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Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Topic started by: Fenton on 27 May 2011, 08:19:27 PM

Title: Vajello washes
Post by: Fenton on 27 May 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Just wondering if anyone had used these and what they thought of them..any pics of figures after being washed in the Vajello washes would be appreciated
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: Gandalf on 28 May 2011, 01:33:11 AM
The smoke wash is quite good.  I water it down and wash over vehicles before dry brushing.  No pics at the minute though
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: marshall1945 on 01 August 2011, 09:05:01 PM
I mostly use Vajello paints but not used their washes. However I use Games Workshop Devlin Mud wash for all vehicles and all infantry for WW2. I works a treat (I have used 4 bottles since April - but then I have been on a bit of a painting spree!). It brings out the details nicely as well as giving a more relistic tone to the colours. It works really well on infantry. If I can take a reasonable picture I may try and get something put up on the forum
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: count_zero99uk on 04 August 2011, 04:16:22 PM
I have the Vallejo Inks and there fab, very pigmented i tend to water them down a lot before using.  But i also use the GW Washes.  It all comes down to the job in hand.
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: Dickie255 on 05 August 2011, 05:24:54 AM
Hi Folks

A bit of advice needed. I use homemade washes and the results are.....ok. I've used a black ink wash which leaves a fine speckle over the figures and have moved onto using burnt umber instead.

Anyway, my question is - are the Vallejo/GW washes etc a better product/finish then using homemade?

Cheers
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: Squirrel on 05 August 2011, 07:07:20 AM
How are you making your 'homemade' washes? If you are diluting normal paints, the 'speckle' is the paint pigment. Bought 'washes' are usually ink based, so no pigment residue.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Kev
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: Dickie255 on 07 August 2011, 05:54:27 AM
Thanks Kev

My washes are pretty basic. Some floor polish and a few drops of ink. I might give the shop bought ones' a try as there does seem to be a favourable opinion of them.

Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: marshall1945 on 17 August 2011, 05:50:39 PM
I used to make my own washes and they were sometimes OK but sometime very speckly. I may actually try some Vajello washes if their shades are different to GW, but Devlin Mud is great for WW2. Not only do the ready made washes avoid the speckles you can get if you make it up but at least with the GW they tone down the colours to a much more realistic look
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: Dickie255 on 18 August 2011, 07:09:27 AM
Hi Marshall

Thanks for the advice. I just bought some GW devlan mud the other day and I'm pleased with the results. I've been using it straight from the pot although I've read that others use it diluted with some water. Maybe a personal choice? I'm going to buy the Sepia wash as a way of shading some colonial khaki as it appears to give a more washed outlook
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: nikharwood on 19 August 2011, 11:19:02 PM
Yep - Devlan Mud [aka, in some circles, as "godwash"] can be good but also risks being over-powering on lighter colours: I'd suggest thinning it - and then you can go back & give it another wash if needed once you've seen it dry...

Another [better?] use for it is to take the whole pot, bung it in a bigger jar, add some Klear & some water...'Magic' wash: more versatile, lasts longerer. And is betterer.  ;)

You can, of course, do this with N.E.Other ink too...

I made my first jar of 'Magic' wash in about 2005 or so - in a large-ish coffee jar - and have been topping it up ever since: I've still not got through the bottle of Klear I bought...and it's had remnants of:

- GW Brown Ink
- GW Flesh Wash
- Devlan Mud
- Gryphonne Sepia
- Smokey Ink [Vallejo]
- W&N Brown Ink

added, with plenty of water, at various points  :D
Title: Re: Vajello washes
Post by: Dickie255 on 22 August 2011, 05:57:02 AM
Cheers Nik. Yes, I think the idea of mixing the GW wash with Klear is a good one and I'm all for making more economical use of materials. I will, at some point, get round to taking photos of the finished figures, however, it seems that there is always something 'new' to add to improve their appearance and they never make the finished stage but that is part of the fun!