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Title: Malplaquet - Schulenburg's command
Post by: Chad on 01 September 2011, 09:39:23 AM
Not sure if I have posted this on the forum. If so apologies for duplication, if not hope it is useful.

The information is from 'Maps of War' by Ashley & Miles Bayton-Williams and the map in question appears to be taken from a copper engraving by Paul Rapin de Thoyras in the mid 1740s. I have not looked into this person as yet. I cross-referenced the information on the map to the OOBs contained in 'The Battle of Malplaquet' by Maurice Sautai (recently published by George Nafziger). These OOB are from June 1709 apparently from Austro-Hungarian Imperial War Archives. This book by the way contains a map of the dispositions of all the French infantry units and as such is well worth the buy in my opinion.

OK now to the information so far. These are the battalions of the first line shown on the map comprising Schulenburg's command attacking the Bois
de Sars. They are listed from right to left facing the wood. The comments are my own from attempting to clarify the information.

Thugen - Listed in Sautai as Imperial. Have located Regt.Thungen in Imperial information I have, so assume it is that regt.
Baden - Listed in Sautai as Imperial. Also located in Imperial info.
Hessian Grenadiers - Listed in Sautai.
Erbefeld - Listed as Munster in Sautai
Cauagnac (Cavagnac?) - Unable to identify this battalion
Caris - Listed as Walloon in Sautai
Hercules - Closest match in Sautai is a Holstein battalion Heruilles
Wurtemburg - Not listed in Sautai, but my info. suggests there is an Imperial unit of this name. Could also be the Wurtemburg Guard Grenadiers listed in Sautai.
Wilke - Closest match in Sautai is the Hessian Battalion Wilckens
Saxon Guard - Listed in Sautai
Fuhnen - Not listed in Sautai. I believe this may be the Danish battalion Fynske. Google suggests Fuhnen is the early name for the Fyn Island.
Danish Guards - Listed in Sautai.

I have now completed the examination of the 2nd line units. Before listing the information I have, I can update the 1st line data.

Hercules - Isuggested that this could be Heruilles, but while looking for information on 2nd line units, I found that a Holstein regiment referred to was commanded by a person with the surname Hercules.

Cavagnac - Again while looking for information I found an Ansbach Regiment commanded by Moritz von Cavanach. Apparently he may not have become its commander until 1711, but the coincidence would point to this regiment.

Now for the 2nd line, again reading right to left facing the wood.

Thungen - Presumably the 2nd battalion of the regiment listed in the 1st line. Sautai only list 1 battalion, however.
Lubeck (Palatinate) - Listed in Sautai
Isselbach (Palatinate) - Not listed in Sautai.
Wolfenbuttel (Wolfenbuttel) - Listed in Sautai as Erbprinz von Wulfenbuttel
Castel (Ansbach) - Listed in Sautai
Hermann (Wurtemburg) - Listed in Sautai as 'Hormans'
Exter (Hessian) - Listed in Sautai as Exeter. I think this is possibly the
Hesse-Kassel Regiment Exterde
Baumbach (Hessian) - Listed in Sautai
Furstenburg (Saxon ) - Listed in Sautai
Collr Pr. - Have not been able to identify this unit. The abbreviation 'Pr' may signify 'Prince'. The next two units are
Danish which may point to it being a Danish regiment.
Bielke (Danish) - Listed in Sautai
Oldenburg (Danish) - Not listed in Sautai, but present at Oudenarde
I have now completed the analysis of the 3rd line of Schulenburg's infantry and the results, again reading from right to left facing the wood, are:

Bade (Imperial) - In Sautai but only 1 battalion listed. Possibly a second battalion
Dahlberg (Imperial) - InSautai
Taston (or Tastung) (Wurzburg) - Not in Sautai
Saxe-Meiningen (Palatinate) - In Sautai
Stolebasch (Palatinate) - In Sautai as Stultzbach
Beveren (Wolfenbuttel) - In Sautai
Feloh - Sautai list a regt Flohr (Mecklenburg-Schwerin). Bit of a stretch, but I have found nothing closer in name
Dolsuperche (Walloon) - In Sautai
Prinz Maximillian (Hesse-Kassel) 2 btns - Not in Sautai
Stuckradt (hessian) - In Sautai
Sternfels (Wurtemmburg) - In Sautai
Wackerbarth (Saxon) - In Sautai
Ogilvy (Saxon) - In Sautai
Boisset (Danish) - In Sautai as Boisact
Schwartzel (Danish) - In Sautai

Well that's it. Hope this has been of use. As I indicated before the map has other dispositions but only by brigade commanders. If any one would be interested in those let me know

Chad
Title: Re: Malplaquet - Schulenburg's command
Post by: Chad on 02 September 2011, 07:49:21 AM
If anyone would like the information on the French infantry at Malplaquet, I will extract it from the Sautai publication over the weekend.

Chad
Title: Re: Malplaquet - Schulenburg's command
Post by: Chad on 03 September 2011, 07:01:25 PM
This is the list of French regiments from the Sautai booklet:

1. In the Bois de Sars
    Provence - 2 btns
    Bretagne - 2 btns
    Saintonge - 2 Btns
    Le Roi - 4 Btns
    Charost - 2 Btns
    Sparre - 2 Btns
    La Sarre - 1 Btn
    Royal-la-Marine - 2 Btns
    Boufflers - 1 Btn
    La Reine - 3 Btns

2. Left Wing (behind the Bois de Sars)
    Poitu - 2 Btns
    Chartres - 2 Btns
    Guyenne - 2 Btns
    Tourville - 2 Btns
    Perrin - 2 Btns
    Croy - 2 Btns
    Luxembourg - 2 Btns
    Greder Allemand - 2 Btns
    Gondrin - 2 Btns

3. Between the Bois de Sars and the Bois de Laniere (from left to right facing the Allied army)
    Bearn - 2 Btns
    Champagne - 3 Btns
    Louvigny - 2 Btns
    Isenghien - 1 Btn
    Lee - 1 Btn
    Dorrington - 1 Btn
    O'Donnel - 1 Btn
    O'Brien - 1 Btn
    Galmoy - 1 Btn
    Cologne Guards - 2 Btns (behind the Irish Btns)
    Bavarian Guards - 2 Btns (behind the Irish Btns)
    Gardes Suisses - 2 Btns
    Gardes Francaises - 4 Btns
    Deslandes - 1 Btn
    Royal Roussillon - 2 Btns
    Picardie - 3 Btns
    Lannoy - 2 Btns
    Alsace - 4 Btns
    (These are followed by the Right wing 20 gun battery)
    Brendle - 3 Btns (to the rear of the battery)
    May - 3 Btns (to the rear of the battery)
    Greder Suisse - 2 Btns (to the rear of the battery)
    Royal - 3 Btns
    Royal Italien - 1 Btn
    Boulonnais - 2 Btns
    Bourgogne - 2 Btns
    Piedmont - 3 Btns
    Bourbonnais - 2 Btns
    Mortemart - 2 Btns
    Navarre - 3 Btns
    Lorraine - 2 Btns
    Nice - 1 Btn

3. In the Bois de Laniere
    Tourainne - 2 Btns
    La Fere - 2 Btns
    Montroux - 1 Btn
    Agenois - 2 Btns
    Perche - 2 Btns
    Foix - 2 Btns
    Santerre - 2 Btns
    La Marck - 2 Btns
    Chateauneuf - 1 Btn
    Grenadiers - 1 Btn

I have scanned the diagram of the positions in 2 parts, but both pdfs are to large to attach. If someone can tell me how to get them onto the forum I will gladly do so.

Hope the above is of use.

Chad
       
Title: Re: Malplaquet - Schulenburg's command
Post by: Leon on 04 September 2011, 06:38:40 AM
Thanks for posting this info, much appreciated.

With the scans, there's a couple of options (as long as they're not copyrighted at all?).  You could save the scans as an image in jpeg format, and then either pop them onto something like Photobucket, or upload them direct to the Forum.  If they can't be converted from pdf, you could always email them to me at the Pendraken email, and I'll sort them for you.
Title: Re: Malplaquet - Schulenburg's command
Post by: Chad on 04 September 2011, 07:35:30 AM
Leon

Thanks. The work is copyrighted.

This is the link to the booklet which is available from Caliver for £15.99.

http://www.caliverbooks.com/bookview.php?13df30d4f829e09ec7f6d5202ab2fe7d&id=13048&subcatcode=D&subcatno=27

I recommend it.

Chad