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Title: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 03 April 2011, 10:44:51 AM
Bit of help needed here. Who is the SYW general raising his hat above a bald pate?
DP
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: clibinarium on 03 April 2011, 02:16:26 PM
I don't know for certain but I'd guess its John Manners, Marquess of Granby. At Warburg he famously lead a cavalry charge without his hat, giving rise to the (now largely defunct) phrase "going at it bald headed". Unlike most of the men of his time he did not wear a wig, like Charles XII of Sweden, now that I think of it.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/John_Manners_Marquess_of_Granby_1763_65.jpg)
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leon on 03 April 2011, 06:33:40 PM
If it's this one you mean, then what Clib says! 

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5449024336_1f0d079b52.jpg)
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Bernie on 03 April 2011, 08:25:26 PM
Seems he was also quite a nice chap.

He gave many of the wounded troopers from the Warburg battle a pension from his own pocket.

Many of whom set up pubs and frequentlu naming them Marquis of Granby. Hence the number of pubs in England with that name.

Well that is the story I was given years ago, be nice to think it was true

Bernie
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 04 April 2011, 11:36:19 AM
Many thanks guys about the Marquess of Granby. I've now got all my SYW generals boxed off. Still haven't got a Saltyakov yet, but I've ended up with two Frederick the Greats and two von Zietens and I think the character models must still be wrongly coded as in my latest order I had Saltyakov and Ferdinand of Brunswick - a quite large chap as I recall from his portraits and not a skinny general of hussars. Anyway at least I can now model the Marquis of Granby for my non-painting opponent. Thanks again everyone.
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leon on 04 April 2011, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 04 April 2011, 11:36:19 AM
Many thanks guys about the Marquess of Granby. I've now got all my SYW generals boxed off. Still haven't got a Saltyakov yet, but I've ended up with two Frederick the Greats and two von Zietens and I think the character models must still be wrongly coded as in my latest order I had Saltyakov and Ferdinand of Brunswick - a quite large chap as I recall from his portraits and not a skinny general of hussars. Anyway at least I can now model the Marquis of Granby for my non-painting opponent. Thanks again everyone.

We've had a mention previously somewhere about the codes possibly being wrong.  I could do with sending one of each to a SYW buff to identify them properly for us.
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 04 April 2011, 02:24:48 PM
Hi Leon,
That's an excellent idea. It took me two goes to get a Seydlitz in his cuirassier armour.
DP
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leon on 04 April 2011, 03:34:45 PM
Fair enough, first volunteer can have a complete set to check over, and confirm against the codes.  Ideally with pics and and info to back up the identities.

So, who wants them?!   :-SS
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 04 April 2011, 06:37:10 PM
Well, seeing as I'm the moaney one :-\ I'll be happy to give it a go.
DP
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leon on 04 April 2011, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 04 April 2011, 06:37:10 PM
Well, seeing as I'm the moaney one :-\ I'll be happy to give it a go.
DP

No bother, I'll cast a set up and pop them in the post.
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Last Hussar on 04 April 2011, 11:05:26 PM
Can't be the Marquis of Granby

I've got 2.

In my Austrian Army

of 1705...

And they are both wearing grey wigs (ie I undercoat grey and don't paint the hair)
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 05 April 2011, 07:26:19 AM
The Marquis figure is very similar to the general's ADC (SYW1) but whereas that does have a wig the Marquis figure is quite definitely bald.
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 06 April 2011, 02:37:06 PM
Annd... That's why Household Cavalry Troopers are the only soldiers in the British Army who can salute without a headdress....
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 17 May 2011, 05:24:38 PM
I've identified and painted up the SYW generals and Leon has sorted the masters. The Photos are on www.flickr.com/photos/57220021@NO5/

The figures will be mounted with subordinates eventually as various levels of command.
DP
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: mollinary on 20 May 2011, 09:58:30 AM
DP,

I am having difficulty getting to your photos - continually getting a "you must have followed a bad link" message from flickr.  Just my usual technical incompetence, or a fixable problem?

Regards

Mollinary
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Hertsblue on 20 May 2011, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 20 May 2011, 09:58:30 AM

I am having difficulty getting to your photos - continually getting a "you must have followed a bad link" message from flickr.  Just my usual technical incompetence, or a fixable problem?


Nope, me too. Although I'll match your blundering, no problem. =)
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 20 May 2011, 09:04:18 PM
Well I don't know chaps! I wrote down exactly what it says at the top of my flickr page. However, it is most definitely NO5 on my page, but when I tried the link I too ended up on a dud page which had no5 at the top. I am most definitely not an IT expert so I have no idea why, which is annoying now that the photos are there doing nothing. Anyone else got any idea how to link back to my flickr page?
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 20 May 2011, 10:16:55 PM
There's a missing number after the ...@NO5/ (I think 57220021@N05 is your account number)

Managed to find your photos, try:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57220021@N05/sets/72157626608964610/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57220021@N05/sets/72157626608964610/)


Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: mollinary on 21 May 2011, 08:49:44 AM
Well done that man!  Works for me.  And Bravo Zulu to DP for the identification.


Mollinary
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: Leman on 28 May 2011, 05:39:52 AM
Diolch yn fawr O Dinas Powys. Nice to see the little chaps up there at last. Leon has done the code matching at his end of the operation so people should be getting what they order in future.
DP
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 May 2011, 12:27:43 PM
Thanks for the info about going at it bald headed, Clib. I didn't know that one.
Title: Re: SYW Generals
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 28 May 2011, 09:33:06 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 28 May 2011, 05:39:52 AM
Diolch yn fawr O Dinas Powys. Nice to see the little chaps up there at last. Leon has done the code matching at his end of the operation so people should be getting what they order in future.
DP

Dim problem, hapus i bod o cymorth  ;)

Glad to be of assisance - Flickr does seem to be deliberately obtuse with regards to links and posting pictures  ~X(