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Title: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 24 September 2011, 09:23:55 PM
Right - ultra-fast paint job for these, replicating some tricks I used years ago to do my 40k Ash Wastes Imperial Guard army  :)

From black undercoat, heavy overbrush Charred Brown:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42496.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42497.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42498.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42499.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42500.jpg)

Overbrush infantry figures & bases with Beasty Brown:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42501.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42503.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42504.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42505.jpg)

Total elapsed time = 15 minutes
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 24 September 2011, 09:26:49 PM
Then - everything stippled White using sponge:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42506.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42507.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42508.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42509.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42512.jpg)

Wash everything - very thin Cold Grey & detail wash - very thin Field Grey (Green/Grey); flesh painted Elf Fleshtone:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42523.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42524.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42525.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42526.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42527.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42529.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42530.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42531.jpg)

Total elapsed time = 45 minutes
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Blaker on 24 September 2011, 09:30:42 PM
Once again Nik, WOW   :o
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 24 September 2011, 09:32:31 PM
Decals added - wash detail very thin White; weapon detail Cold Grey:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42532.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42533.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42534.jpg)

'Magic' Wash - everything:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42535.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42536.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42537.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42538.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42539.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42540.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42541.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42542.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42543.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42544.jpg)

Total elapsed time = 65 minutes
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 24 September 2011, 09:36:35 PM
Snow mix onto bases:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42545.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42546.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42547.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42548.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42549.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42551.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42552.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42553.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42554.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42555.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42556.jpg)

Total elapsed time = 90 minutes  8)

On-table:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww2%20germans%20stalingrad/STA42559.jpg)

More on-table pics here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3844.0
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Blaker on 24 September 2011, 09:49:07 PM
A whole hour + do to these beauties  :o   Great job Nik!

Okay a few questions:

Did you glue minis to bases then do the terrain?

What did you use for the ground cover, sand, spackle?

What snow did you use?

Where did you get the cool decals?

Wish there wasnt this big hole filled with lots of water between us, I would like to visit and watch you work one day.  Maybe you could do a live film of you painting an army.
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 September 2011, 10:29:22 PM
OH I GIVE UP!












;) nice one

(In the same time I've picked, destemmed and crushed 12 kilos of grapes from my vines for Maisin Denham 2011, not bad for Bedfordshire UK!)
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Blaker on 25 September 2011, 01:21:49 AM
 ;D   ;D   meee =O  tooo  =O =O
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Leon on 25 September 2011, 04:55:48 AM
Right, I officially could not have even cast the bleeding figures in that amount of time...  :o  :D
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 25 September 2011, 07:05:14 AM
Told you I was gonna do these fast  <)

Quote from: Blaker on 24 September 2011, 09:49:07 PM
Okay a few questions:

Did you glue minis to bases then do the terrain?

What did you use for the ground cover, sand, spackle?

What snow did you use?

Where did you get the cool decals?

Right:
- yes all minis glued to bases before texturing
- texture on bases for these was a mix of PVA: filler / spackle: sand: water at about 4: 3: 2: 1 ratio
- snow is a mix: PVA: Woodlands Scenics Snow: water at about 4: 4: 2 ratio - brushed, shoved, poked & cajoled onto bases & then while it's still wet, it gets another dusting of snow from a height...leave to dry...
- decals are from Perrin [the tank crosses] which I've had for ever - but Pendraken's got some too [here: http://pendraken.co.uk/PNDC2-p5505/ ] and the swastika flags are Pendraken too [here: http://pendraken.co.uk/PNDC3-p5506/ ]

Quote from: Blaker on 24 September 2011, 09:49:07 PM
Maybe you could do a live film of you painting an army.

I have thought about that - trouble is that, although these only took 90 minutes in total, with kids, dogs, horses, some marking etc that 90 minutes was spread from about 7.30am to 8pm!

Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 September 2011, 10:29:22 PM
OH I GIVE UP!
;) nice one

(In the same time I've picked, destemmed and crushed 12 kilos of grapes from my vines for Maisin Denham 2011, not bad for Bedfordshire UK!)

Speed-painting is almost entirely a mindset & confidence thing - with some basic tips to cut corners...which reminds me, I was going to write something about that...

And Maison Denham eh? Like the sound of that

Quote from: Leon on 25 September 2011, 04:55:48 AM
Right, I officially could not have even cast the bleeding figures in that amount of time...  :o  :D

:D
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Steve J on 25 September 2011, 07:48:03 AM
Impressive as always Nik. I agree that the mindset thing is very important as it is no use trying to paint anything unless you are in the right frame of mind.
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: T13A on 25 September 2011, 08:58:44 AM
Nic

Really nice! I'm sure you must have some sort of TARDIS over in Dunster.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Luddite on 25 September 2011, 11:00:58 AM
Masterful work as ever Nik, espically as a lesson in speed painting.

However, and i hesitate to swim against the praising tide  :-[, but for me, the white stippling technique doesn't work that well. 
Also i've not yet seen a 'snow base' done well.  I'm not sure they work, especially full snow like yours here.
That said, for tabletop-standard super-fast painting this is pretty much an object lesson for us all!   :D
As Leon says, he can't cast the stuff this fast  :o ;D !!!

My churlish niggles are just personal preferences though, and i no way meant to detract from the usual, sickeningly justified (bitterly envious?  Me?!), awestruck worship of the masterworks you consistently churn out.   :D  Hehe...
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Raider4 on 25 September 2011, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 September 2011, 10:29:22 PM
OH I GIVE UP!
Heh, I know what you mean.

These should probably say to everyone "Hey, look how simple this is!". I just end up thinking "Oh what's the ****ing point. I'll never get stuff to look this good in a week. And this bloke does it in under two hours  :-< ".

To Nik - these are brilliant. Really. They look really, really good.

Cheers, Martyn
--

Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 25 September 2011, 10:01:53 PM
Quote from: T13A on 25 September 2011, 08:58:44 AM
Nic

Really nice! I'm sure you must have some sort of TARDIS over in Dunster.

Cheers Paul

If only...as long as it came with Amy Pond  ;)

Quote from: Luddite on 25 September 2011, 11:00:58 AM
However, and i hesitate to swim against the praising tide  :-[, but for me, the white stippling technique doesn't work that well.  
Also i've not yet seen a 'snow base' done well.  I'm not sure they work, especially full snow like yours here.

No worries mate - these are heavily stylized and won't be to everyone's taste...I'm looking at them and thinking that maybe I should have painted them 'properly' - but I did want to make them look old & cold & grainy as well as getting them battle-ready superfast as Real Life is frantic at the moment...

As for the snow, I think it looked better before I sprinkled extra into the top of the wet mix...

Quote from: Raider4 on 25 September 2011, 06:10:14 PM
These should probably say to everyone "Hey, look how simple this is!". I just end up thinking "Oh what's the ****ing point. I'll never get stuff to look this good in a week. And this bloke does it in under two hours  :-< ".

To Nik - these are brilliant. Really. They look really, really good.

Cheers, Martyn
--

Thanks Martyn - I hope you look at them again & think that it can be this simple!
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Pruneau on 26 September 2011, 05:17:14 AM
Great job with these, I'm gonna adopt a few of these techniques, coz fast = good.  And they look great! Spasiba!


Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Sevej on 27 September 2011, 09:25:56 AM
This... this is nuts...  :-X
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: Hertsblue on 27 September 2011, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 25 September 2011, 10:01:53 PM

No worries mate - these are heavily stylized and won't be to everyone's taste...I'm looking at them and thinking that maybe I should have painted them 'properly'

Nah - first instincts are usually right. As someone once said to me - you can paint for accuracy or paint for effect; and the latter is usually the better option.  :-bd
Title: Re: WW2 Germans - Stalingrad: Ultra-fast painting
Post by: nikharwood on 27 September 2011, 09:21:05 PM
Quote from: Pruneau on 26 September 2011, 05:17:14 AM
Spasiba!

You're welcome Rudy [& I'm going to use that word more in everyday life  8) ]

Quote from: Hertsblue on 27 September 2011, 08:14:42 PM
Nah - first instincts are usually right. As someone once said to me - you can paint for accuracy or paint for effect; and the latter is usually the better option.  :-bd

Good point - and now that I've made a start on the Russkies I'm happy with my decision to do them like this because I just want to get them fighting ASAP  :)

Quote from: Sevej on 27 September 2011, 09:25:56 AM
This... this is nuts...  :-X

I'm taking that as a compliment - thanks Sevej  8-} :-bd 8-}