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Title: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 16 November 2011, 02:19:43 PM
Hello, guys !
Next question in my Neverending Pendraken WSS Quiz:
Name the unit shown on the photo below.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BJY6WG5e9U0/Trbj45Y7HwI/AAAAAAAAANU/WkUk3jte3lw/s1600/50019-1.jpg)

More pictures (or more hints) on my blog http://zealandbayonets.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: GordonY on 16 November 2011, 03:33:28 PM
Ermmm, some unit of donkey-wallopers?
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: goat major on 16 November 2011, 03:39:18 PM
hints, hints, where are the the hints ?!  ;)
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 November 2011, 04:03:10 PM
I shall call it... Donald!
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 16 November 2011, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: goat major on 16 November 2011, 03:39:18 PM
hints, hints, where are the the hints ?!  ;)
On the photos  :)
I see at least two ...
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: goat major on 16 November 2011, 09:47:14 PM
Blimey - more cryptic than Dusty Bin ! :)

You need to do some AWI ones I might have half a chance on them :)
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Shecky on 17 November 2011, 10:45:16 PM
Something from the house of wittlesbach in the service of Spain?
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Shecky on 18 November 2011, 04:09:14 AM
Forget what I said earlier...
Is it the Risbourg Dragoons?
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 18 November 2011, 08:23:52 AM
Quote from: Shecky on 18 November 2011, 04:09:14 AM
Is it the Risbourg Dragoons?

no
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Leon on 18 November 2011, 08:49:04 AM
I'm doing my best using Kronoskaf, so I'll throw a few guesses out there!

Spain - Brigada de Carabineros Reales?

Scrap that!

Borbon cavalry?!

:-SS
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Leon on 18 November 2011, 08:54:15 AM
Bah, that's not it.  The saddlecloths are throwing me now...   :(
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Shecky on 18 November 2011, 05:42:07 PM
Is it the Valansart dragoons"?
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 18 November 2011, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: Shecky on 18 November 2011, 05:42:07 PM
Is it the Valansart dragoons"?
No.
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Shecky on 18 November 2011, 08:31:21 PM
Are they dragoons?  :)
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 18 November 2011, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: Shecky on 18 November 2011, 08:31:21 PM
Are they dragoons?  :)
I can't say. But if you examine the photos carefully, you will easilly find the answer  ;)
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: goat major on 18 November 2011, 10:21:00 PM
Can I just interrupt the mass scratching of heads to observe that these are beautifully painted figures . The horses are particularly impressive.
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Grenadier on 20 November 2011, 04:00:07 AM
I've been out of town for a few days and come home to see a challenge! Finally, some others with responses, I like to see that. OK, lets see, first I look at the standard. Hmmm, red lion rampant on a blue shield?  Surely it's not Scottish. Nope. Castile has a red lion but the castles are missing. This is tough! Knowing Macieck it is OBSCURE. Luxembourg has a rampant red lion but I'm not aware of any contingent units during the WSS. I will offer up the vague guess of a unit of dragoons from one of the many members of the Palatinate as the Palatinate flag has one member(i don't know who) with a rampant red lion.
I got nothin' else.
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 20 November 2011, 08:51:03 AM
Hmmm ...
When selecting photos for the blog, I tried no to show to much, beacuse I considered this question easy. Much easier than the previous ...
But maybe I made it to difficult, so I added two more photos to the blog. Hope it helps.

http://zealandbayonets.blogspot.com/2011/11/quiz-6.html
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: OldenBUA on 20 November 2011, 12:23:40 PM
Not my period, and I don't have my 'Lexicon der Heraldik' handy. But what you have on the flag seems a red-white striped lion, otherwise known as a 'Bunter Löwe'. Since the first stripe is red, rather than white, it would be the symbol of Thüringen (otherwise it would be Hessen).  No idea on the unit, but everybody says dragoons, so I'll say some unit of dragoons from Thüringen.

Or maybe it is Hessen, since Thüringen doesn't seem to be involved, but Hessen is?
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Grenadier on 21 November 2011, 12:34:41 AM
Well, now that I see a magnified view of the standard and with a big assist from OldenBUA, I dub thee,  Erbprinz Dragoon regiment of Hessen-Kassel which had a part in the storming of the Schellenberg on 2nd July, 1704.
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 21 November 2011, 08:01:58 AM
QuoteI dub thee,  Erbprinz Dragoon regiment of Hessen-Kassel which had a part in the storming of the Schellenberg on 2nd July, 1704.
Yes, yes, yes.  :)

And now, short tutorial, how to get it:

1. Red and white striped lion = Hesse-Kassel (although I must admit that somehow, top, white stripe didn't appear on printed flag)

2. Drummer = dragoons

3. Googling: "hesse kassel" army "spanish succession" gives these results:
http://www.google.pl/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=pl&source=hp&q=%22hesse+kassel%22+army+%22spanish+succession%22&pbx=1&oq=%22hesse+kassel%22+army+%22spanish+succession%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=17121l18006l8l19093l5l5l0l0l0l4l369l1517l0.1.0.4l5l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=44db097b10a64216&biw=1680&bih=889

on the first place, one can find:
http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/salmon/224/Hesse/hessewss.html

There are only two Hessian dragoon regiments listed.
regt. Aurochs looks like this: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/salmon/224/Hesse/hesse4.html
regt. Erbprinz looks like this: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/salmon/224/Hesse/hesse5.html

So, the right answer is: Hessian dragoon regiment Erbprinz  :)

Once again, congratulations for Grenadier.
With five points he is firmly in the lead. I hope, he will like the prize  ;)
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Shecky on 22 November 2011, 07:16:53 PM
Dang. I was this  >:< close.
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 23 November 2011, 04:13:50 PM
As it took a bit longer than previously to find the right answer, there is no another quiz today.
I added some text to prevous blog post instead, including the unit description and changes I've made to figures.
All can be seen here: http://zealandbayonets.blogspot.com/2011/11/dragoni-erbprinz-von-hessen-dragoons.html
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: Grenadier on 23 November 2011, 04:53:59 PM
 Very nice Maciek! I do, indeed, like the variety you are able to attain, and first rate painting, too.  I have been very unproductive the last few months as well as being distracted by the Napoleonic period.  Well, no more. My heart lies with the early 18th century and so I will focus my attention to it. I've downloaded Musatfa's promising "Maurice Lite" to read over the holiday, now, if I can settle in on figure scale. I do love 10mm but 6mm has great appeal and a certain visual grandeur.
BTW, I gain most of my quiz victories by consulting C.S.Grant's "From Pike to Shot 1685-1720". It's weakness is lack of flags, though and that's where my Hall/Schoor CD's and the web help. I try to let others have a whack at it first but then I MUST have a go. Depending upon how many quizes you hold, maybe someone will catch me? If not I really look forward to those flags. ;)
  To Leon-please, can we have a basic WSS/GNW marching pose for musketeers and grenadiers similar to the Wargames Factory guy? Don't make me wait for Magister's! :'(
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: sixsideddice on 23 November 2011, 05:52:49 PM
hehe, nice quiz....  and the miniatures are excellent sir   :-bd



Six
Title: Re: Pendraken WSS quiz #6
Post by: maciek on 24 November 2011, 10:16:31 AM
Grenadier - do it in 10 mm. Especially if you got so many informations about uniforms.
I also considered 6mm, but the scale difference is dramatic. In 10mm you can recreate uniform of specific units, in 6mm it would be rather "redcoats agains bluecoats" game.