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Title: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 04 September 2011, 01:02:19 PM
Has anyone any photographs of painted British and Russian figures?

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Bernie on 05 September 2011, 07:18:55 PM
Hi Chad

Doing a Crimean battle this Saturday so will do a few pics and put them on the forum

Bernie
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: nikharwood on 05 September 2011, 09:22:11 PM
Excellent - I really enjoy gaming the Crimea, but at the moment can only do it in 2mm - which looks great for seriously massed effect, but I'd like to see it in 10mm  8)
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 September 2011, 10:09:46 PM
The original Volley & Bayonet rules ghad a great sceanrio for the Alma...
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leon on 06 September 2011, 03:36:29 AM
Quote from: Bernie on 05 September 2011, 07:18:55 PM
Doing a Crimean battle this Saturday so will do a few pics and put them on the forum

Is that at Colours?  I'll pop along and have a look if so.
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 06 September 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Bernie

Appreciate it.

Thinking of using Black Powder for rules at moment.

Chad

Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Bernie on 06 September 2011, 06:52:24 PM
Hi Leon

No Crimean game will be in Dover! though will be at Colours on Sunday buying more stuff from Pendraken!!

Bernie
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leon on 06 September 2011, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Bernie on 06 September 2011, 06:52:24 PM
No Crimean game will be in Dover! though will be at Colours on Sunday buying more stuff from Pendraken!!

Ah right, that's where I was getting confused, cos I've got an order here for you!
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Bernie on 11 September 2011, 07:31:09 PM
Hi

See attached link to photobucket for Crimean game of the battle of the Alma played this weekend. I have also done some pics of units to show Pendraken range for Chad and others who might be interested in this neglected period

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/BernardGanley/Crimean%20War/

Bernie
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Shedman on 11 September 2011, 08:33:59 PM
Lovely - the British Guards look excellent

Which figures did you use for the French?

What rules did you use - Fire & Furia?
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 11 September 2011, 08:37:32 PM
Bernie

Thanks. Look good. Pity the Guards are in greatcoats, would have been even better.

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 September 2011, 09:16:11 PM
Those are superb!
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: fred. on 11 September 2011, 09:32:44 PM
Excellent looking game and figures. Really has an epic feel to it.
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leon on 12 September 2011, 12:27:57 AM
Excellent, thanks for posting!  8)
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Bernie on 12 September 2011, 07:11:33 AM
Hi

Did not mind the Guards in the greatcoats so much as having the highlanders in their porkpie hats rather than bonnets which made for a less imposing figure. Still it is a very nice range and so much better value than Magister Miletum's which was used for the odd units not covered in Dave's range.

The French were my Franco-Prussians from Dave's original French 1870 range, as the Crimean French range is too limited at the moment - so have to live without them in their natty frock coats.

Rules are home grown - a variation of "To the Last Gaitor Button"/"Trapped like a Fox" rules as it can handle 80+ battalions that were committed at the Alma and yet play the game in 3-4 hours.

We will be doing another outing of the system at the Legion III show in East Kent in a month's time so will do some more pics then. We will hope to do the Alma and Balaclava battles.

Bernie
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 12 September 2011, 12:36:01 PM
Bernie

I think it's a shame that ranges are not complete in some way or another. A partial range means either we don't do it all, go to another manufacturer to fill gaps or if there is not one available put in requests in the hope that others will support that request (often to no effect).

The Crimea is an option I am considering instead of 1859 (which is what I really want to do  :'(   ), but if I do I will have to go to MM simply for Guards without Bearskins.  :(

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leman on 12 September 2011, 02:42:25 PM
Do you mean guards without greatcoats?
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 12 September 2011, 03:42:57 PM
Yes.

The illustration on the website and Bernie's pics. show greatcoat. That probabaly fits Inkerman, but not the Alma.

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Bernie on 12 September 2011, 07:50:01 PM
Hi Chad

Well you can always do BOTH 1859 & Crimea.

My journey started with the 1866 period and thus armies from Austria Prussia, Italiy and the German states. Then it was to 1870 and only needed to add the French for yet another period. Then it was the Ruskies and British for the Crimea as already had the French and Sardinians (yep I know coats are anarchronistic).
So we can now fight 1859 Franco-Sardinians v Austrians and also what-ifs such as Victoria was a Victor and thus an Anglo-Hanoverian army can face off Bismarck and his terrible Prusisians in 1866 or indeed a Battle of Dorking Anglo-German bash/or an Anglo-French tiff. It really is a cracking 30 year period where almost any European power can fight one another
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 12 September 2011, 09:05:58 PM
Bernie

What are you using for command figures for the 1859 French Voltigeurs of the Guard? The new figures don't have any command figures.

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Shedman on 12 September 2011, 10:48:39 PM
Good point Chad - the FPW Command don't look right with the Voltigeurs

A command pack for the Voltiguers would be very useful because then I could also use them for Algeria in the 1830/40s and the Crimea

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_prise_de_Constantine_1837_par_Horace_Vernet.jpg or http://legion.l.e.pic.centerblog.net/ni20cw1g.jpg
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 13 September 2011, 07:49:16 AM
I made a request for command figures but it seemed to fall on stony ground.  :(

This is why my 1859 plans are on hold.

A remodelled Austrian in fantry figure in Kittel would be good as well. There have been several requests, but again to no effect.

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leman on 13 September 2011, 07:09:49 PM
I've looked at paintings of the storming of the Malakoff by French troops in the Crimea and I can't see any discernible difference from the 1870 troops.
DP
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 13 September 2011, 08:26:23 PM
DP

The prints I've seen clearly show the Voltigeurs in Shakos.

www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101674

About 3/4 prints down.

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: nikharwood on 13 September 2011, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: Bernie on 11 September 2011, 07:31:09 PM
See attached link to photobucket for Crimean game of the battle of the Alma played this weekend. I have also done some pics of units to show Pendraken range for Chad and others who might be interested in this neglected period

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc461/BernardGanley/Crimean%20War/

Nice pics Bernie - thanks for posting; you've blended your bases with your table nicely  8)

I might well blame you at some point for causing me to add to my lead pile... ;)
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leman on 14 September 2011, 02:16:42 PM
Hi Chad, those voltiguers look like the Guard Voltiguers. I looked hard but could only see officers in kepis.
DP
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 14 September 2011, 03:54:15 PM
DP

I do not have a problem with an officer in a kepi, but I assume that drummers/standard bearers would be uniformed as Voltigeurs. Still leaves me with the problem.  :-X

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leman on 14 September 2011, 09:51:21 PM
I think standard bearers were officers, they certainly were in 1870. As for drummers - looks like it's greenstuff time again!
DP
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 15 September 2011, 08:01:51 AM
DP

Found another print on the net last night which clearly shows an officer in shako. Back where I started!  :(

Chad
Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Chad on 15 September 2011, 07:39:47 PM
DP

Print attached

Chad


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Title: Re: Crimean War
Post by: Leman on 24 September 2011, 05:37:50 PM
How about - BANG! "Zut alors! Zat pesky Russian 'as shot off my nice shiney, new shako! Now I must go bare'eaded!" - craft knife and greenstuff time again. ;D