quite interesting
http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=H-War&month=1109&week=b&msg=xVCwCp3mHCyZxFYbSV0EYA (http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=H-War&month=1109&week=b&msg=xVCwCp3mHCyZxFYbSV0EYA)
Certainly is very sensible.