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Pendraken Releases, Requests and Photos! => Requests => Topic started by: maciek on 29 March 2010, 12:50:44 PM

Title: League of Augsburg
Post by: maciek on 29 March 2010, 12:50:44 PM
I think, Pendraken's LoA needs remodelling up to standards of WSS, or preferably - AWI.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: clibinarium on 29 March 2010, 02:00:37 PM
Funny you should say that....
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: Leon on 29 March 2010, 04:34:37 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: Nicofig on 29 March 2010, 06:57:49 PM
I totally agree. I would like this range but ... :o
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: Chad on 20 April 2010, 02:15:28 PM
Any news on the re-modelling? i would be very interested

Chad
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: Leon on 20 April 2010, 04:36:26 PM
I think Clib's working on the dollies at the moment.
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Post by: clibinarium on 20 April 2010, 08:42:58 PM
Confirmed.
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Post by: nikharwood on 20 April 2010, 09:18:00 PM
...which is going to make this range a must-buy then  8)
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: clibinarium on 20 April 2010, 11:17:12 PM
Lets see how they turn out first!

;)
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Post by: Fenton on 20 April 2010, 11:33:50 PM
Yup I would be interested in this range...always fancied doing the Battle of the Boyne on a huge scale
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: clibinarium on 05 May 2010, 04:29:55 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 20 April 2010, 11:33:50 PM
Yup I would be interested in this range...always fancied doing the Battle of the Boyne on a huge scale

You can take the man out of Ulster, but you can't take...
;)

First batch of dollies in transit to Pendraken HQ
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: Leon on 05 May 2010, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 05 May 2010, 04:29:55 PM
You can take the man out of Ulster, but you can't take...
;)

First batch of dollies in transit to Pendraken HQ

Woohoo!  Excellent news, I'll keep an eye out for them!
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: nikharwood on 06 May 2010, 05:50:06 PM
Excellent - good news  8)
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: lentulus on 07 May 2010, 06:29:46 PM
Oh Good! 

http://www.histori.ca/minutes/minute.do?id=10129

Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: maciek on 10 May 2010, 06:58:45 PM
 :) :) :)
I knew it.
When will you release first packs, and when could we see any photos of figures.

BTW
It would be great to know full list of items to be released. Even without detailed schedule.
It would help with planning our works.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: Leon on 10 May 2010, 07:19:13 PM
Quote from: maciek on 10 May 2010, 06:58:45 PM
:) :) :)
I knew it.
When will you release first packs, and when could we see any photos of figures.

BTW
It would be great to know full list of items to be released. Even without detailed schedule.
It would help with planning our works.

No release dates yet.  Clib has sent us the dollies, which we have moulded up and will send back to him.  Then he will start on the master figures.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: maciek on 11 May 2010, 06:20:58 AM
...and what is the dolly,
and explain me, please the process of making figures.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: clibinarium on 11 May 2010, 10:24:24 AM
No dates and no lists; neither have been made up yet! But at the least everything in the current list will be replaced, and probably more added. Infantry will be the first release, cavalry dollies are still being worked upon.

A dolly is simply a partially sculpted figure, usually the body without arms. These are cast up and the sculptor then adds hats arms weapons etc . Without them I would not be able to put variant figures in my work, as it would take too long to sculpt figures from scratch each time. Also for weapons and hats its great to have standardisation across a range. Complex items like muskets and especially drums are a nightmare to do , so doing them only once is a plus!
Here's a pic of one of the first AWI packs, its easier to see the process at work as I was still using grennstuff back then;
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/clibinarium/AWI/10mmAwi011.jpg)

Its a process that adds time and cost to a project, but I feel the results are worth it. I am sure I have tried Dave's patience in the past with fiddly little bits a pieces, and early on I had some hare-brained ideas; I sent him semi-shaped blobs of putty to cast, the idea being I could file the metal down to get stuff like swords. It did work but was so impractical it was abandoned swiftly. Dave was too polite not to humour me.

You can see this in lots of pre-release figures in various scale. I didn't realise this was possible until I saw the "workbench" section of the perries website.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: maciek on 11 May 2010, 10:54:39 AM
Thanks.
Does it mean that, on the photo above, muskets were cast separately and are glued to the figures ?
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: clibinarium on 11 May 2010, 11:05:04 AM
On these particular figures the muskets and left arm were cast as part of the dollies, as they would all be in the same position, same goes for the marching figures. The firing figures, since they would need muskets in different poistions had the muskets added later.
Title: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: clibinarium on 14 May 2010, 10:52:43 PM
Got the LoA dolly figures back from Pendraken today (that was quick!) and couldn't resist doing a couple of test figures. To be honest is was as much about avoiding the work I have currently since I am bored with it, as it was about the LoA!

Its a musketeer with apostels and a grenadier. Bear in mind these are only teasers, it will take a while to do a whole range, since there'll probably be about 4 variants per pack. These guys are totally complete yet eiither, for instance I might lengthen the grenadier's coat at the front.
Please forgive the crappy photographs; its late and I didn't have time to set up properly.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/clibinarium/Greens/CHEWKS069.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g303/clibinarium/Greens/CHEWKS070.jpg)
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: Leon on 14 May 2010, 11:51:55 PM
Excellent stuff, thanks for posting Clib!  I'll tell Dave to come and have a look tomorrow.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: nikharwood on 15 May 2010, 07:52:23 AM
Is it just me that's not seeing any pics?  ???
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Post by: Martyn on 15 May 2010, 08:09:17 AM
I can't see any photos either.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: nikharwood on 15 May 2010, 08:10:40 AM
I've got it now...looking good clib!  8)
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Post by: mollinary on 15 May 2010, 09:04:58 AM
Oh WOW, just love that hat!  I can feel another new collection coming on..........

Mollinary
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: maciek on 15 May 2010, 09:49:39 AM
Excellent !
Tell me please, how many different sets you plan.
Here we have musketeer with apostles and grenadier.
And how about musketer with cartridge box ?
And cavalry ? Armoured, unarmoured, in hats or helmets ?
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: clibinarium on 16 May 2010, 03:57:32 PM
Plans aren't specific yet, but the types you mention will all be done. Cavalry will be a while away yet.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: jchaos79 on 16 May 2010, 06:46:16 PM
love the head gear !!
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: maciek on 17 May 2010, 09:27:45 AM
The only thing I dont like in these figures are buttons (buttonholes ?) on cuffs.
Why dont you make normal buttons ? Some would like to paint them.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: clibinarium on 17 May 2010, 10:56:24 AM
I don't do button holes because I haven't been able to find a suitably small tube to press them with. They'd be extremely small.
In any event most people won't want to paint them and if they are raised they become an impediment which look nasty if not painted. Its easier to leave holes that can be left black to suggest buttons.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: maciek on 17 May 2010, 12:30:17 PM
Quotemost people won't want to paint them
bloody democracy ...

...
So maybe it's better to leave it flat - without buttons or holes.
This way, willing will apply buttons on their own - with small drop of glue.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg Teaser
Post by: Chad on 20 May 2010, 04:31:21 PM
Already saving for these!

Chad
Title: League of Augsburg.
Post by: YORSTONS on 02 June 2010, 08:54:02 AM
Following on from the previous post about the forthcoming range, will there be diffrent poses for each pack? I am thinking infantry firing, standing and kneeling and pikemen with pikes at various angles. Also diffrent officers and ensigns. Having been inspired by the work of the Leauge of Augsburg in various magazines and through the Under the Lilly Banners rules and the Mark Allen articles in WI i think i could really get into this period.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg.
Post by: Leon on 02 June 2010, 04:05:24 PM
Yep, I think there's gonna be 3-4 poses per pack?
Title: Re: League of Augsburg.
Post by: clibinarium on 02 June 2010, 09:19:04 PM
Yes 3 to 4 poses will be fairly standard to each pack, in a few cases there will be more. Firing infantry packs will have men in varoius poses, but not kneeling. Pikemen will all have their pikes upright as angling them causes basing problems.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg.
Post by: YORSTONS on 03 June 2010, 11:52:09 AM
Ok, re the pikemen any chance of having them open handed so you could have diffrent poses without the basing problems? Then let us add the pikes seperatly.
Title: League of Augsburg.
Post by: YORSTONS on 04 August 2010, 02:50:17 PM
Hi Leon,

When did you say the new LOA range was due out?
Title: Re: League of Augsburg.
Post by: Leon on 08 August 2010, 04:08:34 PM
I'm sure I've seen this thread before somewhere!  We're looking before the end of the year I think.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: irregularwars on 12 August 2010, 10:48:12 PM
Hi, I just wanted to add my voice and say how keen I am to see these guys out. Never been interested in 10mm before but these are just such great looking sculpts and such a good period!

And that's my two cents worth....
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: clibinarium on 08 September 2010, 11:52:03 PM
Don't ask about the figures, they are being worked on  :-$ but I found this today. I've no real interest in the FoG rules, but I like the art work;


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51iVvShalgL._SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: lentulus on 09 September 2010, 12:11:45 AM
Its an interesting period - do keep in mind there was a new world component.
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: SV52 on 09 September 2010, 09:32:56 AM
Have a look at 'Beneath the Lily Banners', a set of rules specifically written for the period:

http://www.rebelpublishing.net/content/BLB_Review.pdf

Very promising, I might get to fight Bothwell Brig yet!
Title: Re: League of Augsburg
Post by: SV52 on 09 September 2010, 11:41:45 AM
BTW are Monmouth rebels in civies included in the new range, as the ECW peasants don't quite hack it?