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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: lekw on 05 July 2011, 06:14:42 AM

Title: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: lekw on 05 July 2011, 06:14:42 AM
Was wondering if any specific packs are in the pipeline? I think I can use the WWI Italians but was just wondering if specific packs were in the works. Also has anyone painted CTV in 10mm what figures and colors did you use for early war? I have found references for grey green, kaki, british brown, light green and tan. Any thoughts.
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: lekw on 07 July 2011, 04:55:29 AM
Okay guess nobody is doing Italians in their Spanish Civil War armies  :(
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 07 July 2011, 05:46:21 AM
Hello lekw

I am not currently doing CTV myself but I saw your sad face and I did a trawl through the posts and found these:-

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2810.0 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2810.0)
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1970.0 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1970.0)
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3007.0 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3007.0)

The above deal with CTV, and also troops wearing Fez.

I did find this on http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=168780 (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=168780) about uniform colours.


"one important thing I remember is that while not totally inaccurate the winter uniform colour shown on the plates looks a bit too close to WW2 Italian Grey-green. Some CTV troops did wear some uniforms like this, especially at the end of the campaign, but mostly the winter weight uniform was khaki-olive, stocks of the Old Italian Army winter tropical uniforms which were being phased out at the time the CTV was sent to Spain. I think many thousands of suits of these uniforms were also passed to the Nationalist army."

I think you could get by with various 'proxies' wearing adrian helmet or fez, and go for a khaki-olive colour or a mixture of all the colours you mention.

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6397/entradadelasfuerzasnacirp4.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: Sunray on 07 July 2011, 01:11:52 PM
Hi Lewk

The source I based my painting on was Opsrey Men-at-Arms No 74.  The Italians are depicted in basically their WW2 kit. and New Italian helmet  Uniform -Humbrol 237 will do nicely and a faded green for web. Officers in sahariana and dark green trousers.

The Opsrey publication as the details

Sunray out
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: Steve J on 07 July 2011, 03:15:20 PM
I thought that Leon mentioned that the CTV would be part of forthcoming SCW releases. For my part I use the FoW guide to painting Italian forces, with some in green and others in the blue summer fatigues. That way some can be regulars, fascist militia etc.
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: Leon on 07 July 2011, 04:48:43 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 07 July 2011, 03:15:20 PM
I thought that Leon mentioned that the CTV would be part of forthcoming SCW releases. For my part I use the FoW guide to painting Italian forces, with some in green and others in the blue summer fatigues. That way some can be regulars, fascist militia etc.

They were planned, and I've had quite a few requests for them, but they seem to have fallen off the radar somewhat.  I'll make a note to have another look at this.
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: lekw on 07 July 2011, 08:55:31 PM
thanks so much everyone. I think the WWI Italians will work fine for SCW. I would like early war kit and my understanding is they should be painted tan light brown not olive grey.
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: lekw on 07 July 2011, 09:02:20 PM
"one important thing I remember is that while not totally inaccurate the winter uniform colour shown on the plates looks a bit too close to WW2 Italian Grey-green. Some CTV troops did wear some uniforms like this, especially at the end of the campaign, but mostly the winter weight uniform was khaki-olive, stocks of the Old Italian Army winter tropical uniforms which were being phased out at the time the CTV was sent to Spain. I think many thousands of suits of these uniforms were also passed to the Nationalist army."

Yes this is what I uncovered as well. I do not love mixing colors so will probably go with British uniform or just khaki. Problem is they will look alot like my Republicans.
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: Sunray on 08 July 2011, 09:15:08 AM
lekw

In the Opsrey colour plates the shade of the Italian uniform is not much different from the Nationalist Army of Africa - very light shade of "khaki" [sic]  indeed  - you could use Humbrol 95 when you 'lighten to scale'.   A world of difference from the dark Republican khaki

Sunray out
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: lekw on 09 July 2011, 05:54:53 AM
Thanks, great idea Sunray.
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: Sunray on 09 July 2011, 08:04:03 AM
No bother, sent us some eye candy photos for the forum when you get them painted and based.  Sunray out
Title: Re: Spanish Civil War CTV
Post by: lekw on 09 July 2011, 07:51:14 PM
Will do I tend to stick whatever I paint on the blog. Some 10mm SCW should go up soon.

http://myblog-lekw.blogspot.com/