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Title: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 08:22:21 PM
Hi folks,

Is anyone out there using these rules for WSS, if so can you tell me how you base them. The 18 figure battalions look ok in 28mm, but i think would look a bit sad in our chosen 10mm.

Steve.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: kustenjaeger on 15 January 2012, 08:27:14 PM
Greetings

I've got them and have some 6mm in strips which I'm using to test them with 12 figures per stand ie 36 figures + pikes per unit.  I think a 36 figure unit in 10mm would look right - though if I do it in 10mm it will be Nine Years War (ie League of Augsberg).

Regards

Edward
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 08:44:14 PM
Thanks Edward,

What size bases are you going to use. Also how are you basing your cavalry and guns.
I am thinking about campaigning in Italy,austrians v french.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: goat major on 15 January 2012, 08:52:11 PM
For LOA I've been basing on 3 x 30mm square bases. Two ranks of 4 figures on each with the middle base having a 3rd rank of pikes where required. You can see some pics here - it took some experimentation but in the end I was reasonably happy with the bases. For WSS you are probably doing without pikes, so you could maybe do 20mm deep bases. There's a few pics on my blog here ...

http://simonspaintingblogandstuff.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-post.html (http://simonspaintingblogandstuff.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-post.html)


(http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/goatmajor/DSCF1395.jpg)




Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 09:12:15 PM
Wow, they look great goat major.
Certainly gives you a better idea seeing a photo of them in the flesh so to speak. So any pictures of cavalry, artillery and commanders!!!!!!!!!!! With base sizes too.

Steve.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: fred. on 15 January 2012, 09:21:21 PM
Wow ! !  Those are really nice figures. Both the painting and the sculpting.

And now more figures have been produced.  Not sure about horse and musket, not sure that anyone else in my group plays this era.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: goat major on 15 January 2012, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 09:12:15 PM
Wow, they look great goat major.
Certainly gives you a better idea seeing a photo of them in the flesh so to speak. So any pictures of cavalry, artillery and commanders!!!!!!!!!!! With base sizes too.

Steve.

Wish I had Steve - but still waiting for them to be released !
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 10:38:56 PM
Yes, i did think that myself after i posted it, come on Leon you know what we want!!!!

But have you given any thought to base sizes and numbers for cavalry? Are the ECW or WSS cavalry not compatible with the new range.

Steve.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: goat major on 15 January 2012, 10:46:33 PM
I havent got round to it yet - I'm confident we'll get some official horse soon and i'll probably look at the basing once I've got some figures - since a lot depends on how the big the figures are. All in all base sizes don't seem to be critical in BTLB so i'll probably make it more of an aesthetic choice.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: Leon on 16 January 2012, 05:05:04 AM
Quote from: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 10:38:56 PM
Are the ECW or WSS cavalry not compatible with the new range.

They're a pretty good match if I recall correct, I'm sure there's a pic on the Forum somewhere.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: YORSTONS on 16 January 2012, 08:11:02 PM
Thanks Leon, i see there is an austrian curassier in the WSS range.
I think i will go for the 30mm x 30mm bases you are using goat major,gives a bit more room for those scenic extras for my WSS figures.

Steve.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: goat major on 16 January 2012, 08:15:21 PM
Good idea Steve, little scenic effects in bases can make quite a difference - you should be able to position the figures more centrally too - I've had to push them forward a bit so as to leave space for the 3rd rank.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 January 2012, 10:33:22 PM
Great figures up there! Wow!
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: wargamesbob on 16 January 2012, 11:23:32 PM
Great looking units, very tempting.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: ciaphas on 19 January 2012, 12:27:56 AM
We play BtLB and just use the 18 man battalion, what we found is that you can actually use the two line linner tactics of the era when using 10mm, we use the 15mm basing instructions found in the book.

jon
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: Chad on 19 January 2012, 10:25:57 AM
That's the way we are going.

Chad
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: rexhurley on 23 March 2012, 09:51:46 AM
Quote from: YORSTONS on 15 January 2012, 08:22:21 PM
Hi folks,

Is anyone out there using these rules for WSS, if so can you tell me how you base them. The 18 figure battalions look ok in 28mm, but i think would look a bit sad in our chosen 10mm.

Steve.

Hi ya Im using them as either 3 or 5 bases of foot (30x20 8 fig per base) for my games and 3-5 bases per squadron (30x20 3 fig per base) looks scrummy as for my SYW and works fine
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 23 March 2012, 10:08:22 AM
That will look good, it looks as if I will have to downsize all my armies (as I have just been downsized) into 10mm including the lovely LoA warfare 28mm figures I started.   :'( Oh well will just have to nag Clib to crack on with Pendraken range.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: clibinarium on 23 March 2012, 12:23:26 PM
I sculpt both ranges so there's nagging from both directions! Don't worry I have more 10mm in front of me right now that I'm working on.

I'm going to do some painting experiments shortly, and if they work in streamlining the process I am seriously considering using the 28mm bases for BLB and putting three times the figures on them, i.e. infantry 18 to a base.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 23 March 2012, 01:42:50 PM
My Hero!
I was considering just doing the usual reduction in bases from 28mm to 10mm however that basing idea sounds interesting, would really like to see some pics when done.
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: YORSTONS on 23 March 2012, 07:56:07 PM
Oh please,
I have just finished my first french battalion and am half way through the next on 30 x 30mm bases as per the goat major. And know you throw that one in about big bases and loads of figures.
Its just so unfair......
Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: rexhurley on 30 September 2012, 07:27:15 AM
Quote from: goat major on 15 January 2012, 08:52:11 PM
For LOA I've been basing on 3 x 30mm square bases. Two ranks of 4 figures on each with the middle base having a 3rd rank of pikes where required. You can see some pics here - it took some experimentation but in the end I was reasonably happy with the bases. For WSS you are probably doing without pikes, so you could maybe do 20mm deep bases. There's a few pics on my blog here ...

http://simonspaintingblogandstuff.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-post.html (http://simonspaintingblogandstuff.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-post.html)


(http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/goatmajor/DSCF1395.jpg)

Hey Simon oh drool gorgeous!!, New LOA Range?...god as if i need another H&M Project





Title: Re: Beyond the Lily Banners & WSS.
Post by: Techno on 30 September 2012, 07:32:25 AM
Whoa !
Here's something I've missed. #-o
Those are wonderful GM....A+ !! :-bd =D>
Cheers - Phil.