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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Sunray on 05 November 2011, 04:30:18 PM

Title: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Sunray on 05 November 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Am I right in stating there is a shortage of bridges in 10mm scale ? My son unearthed some lenths of Bellona river at a car boot sale, I began to draw a template for the table that would use river and bridges . Not just N gauge type railway structures, but rustic  double arch road bridges....and pontoons! - Can we have an image of PS12 please ? You can have a great game around a pontoon bridge scanario

A quick look at Timecast shows some very nice rustic single span models,(paint up well as Cotswold stone for VBCW) and Hovels have a bargin basement in 1/200 at £3.
Any other models worth considering?

Sunray out
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: fred. on 05 November 2011, 05:04:21 PM
Ps12 is an old style wooden pontoon bridge, not a metal Bailey Bridge - its OK

Bridges are fairly scale agnostic - I have picked up various bridges over from different places, including a HO scale railway bridge, which looks fine in 10mm. many bridges sold as 10mm are actually rather small and look like little bridges over streams on the battlefield.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Steve J on 05 November 2011, 06:19:34 PM
I have an old Airfix HO/OO metal girder bridge that looks fine for 10mm. I can get two Panthers side by side with room to spare, so looks good to me.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: lentulus on 05 November 2011, 11:01:30 PM
There's reasonable choices out there for stone arch bridges; I use N -scale RR bridges for moderns.  Pontoons and bridge sections for the various armies of wwII would be nice.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 06 November 2011, 02:27:45 AM
Hi James/Sunray

Further to my pm, I came across some 1/144 stuff that might fit your needs.

It's on eBay at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-144-CGD-Country-Bridge-Diorama-/270708780210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07802cb2 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-144-CGD-Country-Bridge-Diorama-/270708780210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07802cb2)(http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/Accessories/CountryBridge/CBridgeFull02.jpg),
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-144-Unpainted-CGD-Pontoon-Bridge-Starter-Kit-/170467432666?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b0a698da (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-144-Unpainted-CGD-Pontoon-Bridge-Starter-Kit-/170467432666?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b0a698da)
(http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/Accessories/BridgeSystem/Pontoon/PontoonParts.JPG)

The seller has flat rate postage so if you can find other things you like it might make the cost and postage seem more reasonable, like the flak piece or town ruins.

(http://www.combatgroupdynamix.com/Diorama/WargameSeries/Armour/2cmflakvierling/Flakvierling02.jpg).

These are all apparently done by Shapeways in 3d printing.

There's also this one:-

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/0/5/7/7/webimg/273138483_tp.jpg)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-144-12mm-10mm-Pontoon-Bridge-White-Metal-PS-12-/120653394378?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item1c1780b1ca (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-144-12mm-10mm-Pontoon-Bridge-White-Metal-PS-12-/120653394378?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item1c1780b1ca)

Cheers

Vic/GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Sunray on 06 November 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Many thanks for all the images and info - but a Bailey in 10mm ! Now that woul be something.  If I make that an official request to Leon, will anyone second the motion?

Sunray Out
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Leon on 07 November 2011, 03:56:13 AM
I've actually had another chap asking about bridges recently, so it's something I'm hoping to have a look at over the Xmas period I think.

That last pic is of our PS12 Bridge, 1-144th Direct sells our stuff on eBay.

Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: lentulus on 07 November 2011, 12:30:57 PM
I'll buy some bailey bridges, but don't forget that other country's bridging kit could be quite different, so consider a couple of choices. 

Also, I know the lighter German bridges (at least) had special trailers for the pontoons. That sort of kit for the pioneers building the bridge would be good to indicate that they are at work (depending on one's rules).

Finally, remember that a bridge section with pontoons could also be a ferry.

Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Sunray on 07 November 2011, 07:59:03 PM
I'll bet the image will now get you some direct sales - always good to cut out the middle man.  And yes, good point about the German stuff.  I have seen images of large rubber dingy type boats being used to carry light bridges....and being used as ferries - especially for recon motorcycle combo units.   I think Skytrex carries them in 15mm ?

Sunray out
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: fred. on 07 November 2011, 08:01:54 PM
The photo above of PS12 is different to the pontoon bridge I got from Pendraken

The one I have is resin (this one looks like metal) and the boats were shallower - is their a second bridge in the range?
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Sunray on 07 November 2011, 08:11:35 PM
Good question Fred, the bridge in the image looks like whitemetal, not resin. Will pass to Leon.

Sunray out
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Leon on 07 November 2011, 08:22:31 PM
We changed it over to the metal version a couple of years back, as the resin mould broke, and the metal one looked better.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: fred. on 07 November 2011, 09:11:49 PM
Hadn't realised it was that long ago!

The metal one does look good, and I will order when on my next order - especially as it is only £3.25 from PD rather than £7 on ebay!!!
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Leon on 07 November 2011, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: fred12df on 07 November 2011, 09:11:49 PM
especially as it is only £3.25 from PD rather than £7 on ebay!!!

:o  Wow, that's some mark-up...  he's got quite a few of our resin items on there as well.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Sunray on 08 November 2011, 04:10:37 PM
Like I always say Leon - get some images of these excellent products on the site, and watch the orders roll in.

I will be ordering one for my December order.


Sunray out.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: GordonY on 08 November 2011, 04:26:16 PM
Yeah I have mentioned this guys markup before, does seem a little cheeky, but to be honest, he has gone to all the work of taking a piccy and listing it on e-bay.

If you do a bit of looking around on there you'll find quite a few of the buy-it-now crowd are doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: Sunray on 11 November 2011, 07:35:55 PM
Be good to store this image - if any other future threads raise the topic, we can always paste it back up.
Reminds me, time for that November Pendraken order to beat that Christmas rush

Sunray out
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: lentulus on 06 May 2012, 02:29:40 AM
A question - how many sections/pontoons in a PS12 set?  And how far does it span?
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: fred. on 06 May 2012, 07:42:25 AM
4 pontoons
2 planked sections, about 9-10 cm in total length

The pontoons are quite nice, the bridge is a bit basic.

Be aware that there are no ramp sections, I guess it is expected to put the bridge on a sunken river
Title: Re: Pontoon and other Bridges
Post by: lentulus on 07 May 2012, 01:09:33 PM
Thanks, that is what I needed to know.