Has anyone played warmaster seven years war?
Or even if there is such a variation say 1700 - 1815
Regards mike
I've seen WM Medievals used for ECW, but nothing later that I know of? It'd be interesting to see if anyone has tried it?
There is a Napmaster variant about - I'm sure Nik's used this.
I've got an AWI version that was published in one of the wargaming magazines
This is a Black Powder version of BKC, which is itself a version of Warmaster. I haven't tried it but aim to at some point soon. Hope this helps?
http://canuckcommander.pbworks.com/f/BPTCommanderV4.pdf
Thanks Steve,
I've not played Black Powder rules before, if it works at battalion level, (I've only ever used Charge! for SYW) then it'll be good.
I like to see the separate battalions in a regiment, and the separate Standards.
Best Regards
Mike
Yep - I've got WM variants for:
- Renaissance / ECW
- Marlburian
- AWI
- Napoleonics
- ACW
- FPW
I've not found a SYW specific variant - surprisingly - but the AWI one [with some tweaking] would be a good kick-off point: you can get it here [and very nice it is too]:
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/pdfs/Two_for_Tea.pdf
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/pdfs/AWI_Brandywine.pdf
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/pdfs/AWI_Scenarios.pdf
Having said that, 'Maurice' looks good to me for SYW as well - might be worth a look too - here:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4823.0.html
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4939.0.html
Quote from: nikharwood on 04 April 2012, 10:05:15 PM
Yep - I've got WM variants for:
- Renaissance / ECW...
My word, another gamer who actually knows that the ECW was not fought during the renaissance! I'm not alone on this planet, after all.
I suppose the renaissance began somewhere during the 100 years war when the
Archers stopped knights or perhaps later when archers couldn't stop knights.
Or at Pavia.
Things were very fluid then, possibly until Marlborough obtained his first decisive victory.
Perhaps , before when the pike and Halberd became decorative.
Even the Napoleonic Wars are split into time periods.
ie. revolutionary, 1805, 1806/7, 1809, 1812, 1813/14,
The Hundred Days.
Even 1813 changed after the truce.
Best Regards
Mike
Begins with Giotto, ends with Michelangelo. Anything else is trying to hijack mana from the terminology.
I have spoken.
Too dogmatic FK, or should that be catmatic? Art historians generally agree it began with Giotto but military historians usually date it much later, to Castillon in 1453 and the first effective use of massed artillery, then again literary historians might say it began with the works of Chaucer, Dante, and Petrarch, all writing in the 14th century.
The same applies to defining an end point. Bertrand Russell thought it ended in 1641 with the publication of Meditationes by Descartes, some military historians with the end of the Thirty Years War, others even later with the death of Louis XIV in 1715. So you see, there's more than one way to skin a cat - so to speak.
Dixi.
Much sense in your points, except that I have yet to meet one person who actually reads Chaucer by choice. Since Pope, he's in the same position as Homer after Star Wars - exists only as a context for much better stuff.
I have spoken again.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 April 2012, 12:23:05 PM
he's in the same position as Homer after Star Wars - exists only as a context for much better stuff.
Κάνουμε εσύ την υπεροπτική πνεύμα στο στήθος σου, για καλύτερη μέχρι τώρα είναι ελαφριά ευγένεια
Dixi (iter).
"We make you the haughty spirit in your chest, for better far is courtesy light"
This is what Google Translator comes up with.....
As any fule kno...
Sounds like Yoda. :D
Chad
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 April 2012, 09:50:13 AM
Begins with Giotto, ends with Michelangelo. Anything else is trying to hijack mana from the terminology.
I have spoken.
Was that the Italian Wars or Valois Hapsberg Warsand what side wer they on?
Can of worms this one!
Renaissance 1485 - 1603 - or was on my two university courses. First thing Prof S Pumfrey said was 'Ignore those dates, I just ahd to give something into the departmental secretary so I wasn't stepping on anyone elses course!'
Renaissance Italy is a lot earlier (1300s to Gallileo) than Renaissance Britain (which can be roughly dated to the Tudors), so very much a moveable feast! Basically the dividing line for the end for Prof Punfrey after 1688...
Wiki (which must be right) says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance)
Quote from: nikharwood on 04 April 2012, 10:05:15 PM
Yep - I've got WM variants for:
- Renaissance / ECW
- Marlburian
- AWI
- Napoleonics
- ACW
- FPW
The AWI look good. What magazine where they in?
Where can I get hold of the others, they seem to cover just about everything. (Give or take )
Mike
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/pdfs/Two_for_Tea.pdf
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/pdfs/AWI_Brandywine.pdf
http://www.rebelpublishing.net/pdfs/AWI_Scenarios.pdf
Having said that, 'Maurice' looks good to me for SYW as well - might be worth a look too - here:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4823.0.html
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4939.0.html
Those look the bee's knees.
Quote from: Steve J on 05 April 2012, 02:21:40 PM
"We make you the haughty spirit in your chest, for better far is courtesy light"
This is what Google Translator comes up with.....
Restrain the haughty spirit in thy breast, gentle courtesy is better by far.
Homer
Quote from: Chad on 05 April 2012, 02:27:46 PM
Sounds like Yoda. :D
Chad
Do not underestimate the power of Achilles, or measure your length on the ground you will....
Quote from: FierceKitty on 06 April 2012, 12:18:10 AM
Do not underestimate the power of Achilles, or measure your length on the ground you will....
Almost as good as Tancock's translation of Le Debacle! Its the kind of English up with which we should not put.
I suppose you know Housman's "Fragment of a Greek Tragedy"? http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/jod/texts/housman.html
Good grief.... :o
The stuff you learn here !
Cheers - Phil.
Fierce Kitty,
Many, many thanks for that link. Having struggled through Latin at school, and never been allowed to sully Greek with my bovine presence, I was unfamiliar with this, and the achievements of Housman in general. Housman was a name I knew only in the context of pub quizzes, for The Shropshire Lad, and I do not recall a huge emphasis on his having a good sense of humour, but this parody is priceless, particularly the last line!
Happy Easter,
Mollinary
What still alive at twenty-two,
A clean, upstanding chap like you?
Sure, if your throat 'tis hard to slit,
Slit your girl's, and swing for it.
Like enough, you won't be glad,
When they come to hang you, lad:
But bacon's not the only thing
That's cured by hanging from a string.
So, when the spilt ink of the night
Spreads o'er the blotting-pad of light,
Lads whose job is still to do
Shall whet their knives, and think of you. (Hugh Kingsmill, parodying Housman)
Housman himself said of this parody: "It's the best I have seen, and indeed, the only good one."
For me Housman is and always will be, a complete enigma. The Shropshire Lad contains some of the most beautiful prose ever written in our language juxtaposed with some of the most arrant doggerel; canto II - Lovliest of trees - magnificent - followed by The Recruit - utter crap - all that 'Ladding', sounds like an old goat, and then 'blue remembered hills' and its back to the sublime. Sometimes I wonder if he had a split personality, or whether two people wrote it not one. Thanks for the link, excellent.
But bacon's not the only thing
That's cured by hanging from a string.
I missed the above, posts passing in the night and all that; brilliant.
What prose?
You know what I mean - pedant.
@ Dragoon:
Mike - the AWI were from Wargames Journal when it was still going in hard copy.
The others are all from the Yahoo historical-warmaster group: if you email me I'll zap 'em to you :)
nikharwood AT gmail.com
Bingo :)! By chance I just checked Rick Priestly's Warmaster site and there are some new Seven Years War rules on there. Quite a few other updates as well, so worth checking.
http://www.ricks-warmaster.com/warmaster_ancients_syw.pdf
Steve J.
Lovely - good find Steve :)
Quote from: nikharwood on 06 April 2012, 12:48:30 PM
@ Dragoon:
Mike - the AWI were from Wargames Journal when it was still going in hard copy.
The others are all from the Yahoo historical-warmaster group: if you email me I'll zap 'em to you :)
nikharwood AT gmail.com
Thanks Nik much appreciated
mike dot leese at hotmail.co.uk
Mike L
Quote from: Dragoon on 09 April 2012, 06:41:25 AM
Thanks Nik much appreciated
mike dot leese at hotmail.co.uk
Mike L
Your inbox should be bulging at the seams Mike :)
Quote from: Dragoon on 04 April 2012, 05:05:58 PM
Has anyone played warmaster seven years war?
Or even if there is such a variation say 1700 - 1815
Regards mike
Give Maurice a go mate it'll be fun
Cheers Rex
Has it been published?
Mike
Mike
Full version available in about a week. 'Lite' version available as a pdf from the website.
It does not cover Napoleonics, only going up to pre.revolution.
Chad
Quote from: Chad on 16 April 2012, 11:50:12 AM
Mike
Full version available in about a week. 'Lite' version available as a pdf from the website.
It does not cover Napoleonics, only going up to pre.revolution.
Chad
Full version available online as a PDF if (as i have) you pre-order the top of the line, so thats the Book, Full Card Deck and a copy of the Full Rules (just some eye candy pics missing) PDF available for immediate download, had mine for about a three weeks now :)