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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Pruneau on 22 August 2011, 09:16:33 PM

Title: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: Pruneau on 22 August 2011, 09:16:33 PM
Hi Folks, I'm looking at getting some more late Germans for my crisis demo:

I am recreating the counterattack SW of Carentan, where the 2nd Btn of the 101st got under severe pressure from remnants of the 6th FSJ (I have those) with support from elements from the 17th Pz Gren Div, mainly 37 Reg and 17 Pz Btn.

What troops do I take for those SS?  Can I use regular troops uniform-wise?  And for the officers?

Anyone made late SS for Normandy?
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: lentulus on 22 August 2011, 10:56:28 PM
I can't think of any you would avoid (except perhaps the early war, which I have not seen).  Most of the difference comes out in the camouflage colors which is purely a paint exercise.
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: nikharwood on 23 August 2011, 08:28:31 AM
Here you are Rudy - this is a commission I did for someone a few years ago who was planning pretty much the same thing I think:

http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/w/page/7825420/BKC%20commission%20German%20paras

As lentulus says, it's in the painting really.
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: NTM on 23 August 2011, 10:02:10 AM
I agree paint job is all the 'conversion' needed. Early war figures will work too, you'd be surprised how many german soldiers were still wearing jackboots in 1944. One thing to avoid is Panzerfausts 17SSPGD is documented as not having them in the early part of Normandy, can't recall exactly when they did but it is definately after your scenario time frame. Will have to check on Panzerschrecks.

http://home.swipnet.se/normandy/gerob/pzdiv/17sspgdiv.html
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: Pruneau on 24 August 2011, 07:22:00 PM
Excellent guys, thanks for the info!
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: Pruneau on 25 August 2011, 08:07:43 PM
For my demo I'm doing the Carentan counterattack, on the German side that means some 17th SSPG and some 6FSJ Paras.  So, I was just wondering, the German para's are in camo outfits as well: how do I paint the difference between Erbsenmuster and Eichenblattmuster?  ;)
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: nikharwood on 25 August 2011, 08:26:09 PM
Quote from: Pruneau on 25 August 2011, 08:07:43 PM
how do I paint the difference between Erbsenmuster and Eichenblattmuster?  ;)

Carefully?  :P ;) ;D
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 August 2011, 09:00:03 AM
The answer is yes, and just do it impressionist.......

ie dont bother too much.

IanS
Title: Re: 17th SS Pz Gren Div
Post by: Pruneau on 02 September 2011, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 25 August 2011, 08:26:09 PM
Carefully?  :P ;) ;D

OK, this weekend I'm getting some professional help in an experiment: I have gotten an old toothbrush and a bit of mesh, and using inks my daughter is gonna try the old kindergarten splatter technique on a few squads.  I'll tell you how it goes :)