whole lot:
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53054524/Painting%20progress%20%282a%29%20based%20coated%20-%20all.JPG)
CO:
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53054526/Painting%20progress%20%282b%29%20based%20coated%20-%20CO.JPG)
Inked infantry base - I think it needs more/denser ink - this one has been thinned beforehand.
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53054528/Painting%20progress%20%282c%29%20based%20coated%20-%20inked%20infantry.JPG)
The ink looks quite good, I'm interested to see if it has much affect after you've got them painted up.
The ink certainly brings out the detail, but aren't you going to cover it all up again when you put the next coat on? Either that or you're going to have to paint around it fairly accurately. :-\
Quote from: Hertsblue on 25 April 2012, 08:21:54 AM
The ink certainly brings out the detail, but aren't you going to cover it all up again when you put the next coat on? Either that or you're going to have to paint around it fairly accurately. :-\
I'm aiming at drybrushing a lighter grey or white (as whim dictates), then picking out detail. However, this may not work as expected because a) the ink isn't dark enough; b) my drybrushing will be too vigourous; c) my eyes are starting to let me down, so doing the detail may become a pain.
I probably should have done them with a black undercoat, but I've found that trying to get white looking half-way decent on a black undercoat takes forever....
I'll do an update later this week hopefully :)
something to try KD. If you are washing over your base paint use watered down darker shade paint (black in the case of over grey) as opposed to inks.
It's a much thicker coverage but I find gives a better tonal effect. It looks messy but as you are highlighting after it not a problem.
The process I use is Base colour, wash with watered down darker shade, 1st highlight with original highlight, 2nd highlight original colour 50% plus 50% other lighter shade, 3rd highlight if required, done. I don't dry brush or overwash (then again I am a bit anal and it takes ages to finish anything)
Cheers Matt :) I too am a bit ****, and find it difficult to to the last 10% of a project in case it doesn't come out perfect.... :(
I've tried the wash over base coat the paint. But have gone back to white base coat, block paint with thinned colours ( which gives shading and highlighting ) and then a pale brown wash over the top.
Well, the thinned black paint as a wash didnlt quite work, but it wasn't too bad. At least it gave am a dark base to work form.
Have now done two semi-dry brushes with a medium and a light grey:
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53308159/Painting%20progress%20%283a%29%20grey%20highlights%20-%20CO.JPG)
CO
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53308161/Painting%20progress%20%283b%29%20grey%20highlights%20-%20Infantrry.JPG)
Infantry
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53308163/Painting%20progress%20%283c%29%20grey%20highlights%20-%20PaK%2040.JPG)
Pak 40
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53308164/Painting%20progress%20%283d%29%20grey%20highlights%20-%20Engineers.JPG)
Engineers
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53308165/Painting%20progress%20%283e%29%20grey%20highlights%20-%20105mm%20gun.JPG)
105mm gun
Next step is to do random white bits - helmets, jackets; trousers, then on to detail.
looks like you have a good base to work from there
Looking forward to the next installments in how your force's painting is progressing
Dopey question time: what colour should I painting heavy equipment (principally infantry guns and anti-tank guns for 1943/44)? Base coat of Dunkelgelb with a white-wash effect, or a base coat of white with maybe a camo pattern? My Google-Fu is weak on this ....
They could be dunkelgelb with brown or green camo on them, or a combination of both. For '43 you would probably find stuff still in dark grey, possibly with dunklegelb camo on that. Hope this helps?
Even in winter? I guess I could go for dunklegelb + camo with a rough white over-brush...
From a German modelling site. It applies to guns in the same way as vehicles, they all used the same method.
"In general, World War II white winter paint overcoats were applied with temporary paints or pastes. These overcoats were applied in various ways, using a spray gun, brush, broom, or rag, depending upon the resources of the vehicle’s crew. They were often applied on a dirty surface, and were subject to harsh weather conditions. Consequently, the temporary paints did not wear well, and soon began to rub off, revealing the original color of the vehicle, along with its dirt. Also, the white would mix with dirt causing it to turn a muddy color. In time, the winter painted tank would look quite motley with portions of the white worn or washed off, the underlying color revealed, and lots of dirt and streaky mud effects."
http://www.miniatures.de/winter.html
Thanks for that OB :)
'Messy' then mate ;) ;D 8)
Quote from: nikharwood on 08 May 2012, 07:47:15 PM
'Messy' then mate ;) ;D 8)
Sounds like my kinda painting style.... :D
Yeah, brush, broom and rag is the painting technique that you need to master.
Not much progress on this lot, as I got distracted by painting some scenery http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/page/7780162/Scenery%20-%2010mm (http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/page/7780162/Scenery%20-%2010mm) (the ones that the bottom of the page)
Those are very nice mate 8)
Cheers Nik! They came out better than I expected :)
Like the canal. Just the right feature to grace(?) a WW2 landscape. :-bd
THOSE ARE REALLY COOL!
More distractions :
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53949018/Pendraken%20Russian%20house%20and%20barn.JPG)
Pendraken PS41
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53949016/Pendraken%20Russian%20house%20%28front%29.JPG)(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53949017/Pendraken%20Russian%20house%20%28rear%29.JPG)
Pendraken PS40
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53949011/Pendraken%20Russian%20barn%20%28front%29.JPG)(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/53949014/Pendraken%20Russian%20barn%20%28rear%29.JPG)
Not entirely convinced by the snow, but it does the job :)
(And I had man-flu last week, so these were easier to do and didn't require vast amount of focus/concentration)
Up close the snow looks a bit grainy - but fine from a distance I would guess. :-bd
Yeah - I was hoping it was going to come out flatter, but as the GF9 snow is quite grainy, I'll have to live with it. Or maybe come up with a better way - make a paste perhaps?
I did hear of people using flour for snow. You'd have to seal it, I think. :-\
Quote from: Kiwidave on 24 May 2012, 08:04:10 AM
Or maybe come up with a better way - make a paste perhaps?
That's what I do mate - mix up PVA, water, white paint & your snow...looks like this:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42562.jpg)
I'll have to try that approach Nik :)
After a bit of a hiatus due to watching football, other distractions and a bad bout of can't-be-arsed, here is some progress:
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/55310319/Painting%20progress%20%284a%29%20-%20white%20camo%2C%20%20weapons%20and%20gloves%20done.JPG)
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/55310321/Painting%20progress%20%284b%29%20-%20white%20camo%2C%20%20weapons%20and%20gloves%20done.JPG)
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/55310322/Painting%20progress%20%284c%29%20-%20white%20camo%2C%20%20weapons%20and%20gloves%20done.JPG)
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/55310323/Painting%20progress%20%284d%29%20-%20white%20camo%2C%20%20weapons%20and%20gloves%20done.JPG)
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/55310328/Painting%20progress%20%284e%29%20-%20white%20camo%2C%20%20weapons%20and%20gloves%20done.JPG)
Do to: paint the webbing, packs, water bottles etc (and maybe boots); paint radios, flame throwers and mine detectors; paint the CO's table and other bric-a-brac; 'whitewash' the artillery; ink the whole lot and base them.
Distractions were these:
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/55310330/Winter%20trees.JPG)
They need the bases doing (either just heavy white dry-brush, or Nik's paste method)
I might have been better off just buying trees that were already flocked, as this lot took ages and two coats of flock and two coats of spray matt varnish. I'm not entirely happy with them as there are as white as I'd hoped - the Gale Force 9 snow gets translucent when sprayed with varnish, which makes the underlying colour show though a bit - so I might dry-brush with some household white satin.
Wrong time of year (another week or so needed :'() but you could try Chistmas Deorations Spray Snow. may need a cople of coats, but it won't come off........
IanS
Not a bad idea Ian. I'll have a look in the local Pound Shop :)