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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Derbo on 14 January 2012, 09:21:47 PM

Title: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: Derbo on 14 January 2012, 09:21:47 PM

Hello,

I´m uncertain what figures I should use for the following troops:

Hanoverian Line Cavalry (my guess would be the prussian cuirassiers. For the hanoverian Dragoons I would use their british counterparts)
Hessian Musketeers/Grenadiers and Brunswick Infantry/Grenadiers (my guess would be prussian infantry and grenadiers)
Saxony (again, my guess would be the prussian line)

If some gentlemen with more knowledge of the period could enlighten me? Please? :)

Best wishes,
Derbo
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: kustenjaeger on 15 January 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Greetings

I used Prussian cuirassiers and dragoons for Hanoverian and Hessian cavalry and dragoons and Prussian musketeers and grenadiers for Brunswick and Hessian infantry.  Haven't got as far as Saxons yet.

Regards

Edward
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: mollinary on 15 January 2012, 03:43:09 PM
Derbo,

If I recall correctly the Hanoverian Horse regiments did not wear the cuirass, and their coats did not have lapels. Bearing in mind that the "fit" of coats (loose or tight) in this scale is bit tricky to see anyway under belts etc, would Russian dragoons be a better option?  The Hanoverian dragons did have lapels, so their Prussian counterparts would be a pretty good choice. I'll give a bit more thought to this conundrum!

Regards,

Mollinary
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: mollinary on 15 January 2012, 03:57:38 PM
Oops!

Always check figures before applying fingers to keyboard.  The Pendraken Russian Dragoons are not wearing a coat, just the waistcoat!  That said, a quick look at the lovely Austrian Dragoon figures shows that the sword position carefully hides the lapel question, and that the shabraque has a nice curved end, and so fits the Hanoverian Horse regiments very well.  You just need to give some thought to command groups, as no drummers, and standards rather than guidons.  Nothing ever simple, eh!

Mollinary
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: Derbo on 15 January 2012, 05:36:14 PM

Thanks a lot!
I´ll try the Prussian Dragoons for the Hanoverian Dragoons and use the British Dragoons for Hanoverian Horse, as both have no Lapels. I just have to cut or file away the right shoulder knot.
Think that´s gonna work.
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: maciek on 16 January 2012, 09:52:55 AM
I dont think that British Dragoons would fit, as they have large pouch/cartridge box resembling more WSS dragoons, than any SYW cavalry.
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: Hertsblue on 16 January 2012, 10:28:41 AM
Actually, Niemeyer & Ortenburg depict Hanoverian dragoons with a large cartouch box slung on a broad bandolier over the left shoulder. The reiters have the same bandolier, but without the cartouch-box. The main problem with the reiters, as others have pointed out, is their long coats with no lapels.
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: maciek on 16 January 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 16 January 2012, 10:28:41 AM
Actually, Niemeyer & Ortenburg depict Hanoverian dragoons with a large cartouch box slung on a broad bandolier over the left shoulder. The reiters have the same bandolier, but without the cartouch-box. The main problem with the reiters, as others have pointed out, is their long coats with no lapels.
So, the British dragoons for Hanowerian dragoons seems to be better choice. But still no good figures for Hanoverian heavy horse.
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: mollinary on 16 January 2012, 06:05:04 PM
Hi Maciek,

What do you think of the Austrian Dragoon option for the Hanoverian Horse other ranks?  Have I missed something?

Regards,

Andrew
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: maciek on 17 January 2012, 08:42:49 AM
Molinary. I'm not an expert in SYW, so far.
Austrian Dragoon have lapels while Hanoverian Horse did not. Remowing it is no problem for me, but many people expect "ready to paint" figures.
Maybe adding a pack of Hanowerian Horse to the SYW line would be a good choice ... ?
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: Derbo on 17 January 2012, 08:20:46 PM

Thanks for all the replies! I´ll consider some options.
At the moment, there is enough infantry on my table, so I´ve a couple of weeks before I need to decide anything.
If the perfect soliution comes to someones mind, please share :)
Title: Re: SYW: Some questions regarding choice of miniatures
Post by: mollinary on 17 January 2012, 08:58:30 PM
Maciek,

Agreed, but my point was that the Austrian Dragoon figure in the Pendraken line has his sword in such a position that you cannot tell (or at least I can't) whether he has lapels or not.

Mollinary