Please is there any chance of remodelling this range as I am considering creating 10mm armies, but at the moment your range of figures does not set me on fire. A range to match the existing 15mm at 10mm would be excellent.
Yours
Ironsides
That is interesting as it had the opposite effect on me, I am in the middle of a heavy investment in 10mm ECW inspired by the figures.
Yes, taste is a curious thing. Most of my ECW hosts are the old 12mm AIM figures now available from Caliver, but I love the new Pendraken TYW horse figures, which fit in perfectly with them. My generals, are all Old Glory, because they are really the only ones available, but I don't like their strip infantry and the cavalry and dragoons are rather small compared to AIM (although I have some hundreds of them unpainted!). The main thing that put me off the Pendraken were the Pikemen, who look like they are armed with a short spear. Love Pendraken 10mm SYW and Marlburian and 19th century, this range just doesn't do it for me. Chacun a son gout, as someone once said!
Mollinary
I'm with Ironside and Mollinary, I have the FOG rules and I have bought two starter armies. The rules are gathering dust on the book shelf and the figures are consigned to the huge pile of figures marked as shall I :-\
I mentioned a while ago that the cavalry in particular were lacking a little animation and the size difference between figure codes was noticable. The trouble is, we have been spoilt with the newer ranges with both the detail and variety. Perhaps a few tweaks could be achieved.
Bertie.
We need some of the other figures, nations, armies etc that nobody makes. EVERYONE makes ECW figures; it's the easiest pike and shot period to raise. Can't we first get some 16th and 17th century Chinese, Koreans, Burmese, the Japanese that everyone ignores, Aztecs, Cossacks....? Pretty please with sugar on top and black powder in an apostle beside the salt?
Don't mention the Aztecs :o
*sneaks away*
I can't see this one being done unfortunately, this range has always been one of our consistent sellers.
They look great painted up as well:
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But those pikes cannot be more than a scale 10-11 feet long, surely?
Mollinary
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/LOA11-p6174/
Quote from: mollinary on 13 June 2011, 08:16:14 AM
But those pikes cannot be more than a scale 10-11 feet long, surely?
Mollinary
During the civil war many troops hacked off a sizeable chunk off the foot of the pike to make it easier to carry (plus supplimenting the woodpile) so short is not too much of an issue for me
I second that; especially by 1644 the majority of Pike had been chopped down considerably, and the punishment for doing so had been waivered in most cases. Pendraken ECW pikes are thus actually realistically more accurate than the standard assumption of the long poled pike, which was being phased out fast between 1643-49
I vaguely remembered reading about cut down pikes but it was so long ago was not sure it it referred to the ECW or not.
Quote from: Sandinista on 13 June 2011, 11:01:31 AM
.... so short is not too much of an issue for me
It's his wife I feel sorry for.
We could maybe drill the pikes out of some of the figures and offer them empty handed?
Quote from: Leon on 13 June 2011, 04:11:40 PM
We could maybe drill the pikes out of some of the figures and offer them empty handed?
Noooo, I like them as they are
I wouldn't replace the current codes, but we could add them as alternatives at the end of the listings.
OK Guys, I hear what you say about cut down pikes..........but, if I recall correctly that is an extrapolation from a remark by Monck(??) on what a bad practice it was. I haven't seen any evidence as to how widespread the practice was, nor on how much was cut off, nor that it followed through into post war practice in the following decades. If anyone has such evidence I would be most interested in having a look. I know lots of stuff has been uncovered by keen re-enactors in local archives, but I haven't seen much published. But maybe I'm reading the wrong books? Leon, I wouldn't go to the trouble of open handed unless others share my concern, which on the evidence so far they dont! That said, as a general rule open handed figures do give you choice. Decisions decisions!
Mollinary
I am quite happy with the infantry as they are. But what about the mounted figures. Can we not have a more dynamic lobster pot figure with pistols and one with a sword. Same for the soft hat figure. It would also help classify troop types with the rules I would like to use.
What do you say Leon? not replace, but expand on a high selling range.
Bertie.
Quote from: Bertie on 14 June 2011, 07:44:09 PM
I am quite happy with the infantry as they are. But what about the mounted figures. Can we not have a more dynamic lobster pot figure with pistols and one with a sword. Same for the soft hat figure. It would also help classify troop types with the rules I would like to use.
What do you say Leon? not replace, but expand on a high selling range.
It's probably something we'd like to do at some point, but there's no timescales.
I wish to thank all those who have given "useful"suggestions.
Open handed figures would be good. Those in favour please say.
The cavalary I cannot accept in their present form, no animation about sums these figures up.
Lobster pot trotting with swords and pistols would be good.
Royalist cavalary charging with sword etc.
Ironsides
p.s. some personalities would be good too i.e. Rupert minus his dog.
I'm quite happy with mine as they are - I don't think that they're particularly un-animated: and once on the table I think they look great - have a look here:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=389.0
:)
Great work Nik fair do's they do look good.
But I still stand by what I said, Infantry no prblem at all. Mounted need some VIAGRA I thinking ;). Thought about using some 30 year war figures and perhaps cutting heads off. But when I see the League of Augsburg range, well I ask you :'(
Anyway Pendraken are still tops by me.
Bertie
Re my post of the 14th, that would be a"No" then as to whether anyone has any primary source evidence on how widespread cutting down of pikes was?
Mollinary
This quote in Haythornthwaites book (p.28) is from "Turner, Sir J. Pallas Armata - Military Essayes of the Ancient Grecian, Roman, and Modern Art of War - Written in the Years 1670 and 1671 (London, 1683) p.178. New York, Greenwood Press, 1968
"Turner noting that few exceed fifteen (feet)... many base soldiers will cut some off the length of that".
No more, but I'm looking...
Interesting that no evidence has come to light on this "practice" in eighteen months. A single reference from a source twenty five years after the war? And it still says "few exceed 15 ft in length", which is about 50% longer than the pikes on the existing Pendraken figures. I still think the balance should be, mould open handed figures, and let the customer decide! :D
Mollinary
Quote from: mollinary on 27 January 2013, 08:24:43 PM
Interesting that no evidence has come to light on this "practice" in eighteen months. A single reference from a source twenty five years after the war? And it still says "few exceed 15 ft in length", which is about 50% longer than the pikes on the existing Pendraken figures. I still think the balance should be, mould open handed figures, and let the customer decide! :D
Mollinary
The pikes we supply for the LoA and the Greeks are 30mm, so about right for 15ft in scale terms.
Fair to say that in eighteen months I have not looked as I am happy with figures as they are and will be buying more soon
Quote from: Sandinista on 25 June 2011, 04:10:53 PM
No more, but I'm looking...
So was that ironic, sarcastic, or rhetorical in some way? ;D ;D
Mollinary
EDIT: Quote fixed.
Quote from: Leon on 27 January 2013, 08:31:54 PM
The pikes we supply for the LoA and the Greeks are 30mm, so about right for 15ft in scale terms.
Agreed. With open handed figures they would work well, and could be cut into toothpicks or firewood at the whim of the individual! ;) ;)
Mollinary
Quote from: mollinary on 27 January 2013, 08:46:09 PM
So was that ironic, sarcastic, or rhetorical in some way? ;D ;D
wishful thinking :D