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Title: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: nikharwood on 01 July 2011, 08:25:35 PM
First BP supplement previewed: http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/preview-black-powder-last-argument-of-kings/
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: DFlynSqrl on 01 July 2011, 10:21:36 PM

That's really going to be hard to resist...bah, who am I trying to kid?  I'll probably buy it the first time I see it on the shelf.
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: zaapark on 01 July 2011, 10:26:54 PM
Was looking forward to an ECW supplement  :-\  Maybe that is next on the list.
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Nosher on 01 July 2011, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: zaapark on 01 July 2011, 10:26:54 PM
Was looking forward to an ECW supplement  :-\  Maybe that is next on the list.

Ditto :(
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: NTM on 02 July 2011, 06:56:55 PM
Pike & Shotte will be a stand ruleset alone not a supplement.
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Sandinista on 02 July 2011, 11:57:33 PM
Quote from: NTM on 02 July 2011, 06:56:55 PM
Pike & Shotte will be a stand ruleset alone not a supplement.
That is what I heard today at Bovington show
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: zaapark on 03 July 2011, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: Sandinista on 02 July 2011, 11:57:33 PM
That is what I heard today at Bovington show

Did anyone happen to mention a  release date for Black Powder ECW ?
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Sandinista on 03 July 2011, 11:12:10 PM
late next year i understand
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Last Hussar on 04 July 2011, 06:43:57 PM
Given we've done our own WSS one, I'd need to see something eyepopping or groundbreaking before I spend 130 figures on it.
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: republic of tolworth on 04 July 2011, 10:32:47 PM
Put like that makes me think, but I'm sure I will weaken :-[
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 July 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Well you sign up to do online surveys, Amazon and Waterstones vouchers to buy all  :D

IanS
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Last Hussar on 05 July 2011, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: republic of tolworth on 04 July 2011, 10:32:47 PM
Put like that makes me think, but I'm sure I will weaken :-[

I price everything in lead!  Thats 3-4 battalions for a supplement.
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 July 2011, 07:33:15 PM
Or a Division in my FPW!  ;D
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: freddy326 on 07 July 2011, 12:33:38 PM
I don't suppose anyone has managed to find out when the supplement is being released?
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Leon on 07 July 2011, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: freddy326 on 07 July 2011, 12:33:38 PM
I don't suppose anyone has managed to find out when the supplement is being released?

There's a news story on TMP today, but no dates mentioned.  :(

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/673666/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/673666/)
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: owaincaesarius on 07 July 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 05 July 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Well you sign up to do online surveys, Amazon and Waterstones vouchers to buy all  :D

IanS

Online surveys for book tokens? Tell me more!!

Graham
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 July 2011, 07:12:10 AM
Or Paypal or HMV or......

Try Toluna.com ? or valuedopinions for 2.

IanS
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: freddy326 on 08 July 2011, 09:50:54 AM
It seems it can be pre-ordered now off of the Warlord Games website!!
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: nikharwood on 08 July 2011, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: freddy326 on 08 July 2011, 09:50:54 AM
It seems it can be pre-ordered now off of the Warlord Games website!!

Hmm...£18...
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: jfariahitech on 12 July 2011, 10:17:44 PM
Oh no!!
I cant resist, another rules book to read, yesss!!  m/
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: nikharwood on 29 July 2011, 10:11:04 PM
Author's notes here: http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/12352/the-last-argument-of-kings-authors-notes/

Worth a read....the campaign [for Jacobite '45 rebellion] might be worth a look...


Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: republic of tolworth on 30 July 2011, 06:38:53 PM
My copy arrived today. 8) :D

Not had a chance to more than flick through it. Has a nice section on Ottomans and India along with some other useful bits.

Worth the money? Time will tell.
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Chad on 31 July 2011, 05:58:09 AM
My copy arrived yesterday.

Only got as far as page 26, the battle of Blenheim, when I read the following "Prince Eugene with his 20,000 Austrians...".

Oh dear, where did they come from?

I stopped there and don't know if I want to read any further.

Chad

:(
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: clibinarium on 03 August 2011, 04:01:26 PM
Got mine this morning. Certainly it looks very pretty. Good to see Pendraken sneaks in with a lovley French SYW army in practically the last photo in the book!
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: kustenjaeger on 03 August 2011, 08:21:16 PM
Greetings

Quote from: Chad on 31 July 2011, 05:58:09 AM
My copy arrived yesterday.

Only got as far as page 26, the battle of Blenheim, when I read the following "Prince Eugene with his 20,000 Austrians...".

Oh dear, where did they come from?

I stopped there and don't know if I want to read any further.

Chad

:(

Is the concern the numbers quoted or the fact that Eugene's army was labelled Austrian?

Regards

Edward
Title: Re: Black Powder: The Last Argument of Kings
Post by: Chad on 03 August 2011, 08:52:04 PM
The fact that Eugene's army is labelled Austrian. It is completely misleading for anyone intending to use these rules as a starter for WSS. It would have been more appropriate to have at least labelled Eugene's forces as 'Imperial' as a minimum.

Is this bad research by the author or could he not be bothered with accuracy?

Also the army lists dating from 1700 could give the impression from their rating that Hussars were both more prevalent and effective during the WSS than available information would have us believe.

Perhaps I expected more from the supplement

Chad