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Title: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 12 January 2012, 08:50:20 AM
Leon,

Any plans to add these to the range or blank D6 to make your own?
Used in rulesets such as BKC & IABSM.
Can only find them from GW in a reasonably priced set or hideously expensive singles in an online store!

Nigel
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 January 2012, 09:02:11 AM
The Wargames Unlimited way is cool, roll a d10 for scatter distance, the direction the top of the dice points is the direction of scatter...
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 12 January 2012, 09:06:13 AM
I have seen that suggestion elsewhere and will use in the interim but would like the correct item.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 09:24:38 AM
I have a d10 with no numbers on it, just a triangle on each face, sorry cant for the life of me remember where I got it. Thats my scatter die of choice.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 12 January 2012, 09:42:13 AM
Gordon, quick search has revealed EM4 sell blank D10's as well as all the others and a directional dice set which is cheaper than I've seen before.
Still would like to know if they could be included in the Minibits range as it would be good to have a one-stop shop.
There are two distinct types I have seen btw, one has numbers and arrows on all 6 faces which suits BKC the other has 4 arrows and 2 hits which is suitable for IABSM (although the former will work as you can treat 5&6 as hits of course)
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: fred. on 12 January 2012, 05:17:07 PM
I'm sure I got a blank d6 from EM4 and put arrows on with permanent marker pen.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 06:08:46 PM
Yeah I was playing a mega-game of BKC last weekend, and the organisers were using GW scatter dice, it meant that my Nebelwerfer batteries (I had 3 batteries of them) had a 1 in 3 chance of not scattering. Long story short, I stopped the para assault on the Ville de Canard pretty much just with those, 72 dice on every target under the huge Naval template, even needing 6s to hit, pretty much if it was under it, it died. Thats the reason that I'm not a fan of the GW one.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: OldenBUA on 12 January 2012, 06:41:27 PM
If you look real close, the 'Hit' on the GW scatter die also has a small arrowhead. So you could use that.

Another house-rule for BKC that I've used is to re-roll the scatter die when the 'Hit' comes up, but use one die less for distance. Only when you end up with zero distance dice will there be no scattering.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 07:55:36 PM
I know about the arrow but the umpires were classing that as "on target", great game though, 16 players, 4 umpires, an effective table size of 20ft x 16ft and more Pendraken kit in play than Dave and Leon take to a show. 
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: OldenBUA on 12 January 2012, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 07:55:36 PM
more Pendraken kit in play than Dave and Leon take to a show. 

Got any pics? We like pics.  :D
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 10:08:30 PM
Sorry, forgot to take my camera, but there were over 100 Shermans on table at once, I thought the Naval/Rocket template was bad until I saw the one on the next table, the Karl Morser one.  :o

I'll try to scrounge a few piccies on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Steve J on 13 January 2012, 11:21:29 AM
Photos would be good :).
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 13 January 2012, 12:43:29 PM
I've also found compass dice which are D8's marked with compass points which would also work.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: OldenBUA on 13 January 2012, 12:54:24 PM
Quote from: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 10:08:30 PM
I'll try to scrounge a few piccies on Saturday night.

:-bd
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: nikharwood on 13 January 2012, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: OldenBUA on 12 January 2012, 09:45:03 PM
Got any pics? We like pics.  :D

Hehehehe - I just read this & thought I'd posted... ;D

OldenBUA's right though, y'know... 8)
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: OldenBUA on 14 January 2012, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 10:08:30 PM
Sorry, forgot to take my camera, but there were over 100 Shermans on table at once

Why is it that things like that always seem to go together, anyway?

Is it a rule I've missed somehere? Something like:

"We will be organising a very big game this weekend, so please bring all your figures. But please leave your camera at home, since as you know, they aren't allowed at these kind of games."
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Nosher on 14 January 2012, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: GordonY on 12 January 2012, 07:55:36 PM
great game though, 16 players, 4 umpires, an effective table size of 20ft x 16ft and more Pendraken kit in play than Dave and Leon take to a show. 

And of course everyone knows its NOT the SIZE that's important....      Its the 15 stone banging it home :-[ :d :-[

Sorry, that's a post for the *other* forum I visit ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: sebigboss79 on 15 January 2012, 10:56:26 AM
and I thought Nik was bad....

No Totty pics for you guys! MINIATURES only  :d
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 16 January 2012, 09:03:01 AM
I'm guessing that Leon doesn't plan to add these to the range or he can't work out what the thread is actually about as the usual suspects have dragged it down to their level.  ;)
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: stormrider on 16 January 2012, 10:16:32 AM
You could always ditch scatter dice altogether and play spin the bottle? Guess it depends who you're playing with though eh? lol
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: goat major on 16 January 2012, 11:40:27 AM
It's time to get this thread back on-topic i think

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D60h6a8IdmU/TQSjXGKtGNI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/aZqQ8SH5uis/s1600/sexytable+girl.jpg)
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 16 January 2012, 12:01:22 PM
Near enough for me!  :)
Can't quite make out which one is a scatter die, and I've looked very closely.  ;)
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: sebigboss79 on 16 January 2012, 03:55:02 PM
I think the idea was to spin the lady... Nik?
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: nikharwood on 16 January 2012, 08:17:01 PM
Spinning ladies eh?

(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2007/10/09/va1237271192947/Spinning-lady-5693171.gif)

The Right Brain vs Left Brain test ... do you see the dancer turning clockwise or anti-clockwise?

If clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa.

"Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise though you can try to focus and change the direction; see if you can do it.

LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses logic
detail oriented
facts rule
words and language
present and past
math and science
can comprehend
knowing
acknowledges
order/pattern perception
knows object name
reality based
forms strategies
practical
safe

RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and images


present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (i.e. meaning)
believes
appreciates
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy based
presents possibilities
impetuous
risk taking"


Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 January 2012, 08:19:57 PM
Clockwise
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: goat major on 16 January 2012, 08:20:57 PM
Hmmm just makes me think about Tales of the Unexpected  :-\
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Dazza on 16 January 2012, 08:29:09 PM
back on track........................


(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/iofoto/iofoto0712/iofoto071200877/2189189-topless-caucasian-woman-covering-chest-with-fuzzy-dice.jpg)


damn they wont scatter  :-\

Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 January 2012, 10:30:57 PM
 =O :-bd
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Leon on 17 January 2012, 01:54:58 AM
Quote from: NTM on 16 January 2012, 09:03:01 AM
I'm guessing that Leon doesn't plan to add these to the range or he can't work out what the thread is actually about as the usual suspects have dragged it down to their level.  ;)

So it's just a dice with arrows on it?  I'm sure I can sort something out if that's the case.

Quote from: nikharwood on 16 January 2012, 08:17:01 PM
Spinning ladies eh?

If clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa.

Mine spins clockwise, but I've got all the attributes for a left handed brain person?! 

:-\
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 17 January 2012, 08:41:48 AM
Quote from: Leon on 17 January 2012, 01:54:58 AM
So it's just a dice with arrows on it?  I'm sure I can sort something out if that's the case.


Two different types Leon, one with arrows on all 6 faces the other 4 arrows and 2 hits.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: GordonY on 17 January 2012, 08:57:13 AM
For those of you crying out for piccies, Andy has kindly provided a link

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4477.0

Now go there and try to curb your envy.

Gordon

Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: OldenBUA on 17 January 2012, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: GordonY on 17 January 2012, 08:57:13 AM
For those of you crying out for piccies, Andy has kindly provided a link

I thought as much. Looks like a very nice setup. Do you know if there are any piccies from when the game was in full swing?
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: GordonY on 17 January 2012, 01:38:27 PM
I'm sure that the "Meenester fae Dundee" was snapping away throughout the game with his iPhone, but they havent surfaced yet.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: Leon on 17 January 2012, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: NTM on 17 January 2012, 08:41:48 AM
Two different types Leon, one with arrows on all 6 faces the other 4 arrows and 2 hits.

Ah right, I've not seen them before, and Dave didn't know what they were either!
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: NTM on 17 January 2012, 04:08:28 PM
It was only when I got BKCII that I heard of them, have been getting by without so far but as IABSM3 uses them too thought I'd look in to getting the proper kit.
Title: Re: Scatter Dice
Post by: DanJ on 17 February 2012, 11:58:40 AM
Failing a scatter die you can use a D12 to determine direction with each number refering to a clock face.

If you only have D6s (and if you have what sort of gamer are you?) then roll 2D6 of different colours the first is 1-3 then take the number on the second dice as a clockface number between 1 and 6, if the first dice is 4-6 then take the second dice number as being between 7 and 12 on a clockface.

If you've only got a digital watch or want more granualrity you're on your own.