Hi everybody:
I have been painting miniatures to play the Russian Civil War for a while, and now I have enough to fight small battles between Red and White forces.
Here you have some pics:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z50/Natxo_photos/Guerra%20Civil%20Rusa/RCWMarkIV10mm1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z50/Natxo_photos/Guerra%20Civil%20Rusa/RCWCaballeraBlancos10mm1.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z50/Natxo_photos/Guerra%20Civil%20Rusa/RCWMarinosRojos1.jpg)
I´m sorry for the size of the pics.
What figures are the sailors?
The sailors are from the WWI range, the German sailors for East Africa.
The leader is from that set and the standard bearer is just a sailor with the rifled cut and a banner pole made of wire.
Excellent - this is intriguing really - I can remember being fascinated by the RCW during history lessons many years ago - but haven't really thought of gaming it...do you have any decent sources / suggestions for where to start? What OOB are you using / rules?
Hmm... 8)
Suspect that Nik has a shiny new project.
Gordon
sweet!
QuoteSuspect that Nik has a shiny new project.
Oh - I've
always got
plenty of those... 8)
nice figures :D
Well, sorry for such a delay.
As a source for Russian Civil War I must recommend Red Victory, by W. Bruce Lincoln. It is a very easy to read and full of ideas for scenarios.
I started thinking in this period due to Perfect Captain,s RED ACTIONS, and now I´m using a version of Blitzkrieg Commander.
Quote from: Natxo on 21 February 2011, 05:53:03 PM
Well, sorry for such a delay.
As a source for Russian Civil War I must recommend Red Victory, by W. Bruce Lincoln. It is a very easy to read and full of ideas for scenarios.
I started thinking in this period due to Perfect Captain,s RED ACTIONS, and now I´m using a version of Blitzkrieg Commander.
Excellent - if you've got any notes for your BKC version, I'd really appreciated a copy: that's what I'd use to game it. This one is on my to-do list for next year, so I should start thinking about it now :)
Check out the pics on the link below. You know you want to game this period ;).
http://warandgame.com/2009/06/12/russian-civil-war-the-reds-the-blacks-the-greens/
Well...that didn't help ;) ;D
This just moved up onto my 2011 to-do list :-[
Remember, they can also be used as part of the Chinese Civil War and AVBCW at a push :).
Stop. Please. You're killing me here ;D :o :d
Well, ever after seeing a mini-series about Nestor Makhno, it something I'd wanted to do. Cavalry, tachanka's and a black flag with 'Svobodo nai Smert', 'Freedom or Death'. Tell me what wargamer can resist this. With my painting speed though, I'd be lucky to get it done in time for the 100-year anniversary of the major events...
Sorry that I have not answered anybody. :(
I can send my version of BKC, but I must say that after testing it, RED ACTIONS is best suited to this period.
There is a new film, about Admiral Kolchak, called The Admiral. Very good.
Tales of Sub-Lieutenant Ilyin is a good read, the memoirs of Red Navy leader Fyodor Raskalnikov. Several tales of heroism on his part, ignore his own hype but some good ideas for scenarios.
Lovely figures. RCW has proved a big hit with me and at some stage I want to do something with that Boer War armoured train.
For those of you who are interested, I will be in Omsk next month on the usual summer visit to the in laws with wife and kids in tow. If anybody wants I will get some pictures of the buildings from the Revolutionary period.
Omsk was the Imperial capital for a while, Admiral Kolchak (supreme ruler of white forces I think) was there and there was soem fighting between white forces, cossacks, red forces and czechoslovak legion troops in the city.
Let me know if you want and I will see what I can dig up.
Anything you could put up on the forum about the RCW would be very welcome.
Just thought I'd put this up because
- I've been using a fragment for my avatar, so maybe people would like to see the whole image
- I quite like the picture, as it's very atmosferic
- And I'm trying to figure out how to post from photobucket!
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u26/OldenBUA/Other%20stuff/P8190973_zpsf54e295e.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/OldenBUA/media/Other%20stuff/P8190973_zpsf54e295e.jpg.html)
Quote from: OldenBUA on 16 June 2013, 07:56:25 PM
- And I'm trying to figure out how to post from photobucket!
Very easy, OBUA. Click on "insert image". Go to Photobucket and navigate to the photo you wish to post. Find the "Direct" option in the panel on the right. Click on the box beside it. Return to the forum and paste between the "Img""/Img" references. All done. Simples!
Quote from: Hertsblue on 16 June 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Very easy, OBUA. Click on "insert image". Go to Photobucket and navigate to the photo you wish to post. Find the "Direct" option in the panel on the right. Click on the box beside it. Return to the forum and paste between the "Img""/Img" references. All done. Simples!
Not how I did it, but it worked anyway! Full details in another post... ;)
But yes, clicking the IMG link on the right hand side will also work (and it's simpler, so thanks for that). No need for extra IMG tags, though, as they are already included...
Quote from: Natxo on 10 June 2013, 04:56:26 AM
I can send my version of BKC, but I must say that after testing it, RED ACTIONS is best suited to this period.
I based my RCW figures for BKCII but I must agree that Red Actions works better.
Come on Olden, give us the low down. I'm having absolutely no luck posting from photobucket and I've got RCW Whites to show.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 21 June 2013, 09:38:36 PM
Come on Olden, give us the low down. I'm having absolutely no luck posting from photobucket and I've got RCW Whites to show.
I think you're doing quite well now? Or are you still having problems? A lot of that could be due to using a Mac notebook, which I frankly know next to nothing about.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 21 June 2013, 09:38:36 PM
I've got RCW Whites to show.
Bring on your Whites, and I'll get my Makhnovites ready!
Well, sometime in my lifetime, I hope.
Sorry, no subtitles, and no, I don't understand much of it neither!
I enjoyed that - very inspiring. Wonder if Amazon have it in the world cinema section as I don't mind reading subtitles.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 22 June 2013, 02:45:41 PM
I enjoyed that - very inspiring. Wonder if Amazon have it in the world cinema section as I don't mind reading subtitles.
Not much chance of finding it with subtitles, I'm afraid. You'd have to find a version made for the international market, and I don't think there's enough interest for that, so there aren't any. Happens a lot with Russian films/mini-series.
Some very inspiring stuff there :). Shame it's not subtitled though :(.
Not subtitled? Oh Nizhny Novgorod!!!
Right then, more stuff. This is the film/series that was mentioned before about Admiral Kolchak. The second clip has subtitles, but you probably have to go to youtube to watch it. Anyway, this one you can buy on DVD with subtitles.
Pah! try a bit of old school soviet cinema!! CHAPAEV!!!!!
haha! My favourite joke of the soviet times. A Pioneer trip visits the red army museum in moscow and one Pioneer spots a skeleton in a case and asks the curator who it is and the curator says "its great hero of soviet union, marshal chapaev". In the next case along there is a smaller skeleton. Another Pioneer asks who that one is and the curator says...
"its marshal chapaev as a child". Ha! You see, its 2 skeletons of the same person.
Anyway, I have not forgotten to take the pictures of the old part of the town. The outskirts were destroyed long ago, but I have got the 3 main trade buildings, the college, kolchaks headquarters and the theatre. This was the russian capital under Kolchak for a while and when the city was liberated from the white czarist forces there was quite a bit of fighting here around the buildings I took pictures of. As soon as I get home I will get them loaded up.
'when the city was liberated from the white czarist forces '
Ah, those nice Chekists 'liberated' the city, how the inhabitants must have rejoiced.
Quote from: freddy326 on 23 June 2013, 08:26:29 AM
Pah! try a bit of old school soviet cinema!! CHAPAEV!!!!!
Stalinist sh*t from beginning to end.
What would be a good read for general knowlegde on the RCW ? :)
Quote from: cameronian on 17 July 2013, 08:35:45 PM
'when the city was liberated from the white czarist forces '
Ah, those nice Chekists 'liberated' the city, how the inhabitants must have rejoiced.
funnily enough, here they were quite happy about the whites being shoved out of town. When you look at the main street you can see the wealth this city had. Well, the rich merchants anyway. This was the location of the state fair of 1911 or 1910 I think, when companies from Britain took part. But a vast majority of the people here, still lived in wooden shacks, had no water and many had been "invited" to Omsk by the Czarist security services. This is the location of one of the logest parts of czarist death march that can still be seen. Imperial enemies were sent here long before the communists took over.
Also, during Kolchaks time, the city witnessed an extremely tight security situation, where mass hangings of the population took place. Its very interesting to see even now comments from Cameronian above and how Kolchak still divides this nation here. Many Russians a very clear on life under communism. They lived it. I had some time living in a communist country too. Not Brilliant. But they don't look at the time of Kolchak with any great fondness either. The film created a lot of political and social difficulties when it was released.
But anyway, I will put the pictures up as discussed and you can get the modelling knives out... or not.
Quote from: HPFlashman on 17 July 2013, 11:31:00 PM
What would be a good read for general knowlegde on the RCW ? :)
I'm currently reading the Osprey 'Essential Histories' on the RCW. It gives you the who, where and when, and if nothing else, a select bibliography of further reading.
Quote from: cameronian on 17 July 2013, 08:37:57 PM
Stalinist sh*t from beginning to end.
not really Stalinist, but it does tow the Bolshevik line. The film was based on a novel written by a commissar who fought with Chapaev and I was comparing it to 'The Admiral',
but I do enjoy reading thoughtful and well reasoned comments such as yours!
The Chapaev film also spawned a whole load of jokes, such as this
'On the occasion of an anniversary of the October Revolution, Furmanov gives a political lecture to the rank and file: "...And now we are on our glorious way to the shining horizons of Communism!"
"How did it go?", Chapaev asks Petka afterwards. "Exciting!... But unclear. What the hell is a horizon?"
"See Petka, it is a line you may see far away in the steppe when the weather is good. And it's a tricky one -- no matter how long you ride towards it, you'll never reach it. You'll only wear down your horse."'
but I think you need to be Russian to really appreciate them! By the way Furmanov was the commissar mentioned earlier who wrote the novel and Petka is Chapaev's aide-de-camp
Quote from: HPFlashman on 17 July 2013, 11:31:00 PM
What would be a good read for general knowlegde on the RCW ? :)
The Osprey gives a good basic overview. both of the following will give a much more in depth view
Orlando Figes, A People's Tragedy
Evan Mawdsley, The Russian Civil War