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Title: SYW Queries
Post by: lentulus on 09 March 2010, 12:47:01 PM
Am I right in believing that, to field a unit with officers on foot and standard bearers, I must order the "Field Officers" and "Generic Standard Bearers" in addition to the main poses for the unit?

I have lost my willpower roll, my next order will be the start of a Prussian army for Black Powder.
Title: Re: 7YW Pack Structure
Post by: Leon on 09 March 2010, 03:01:14 PM
Quote from: lentulus on 09 March 2010, 12:47:01 PM
Am I right in believing that, to field a unit with officers on foot and standard bearers, I must order the "Field Officers" and "Generic Standard Bearers" in addition to the main poses for the unit?

I have lost my willpower roll, my next order will be the start of a Prussian army for Black Powder.

The SYW packs contain command figures, so generally 27 foot, 1 officer, 1 standard, 1 drummer.  Mounted packs are the same with 12 + 3 command.  There are the odd variations here and there but not many.  'Field Officers' and 'Generic Standard Bearers' are just for extras. 

Just a quick note, the Generic Standard Bearers are poles only, whereas the command within the packs have a cast on flag.
Title: Re: 7YW Pack Structure
Post by: lentulus on 09 March 2010, 03:49:54 PM
Quote from: Leon on 09 March 2010, 03:01:14 PM

The SYW packs contain command figures, so generally 27 foot, 1 officer, 1 standard, 1 drummer.  Mounted packs are the same with 12 + 3 command.  There are the odd variations here and there but not many.  'Field Officers' and 'Generic Standard Bearers' are just for extras. 

Just a quick note, the Generic Standard Bearers are poles only, whereas the command within the packs have a cast on flag.

Thanks, just what I needed to know.
Title: Hanovarian Cavalry Trumpeters for Seven Years War
Post by: T13A on 27 March 2010, 12:25:42 PM
Hi

I'm currently painting up a Hanovarian force for the Seven Years War. As Pendraken do not as yet produce any Hanovarian cavalry I am using British figures instead. I have chosen to use 'SYB13 Mounted Dragoons'  (not surprisingly) for the Hanovarian Dragoons and I thought the nearest woild be 'SYB24 Dragoon Guards' for the Hanovarian Cavalry regiments. The problem is that SYB24 comes with kettledrummers (that incedentally look fantastic) but the Hanovarian Cavalry regiments had trumpeters. So my question is do any of the Pendraken British Cavalry packs come with trumpeters (and wearing tricorn hats)?

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum and thanks for the help.

Cheers
Title: Re: Hanovarian Cavalry Trumpeters for Seven Years War
Post by: Leon on 01 April 2010, 12:31:43 AM
Sorry for the delay in replying, I had to cast some off.  Your best bet would be to use the trumpeter from the Austrian Cuirassiers (code SYA13), complete with tricorn.
Title: Re: Hanovarian Cavalry Trumpeters for Seven Years War
Post by: Zbigniew on 01 April 2010, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: Fulham Fan on 27 March 2010, 12:25:42 PM
Hi

I'm currently painting up a Hanovarian force for the Seven Years War. As Pendraken do not as yet produce any Hanovarian cavalry I am using British figures instead. I have chosen to use 'SYB13 Mounted Dragoons'  (not surprisingly) for the Hanovarian Dragoons and I thought the nearest woild be 'SYB24 Dragoon Guards' for the Hanovarian Cavalry regiments. The problem is that SYB24 comes with kettledrummers (that incedentally look fantastic) but the Hanovarian Cavalry regiments had trumpeters. So my question is do any of the Pendraken British Cavalry packs come with trumpeters (and wearing tricorn hats)?

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum and thanks for the help.

Cheers


Hello, I also do the same army and I used prussian cuirassiers for Hanoverian heavy cavalry. I think they are better for Hanoverian heavy cavalry then British dragoons for two three reasons:
1. cuirass is easy to get hidden under the paint.
2. Musicians are trumpheters
3. most important - hanoverian horses did not have tails cut like the British ones, they were left long.


I hope it helps,
Of course it is a pitty there are no Hanoverian horse figures. They are much needed.

Zbigniew
Title: Re: Hanovarian Cavalry Trumpeters for Seven Years War
Post by: T13A on 01 April 2010, 08:48:16 PM
Very many thanks for the replies. I would also be grateful for any advice on what figures to use for Hessian Cavalry/Dragoons and Hanovarian Dragoons, also Hessian/Hanovarian artillery.

Cheers
Title: Re: Hanovarian Cavalry Trumpeters for Seven Years War
Post by: Zbigniew on 02 April 2010, 06:34:17 AM
Quote from: Fulham Fan on 01 April 2010, 08:48:16 PM
Very many thanks for the replies. I would also be grateful for any advice on what figures to use for Hessian Cavalry/Dragoons and Hanovarian Dragoons, also Hessian/Hanovarian artillery.

Cheers

For Hessian and Hanoverian dragoons I used Prussian dragoons. For Hessian Heavies Prussian Cuirassiers are perfect choice. In case of artillery it is paint job that matters. Guns themselves and crews are almost the same with the difference only in commander figures. In this nice scale you can easily convert one into another with apropriate painting. However if there were original Hanoverian cavalry figures, I would buy them immediately and replace those  I have - I am such a freak at this hobby   :)
Title: Hanovarian SYW Artillery
Post by: T13A on 05 April 2010, 02:21:25 PM
I was wondering what colour paint people use for the coats of Hanovarian artillerymen for the SYW? Sources seem to describe them ranging from 'light blue' to 'grey blue' and the illiustrations that I have seen appear to be nearer what I would call 'mid blue'. 

Many thanks



Title: Re: Hanovarian SYW Artillery
Post by: Zbigniew on 06 April 2010, 08:36:20 AM
Hello,
I gave mine slightly darker sky-blue. But only for those few in coats - the majority Pendraken gunners are in waistcoats only, which were red.
I hope it helps.
Zbigniew
Title: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: lentulus on 22 April 2010, 02:24:19 PM
What are they doing, how are they dressed?  Any chance of a picture?
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: Leon on 22 April 2010, 02:36:34 PM
I'll get some pics up when we get back from Salute!
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: lentulus on 23 April 2010, 12:52:15 AM
Thanks!  Have a great show - take lots of pictures!
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: Leon on 26 April 2010, 04:08:28 PM
SYW12 - Civilians:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/4554442359_717006d9c1.jpg)
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: lentulus on 26 April 2010, 04:23:46 PM
Thanks!  There is some nice command-stand potential there.
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: nikharwood on 26 April 2010, 07:23:46 PM
Not to mention for Pirates games too...hmm...
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: lentulus on 30 April 2010, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: Leon on 26 April 2010, 04:08:28 PM
SYW12 - Civilians:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/4554442359_717006d9c1.jpg)

Is buddy carrying a plow?  Or what?

Looks like it might be an easy conversion to a panzerfaust...
Title: Re: SYW12 Civilians
Post by: Leon on 30 April 2010, 04:23:56 PM
It's a fork/hoe type bit of kit.
Title: SYW artillery
Post by: kustenjaeger on 23 May 2010, 01:04:02 PM
Greetings

Though I have some on order (Prussian 3pdr batalion guns and 12 pouder guns to act as Hessian) I wondered whether the various artillery field pieces in the SYW range [3 pdr battalion gun, 6 pdr gun, 9 pdr gun, 12 pounder gun] were the same for each nationality (Prussia, Austria, France, Britain, Russian)? 

Regards

Edward
Title: Re: SYW artillery
Post by: Leon on 23 May 2010, 01:27:19 PM
The guns themselves are the same for each nation, but some have different limbers.  The crew's are 6 men per gun, 4 of them are generic, the other 2 are nation specific.
Title: Re: SYW artillery
Post by: kustenjaeger on 23 May 2010, 02:05:54 PM
Leon

Thanks - that's really useful for planning purposes.

Regards

Edward
Title: SYW russian mounted grenadiers
Post by: maciek on 25 May 2010, 12:10:32 PM
What is in russian mounted grenadiers pack ?
What are the poses ?
Title: Re: SYW russian mounted grenadiers
Post by: sebastosfig on 26 May 2010, 05:50:49 PM
hi.
You can see them (plus dragoons) here in my blog:

http://kriegspiel.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/18/13418854.html#comments (http://kriegspiel.canalblog.com/archives/2009/04/18/13418854.html#comments)
Title: Re: SYW russian mounted grenadiers
Post by: maciek on 26 May 2010, 11:02:48 PM
thanks !
Title: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: lentulus on 13 July 2010, 01:45:17 PM
SYR 26 and 29, when you get a chance, please?
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Zbigniew on 13 July 2010, 04:51:10 PM
I would like to see them, too.
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 16 July 2010, 06:31:51 PM
SYR26 - Cuirassiers, waistcoat:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4799242455_3153b82583.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4799877762_942a57e899.jpg)

SYR29 - Cossacks:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4799249087_15c4c7b4e2.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: lentulus on 16 July 2010, 06:43:15 PM
Excellent!  I am thinking I might use the cossacks as Saxon Uhlans.

http://vial.jean.free.fr/new_npi/revues_npi/28_2002/npi_2802/28_saxon_uhl.htm
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 16 July 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Hmm, possibly.  I'm trying to think if there's anything more suitable in the Polish/Ottoman ranges?
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: lentulus on 16 July 2010, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: Leon on 16 July 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Hmm, possibly.  I'm trying to think if there's anything more suitable in the Polish/Ottoman ranges?

I'd be up for suggestions.  They would make a break from the usual run of hussars.
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 16 July 2010, 10:25:19 PM
I'll have a think and a chat with Dave, see what we can come up with.  He's away for the weekend visiting a friend.  He might even get time for a game, which will be the first for some time!
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Zbigniew on 17 July 2010, 08:45:09 AM
What a lovely figures!
These are tempting me to collect yet another one SYW army  :)
The cossack in the middle is just perfect. And the one on the left side even looks like Kalmuck Russian auxilaries!
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Zbigniew on 19 July 2010, 08:15:56 AM
Just one more question about SYW Russians. Are codes SYR9 Grenadier foot marching waistcoat and SYR16 Observation Corp grenadier marching of the same pose?
Thanks in advance,
Zbigniew
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 19 July 2010, 07:27:52 PM
The SYR9 is marching with the gun over the shoulder, SYR16 is in march attack, with the gun upright.  I've changed the website to show that.
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 19 July 2010, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: lentulus on 16 July 2010, 07:28:15 PM
I'd be up for suggestions.  They would make a break from the usual run of hussars.

We've had a chat, but it's a tricky one.  There is a guy in the OT range here:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4382059684_4ff7f6fdea.jpg)
but he's carrying a shield, and you'd have to chop the crest off his head.

Dave suggested a lancer figure which comes in the mounted Croat pack in the 30YW range (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/YW4-p3028/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/YW4-p3028/)).  He's supposed to be part of the command, and there's only 1 in a pack normally, but we could do you a whole pack of them if you needed it.  I know people have used them before but I can't remember for what!

I'm guessing a pic would be helpful?!
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: lentulus on 19 July 2010, 10:29:38 PM
Quote from: Leon on 19 July 2010, 08:21:32 PM

I'm guessing a pic would be helpful?!

If you could, sorry to put you through the trouble.  I feel like I am turning into a special order pain in the butt, especially since you are probably tossing a lot of perfectly good figures back in the pot to do the "specials."
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 20 July 2010, 01:32:02 AM
Quote from: lentulus on 19 July 2010, 10:29:38 PM
If you could, sorry to put you through the trouble.  I feel like I am turning into a special order pain in the butt, especially since you are probably tossing a lot of perfectly good figures back in the pot to do the "specials."

Nah, I'll get them sorted.  Most of the pic requests aren't too bad, as I keep a lot of spare figures on my desk.

Just in case I forget though, the FI pics you asked for, I'm going to cast up the whole range, then we can photo them for the website at the same time.  Shouldn't be long, I'll try and cast them up this week.
Title: Re: Picture request SYW russian cossacks?
Post by: Leon on 21 July 2010, 05:17:38 PM
Right then, here's a couple of pics, but I can always stick a couple of samples in your next order?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4815911484_96f5de074c.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4815914416_cce6d60704.jpg)
Title: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: lentulus on 23 July 2010, 12:55:51 PM
Please?
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: lentulus on 26 July 2010, 07:06:47 PM
Or a description.  Is it the classic musket vertical like this

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Hohenfriedeberg.Attack.of.Prussian.Infantry.1745.jpg)

(but with a hat of course)?
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: Leon on 26 July 2010, 11:19:06 PM
I'll double check tomorrow, I meant to get a pic taken over the weekend but never got chance.
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: lentulus on 26 July 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: Leon on 26 July 2010, 11:19:06 PM
I'll double check tomorrow, I meant to get a pic taken over the weekend but never got chance.

Thanks!  I am not usually in a rush, but I want to place an order Thursday or Friday.
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: Zbigniew on 28 July 2010, 08:51:45 AM
Lentulus, I have many of these. They are quite like on your picture. the only difference is that they dont have bayonets fixed and are a bit more passive in look. they look very good if you base them in close order though.
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: Leon on 28 July 2010, 09:17:21 PM
SYP6:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/4838387403_05beba2d20.jpg)
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: lentulus on 28 July 2010, 10:49:47 PM
Thank you again!
Title: Re: Pic Request - SYP6 Prussian Tricorn Foot, marching, left hand.
Post by: lentulus on 01 August 2010, 08:57:51 PM
In consideration, more of a "standing at attention" than marching.  A dignified pose, suitable for disregarding the enemy's fire while awaiting the order to advance.  Defiantly on my list for my Prussian-inspired forces.