Right - I'll admit it - I love my GW Chaos Warrior & Beastman army...I love it so much I'd like to replicate it in 10mm :D
The beastmen are sorted - but I'd love to see some nastiness to go alongside them - kind of like these:
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127298/hero1.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127313/hero2.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127327/hero3.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127354/hero4.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127458/warriors1.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127475/warriors2.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/knights1.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/knights2.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/lord1.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/lord2.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/shaggoth.JPG)
The GW Chaos WM figures are OK [I used to have an army] - but they are a bit caricaturish...not to mention the stoopid price :o
Anyone else fancy some vicious, heartless, soulless loveliness? :)
Ah, I remember first seeing these at the club many years ago in your game against Dave Ley, he of the changing-rules-as-the-game-goes along fame ;). Beautiffuly painted and very characterful.
Hey, add my vote :D
Quote from: Steve J on 04 March 2011, 08:23:35 PM
Ah, I remember first seeing these at the club many years ago in your game against Dave Ley, he of the changing-rules-as-the-game-goes along fame ;). Beautiffuly painted and very characterful.
Hahaha - yep, that'd help explain why I lost :)
Thanks for the comp :) As I remember it, his were pretty-much just undercoated: therefore, I'm claiming a moral victory!
I have got my Warmaster ones, but yes please to this, I need individual ones to make a mass of warriors, not static lines...
SO yes please from me :) :D
Sort of yes please too, but not to GW-y.
I'd prefer a more Moorcockian style Chaos Army a la Elric.
The worry would be though that you might get sued on the 1:1 scale.
A big yes to all things Moorcock
Yes some NOT-Chaos Warrior spiky goodness please, and some NOT-Chaos spawn, hounds Daemons etc.
Gordon
Masdsive fan of Elric when i was a spottyy teenager, I'd say yes!
Rather than chaos, call them 'ornately armoured', if not too spilkey they could be used for Melnibonians, Numenoreans, and maybe even atlanteans ....... then I'd add my vote.
Cheers,
Kev
Quote from: clibinarium on 05 March 2011, 01:31:13 AM
The worry would be though that you might get sued on the 1:1 scale.
Yep - not copying obviously, but more the 'look' & 'feel' of Chaos-types everywhere...and not too spiky either [I took all the horns off the helmets in those 28s]
You have my vote on this. Also, it would be great to add some Marauders!
Suggestion and votes added, although we obviously can't make Chaos Warriors. It'd be cool to have some kind of Death Knight personality figure though.
Thanks Leon - I'd buy a boatload of these - both for WM mass battles, but also some for individual basing a la skirmishing: oh, and some to paint up as statues for dungeon (& other) scenery 8)
Add my vote too! to barbarian/chaos marauders/nasty tribes
Quote from: capthugeca on 04 March 2011, 10:26:31 PM
Sort of yes please too, but not to GW-y.
I'd prefer a more Moorcockian style Chaos Army a la Elric.
This is good.
Add my vote !!!
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Add me too. I'd love some not-Chaos Warriors, on foot, on horse, in chariots. And some not-Daemons.
Marauders I think can probably be sourced from the historical ranges.
Cheers, Martyn
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Decent amount of interest in these it would appear...
And BEARS :D
ianS
QuoteAnd BEARS
me too - vote for chaos warriors and bears. The goblin-wolf centaurs already in the fantasy range would fit in nicely in a chaos army
Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 August 2011, 08:05:51 AM
And BEARS :D
Having just read The Northern Lights I have a hankering for a bear. An armoured bear.
But I'd likely only want the one ... :-<
Or maybe two - one in battered, simple armour, the other in intricate, gilded armour.
Yea for the
panserbørne. Brilliant idea.
Cheers, Martyn
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I support this. if a chaos range is produced, my quest to replicate the armies of warhammer fantasy in 10mm will be completely provided for by pendraken (it probably will be anyway, but if, indeed there was a purpose built range, there would be much less dependancy on my novice painting and conversion skills)
I`d kill for a Chaos collection in this scale.
a follower of Khorne (or for that matter any of the chaos Gods) would kill for much less then such a gift from the heavens.
Quote from: sixsideddice on 12 September 2011, 11:34:49 PM
I`d kill for a Chaos collection in this scale.
Likewise...that was priced sensibly of course & not the daftness of GW :)
Ooooooh..... Chaos (sorry..NOT chaos)....
Just my cup of tea....
Cheers - Phil.
Eithe Morecock flavoured Chaos (Pan Tang anyone) or Khaos - Nemesis the Warlock flavour please...
Hmmm...
I fancy a go at one of these ....What sort of scale ?
How tall should these chappies be to the eyes....and the top of the head ?
See if I can fit one in.
Cheers - Phil
this video should give you the idea.
if you notice they are both taller and wider then the Empire soldgiers
They do look quite distinctive, so we'd have to look at doing a cool looking Knight with accentuated armour and oversized weaponry? ;)
Quoteif you notice they are both taller and wider then the Empire soldgiers
again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?
My view of Chaos Warriors will forever by in the early 80s as per this boxed set
(http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/c2s1chaoswarriorsx.jpg)
QuoteMy view of Chaos Warriors will forever by in the early 80s as per this boxed set
Wow, I have those fred. yes, when I think of Chaos warriors, many
many things come to mind before I pick up the present GW accepted status quo image.
The ones you show here fred, are exactly the kind of guys I`m thinking about in my minds eye.
Quote from: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 07:46:15 PM
again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?
Kovav showed us how GW marauders/chaos knights look like - I think this is okay :) - but you're having a point, of course, six. It would be way more interesting to create something unaffiliated and self-reliant.
On the other hand, the different releases/versions of GW chaos warriors where created by various designers and influenced by several media throughout the years, decades even. There's other companies than GW too, naturally. So there is some kind of design history (including customer feedback etc.) you shouldn't completely overlook I say.
If you ask me, there are some attributes you might want to describe as typical for the generic "chaos warrior stereotype", such as:
- tall
- bulky
- heavy armor
- large weapons
- complete face hidden beneath a helmet
- sometimes horns, sometimes spikes, sometimes skulls or skull ornaments
rest is individual flavour or style.
By the way - since the fantasy (especially the dungeon) range is still quite in it's baby shoes, wouldn't it be fun to have a forum section or at least thread, to discuss if and how there should be an individual Pendraken style which marks at least some "sub-ranges" as
Pendraken ?
I wouldn't want to limit the sculptors either, but maybe this is possible. just a thought.
Cheers, Nico
For me I think of Moorcock and Melnibone, which I see as in relation to the current fantasy range slightly spikier versions of the high elves with big dragons & riders. Perhaps less barding on horses, and did I mention the dragons...
QuoteKovav showed us how GW marauders/chaos knights look like - I think this is okay - but you're having a point, of course, six. It would be way more interesting to create something unaffiliated and self-reliant.
On the other hand, the different releases/versions of GW chaos warriors where created by various designers and influenced by several media throughout the years, decades even. There's other companies than GW too, naturally. So there is some kind of design history (including customer feedback etc.) you shouldn't completely overlook I say.
Of course Nico, I totally see your point, and as I always say, at the end of the day it’s all down to personal choice really. I think I was trying to steer a course away from `specifically ‘ the GW vision of things, maybe to look beyond that to other options; but I do think I`m probably flogging a dead horse here, as the images almost set down in stone by the primogenitor of it all is an enduring and alluring temptation many will find hard to deviate from, almost as an institutional psyche at this stage and almost three decades down the road.
Bottom line is, I guess.... I`d just know I`d be bl**y happy to see
any Chaos warriors in the 10mm range, what ever design stance they ultimately take :)
Six :)
Quote from: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 07:46:15 PM
again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?
Go back to the original novels and interpret afresh, don't be a sheep, how about a Jerry Cornelius type figure as well?
Quote from: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 10:39:18 PM
Bottom line is, I guess.... I`d just know I`d be bl**y happy to see any Chaos warriors in the 10mm range, what ever design stance they ultimately take :)
True - Let's see what Techno comes up with.
QuoteGo back to the original novels and interpret afresh, don't be a sheep, how about a Jerry Cornelius type figure as well?
Ooooh, now that would be something worth waiting to see :)
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Quote from: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 07:46:15 PM
again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?
I support divirsity and creativity, I was simpy pointing out how GW makes them. I was mistaken though by implying that that was THE way to make them. I too will be very, very happy to see any kind of Chaos warriors.
QuoteI support divirsity and creativity, I was simpy pointing out how GW makes them. I was mistaken though by implying that that was THE way to make them. I too will be very, very happy to see any kind of Chaos warriors.
Gosh
NO Kovov, I don`t think you were wrong at all. Sometimes I come across as very firm and single minded in my views (bloody minded some might say hehe) but I totally do see where you are coming from - as well as other valued points of view from others. For me, I`m just trying to open the view a little to see if there is a shared collective wider than the more obvious. I LOVE the stereotypical Chaos type dude as much as the next person, and would probably be first in the line to purchase a legion of them for my own games. I suppose I have images of the movie Excalibur, Flesh and Blood (and recently Ironclad); and books like Elrik flaoting around in my mind as viable alternatives hehe.
I LOVE all these comments... it really makes me think. And occasionally I get de-railed and I find myself taking new lines of thought I`d never ever considred as others show me alternative possibilities.
Its all good stuff.
Six :)
Quote from: Sandinista on 15 September 2011, 10:19:16 PM
For me I think of Moorcock and Melnibone, which I see as in relation to the current fantasy range slightly spikier versions of the high elves with big dragons & riders. Perhaps less barding on horses, and did I mention the dragons...
That's how I see Chaos as well, unless it's Khaos form Nemesis the Warlock from the Alan Moore period of 2000AD (which was far more, erm... Grilby)
Sandinista, you forgot to metion the Dragons, or the Dragons!
*chuckles at Lemmy*
mmmm yes, Moorcock Chaos - almost elfen like and fey, delicate silver tongued Melnibone knights with an almost feminine contradiction about them (Slanesh)... yet oh so very dark and evil.
Hmmm, nice image. I could work with that :-\
I use these for my 15mm HOTT Chaos Warriors:-
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/capthugeca/Hordes%20of%20the%20Things/Chaos/ChaosWarband.jpg)
They are too big for 10mm (standing about 17mm) but are, I think, sufficiently un/like GW's to be usable.
I like Moorcock's idea of Chaos but don't look upon Melniboneans as Chaotic - more utterly amoral and so happy to call upon Chaos or Law and I'm happy to use Dark Elves for that.
To me a Moorcockian Chaos army would be more what Prince Gaynor led.
hmmmm, yes you are dead right there aren`t you capthugeca. I DO like your minis, really tasty.
Now Prince Gaynor's army would be fun :d
Hmmm, yes. Prince Gaynor's Hell-Horde of Chaos would be a nice idea.
There is already an ideal mini to represent Queen Xiombarg.
I guess you could then add Conan and Elrik to the mix.
Nice idea :-\
Quote from: sixsideddice on 16 September 2011, 08:47:18 PM
I guess you could then add Conan and Elrik to the mix.
Do you mean Corum?
And what about the Grande Bretagne Empire from the Runestaff Chronicles?
Hmm, tricky one for me this. I'm not at all a fan of the oversized weapon, stupidly large helmeted, chaos spiky bits look of GW's chaos. I like weapons and armour to be in sensible proportions and look actually functional! (I know, even though it's fantasy :o ;) )
My personal favourite take of chaos is Glorantha, where you have chaotic races (nicely covered by the beestmen, haedusmen and the like), but where generally there's no such thing as a GW chaos warrior type.
What I'd like to see are some generic medieval types to match the slightly larger scale of the fantasy figures including (to bring it back on-topic) "knights of dark and light".
The dark knights would have the traditional skull/evil face shields, bony/organic/gothic armour, etc, but more anti-paladin/undead knight types than chaos warriors per se.
Conversely, the knights of light would be your paladin types, with crosses on shields, clean-cut lines, etc.
Anyway, just my tuppence worth ;)
Meirion
Eeeeek !
I'm going to have my work cut out to hopefully please everybody ! ;D ;D....But I'll see what I can come up with. ;)
The most important thing from a starting point of view for me is going to be the scale...
As I write, I haven't got any of the current Pendraken fantasy range..(Tho' Leon's promised me a few samples very soon.)
If I understand correctly from what forum members have said....The Fantasy models are a bit larger....Anyone fancy telling me by how much ?
I could really do with a comparison shot of a 'human' figure from both the fantasy range and any historical range standing next to each other.... Any chance guys ?
(Ideally figures standing almost upright would be the best...says Mr Fussy....But that'll give me the size of the 'dolly' I'll need to start with.)
Hope the above makes some sort of sense...
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 17 September 2011, 02:24:12 PM
Eeeeek !
I'm going to have my work cut out to hopefully please everybody ! ;D ;D....But I'll see what I can come up with. ;)
The most important thing from a starting point of view for me is going to be the scale...
As I write, I haven't got any of the current Pendraken fantasy range..(Tho' Leon's promised me a few samples very soon.)
If I understand correctly from what forum members have said....The Fantasy models are a bit larger....Anyone fancy telling me by how much ?
I could really do with a comparison shot of a 'human' figure from both the fantasy range and any historical range standing next to each other.... Any chance guys ?
(Ideally figures standing almost upright would be the best...says Mr Fussy....But that'll give me the size of the 'dolly' I'll need to start with.)
Hope the above makes some sort of sense...
Cheers - Phil.
This one is the best I can remember from my previous searches (from http://ewigeheld.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/10mm-pendraken-miniatures-fantasy/heroes_1/ )
(http://ewigeheld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/heroes_1.jpg?w=949)
Most of the figures are historical, however the two guys in cloaks are wood elves and the two bare armed/chested guys are barbarians. The striking thing is how much taller the elves look than the figure with the blue staff even though they are behind him.
Although these are all fantasy, the barbarian chieftain at the top of the stairs is closer to the historic scale than the others. His head only comes up to the shoulders of the barbarian swordsman on the bottom right of the picture.
(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l602/Meirion_Hopkins/10mm%20Minis/P1010116a.jpg)
Whilst searching for images I found my own comment on the subject (with the photo below) in this thread: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2848.0
(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8871/08032008182511en0.jpg)
The skeleton far left is Pendraken fantasy, whilst the wizard is Merlin from ARL18 Late Roman Personalities. (From http://aportodos.mforos.com/1354550/7782193-10mm-pendraken-vs-kallistra/ )
Just spotted this one from http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2009/05/10-mm-scale-comparison-among.html
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Rp6_kYbaGwI/Sf8ks2ulWMI/AAAAAAAAAMc/9hiTEhCc10I/s320/P5040010.JPG)
Another Arthurian Personality/Skeleton combo on the right.
I like GW Chaos - like these...from my start of this thread :P
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127276/heroes.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127458/warriors1.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127475/warriors2.JPG)
(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/lord1.JPG)
Having said that, it'd be nice to see anything that's evil & intimidating & looming & enigmatic & dark...and with some female sexy-ness as well...
No pressure then Techno ;) ;D
QuoteDo you mean Corum?
Naaaaa!! Marval did a few Conan and Elrik crossovers.
Brilliant stuff guys..Much appreciated!! :-bd
Sooooo....Basically a head taller than a historical figure....
Pressure....What pressure ?..... ;D ;D...I'll sort something out !
I'll start popping up piccys once I've got something on the go...or near to completion, but there are some other projects that are higher priority to do first. ( No clues...or guessing.) ;)
But I'll do odd models as 'fillers' as i progress.
Then I'll wait for the flack ! ;D
Cheers - Phil.....(Who....if he was better at finding his way around sites with a bit more competence would have been able to find the stuff for himself. !.....Mind you..It would have probably taken me about a week...So many thanks again.)
Quote from: Techno on 17 September 2011, 02:24:12 PM
I could really do with a comparison shot of a 'human' figure from both the fantasy range and any historical range standing next to each other.... Any chance guys ?
A comparison shot with some medieval types on the left, a wood elf in the centre, and barbarians and an amazon on the right. Most noticable is the amazon on the extreme right, these are strapping lasses!
Otherwise, the 'a head taller' doesn't apply, I would say. The fantasy ones are bigger, but only a little. Oh, and if you would like some other comparison shots with other figures, just ask!
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u26/OldenBUA/Other%20stuff/Fantasy-1.jpg)
Note: All sadly untouched, but not unloved, I can assure you!
Shes a big lass on the end there...
Quote from: Luddite on 18 September 2011, 12:00:30 PM
Shes a big lass on the end there...
Maybe they grow em big in the Boro? I heard the Amazons were modelled on these. Or maybe they were referring to something else...
Quote from: sixsideddice on 18 September 2011, 07:27:50 AM
Naaaaa!! Marval did a few Conan and Elrik crossovers.
:o
>:(
Sacrilege! [-(
It could have been worse, it could have been DC comics!
=O agreed.
..... but
........ I read a few of them, and was surprised. They`re not half bad actually :-SS
don`t hit me :-B
Quote from: OldenBUA on 18 September 2011, 11:57:11 AM
A comparison shot with some medieval types on the left, a wood elf in the centre, and barbarians and an amazon on the right. Most noticable is the amazon on the extreme right, these are strapping lasses!
Otherwise, the 'a head taller' doesn't apply, I would say. The fantasy ones are bigger, but only a little. Oh, and if you would like some other comparison shots with other figures, just ask!
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u26/OldenBUA/Other%20stuff/Fantasy-1.jpg)
Note: All sadly untouched, but not unloved, I can assure you!
Hmmm....
Thanks for that 'Olden'....A good bit clearer from an eye level perspective...
More like half a head(ish) taller would seem nearer the mark to me ??
Cheers - Phil....(And thanks for the offer of other shots....May take you up on that !)
Quote from: OldenBUA on 18 September 2011, 12:02:16 PM
Maybe they grow em big in the Boro? I heard the Amazons were modelled on these.
If they were modelled on the average Boro lass, they'd be wider than they are tall... :o :D
from a GW-esque stand point, the barbs can easily be maruaders. the amazons and easily be slaneshee demons. what I really, really want is super armored, huge, badass juggernaut knights of evil. they dont have to chaos. but they do have to badass. KHORNE
That is one scary woman! :-S
Quote from: Leon on 18 September 2011, 04:49:58 PM
If they were modelled on the average Boro lass, they'd be wider than they are tall... :o :D
And I thought that the Spartans had it hard.
Hats off to you, Leon.
I'm glad I'm a southern softie! #:-S
Quote from: Techno on 18 September 2011, 03:14:47 PM
Hmmm....
Thanks for that 'Olden'....A good bit clearer from an eye level perspective...
More like half a head(ish) taller would seem nearer the mark to me ??
Cheers - Phil....(And thanks for the offer of other shots....May take you up on that !)
Just a thought, but if it is badass chaos warriors you're sculpting then they probably ought to be more on a par with the amazon heroin/head taller than a mere half-head. After all, they are supposed to be big, hulking and scary.
Cheers!
Meirion
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 20 September 2011, 10:22:00 PM
Just a thought, but if it is badass chaos warriors you're sculpting then they probably ought to be more on a par with the amazon heroin/head taller than a mere half-head. After all, they are supposed to be big, hulking and scary.
Cheers!
Meirion
here here! huge chaos warrior kick ass!
Could be something like the dudes from the Conan film (jhon millus one) who raid the conan village at the first sequence of the film.
Quote from: jchaos79 on 01 October 2011, 11:20:55 AM
Could be something like the dudes from the Conan film (jhon millus one) who raid the conan village at the first sequence of the film.
From about 6 mins in...
I find it best just to post images when comes to movies. less chance to get cockblocked
If they sculpt a good range of chaos warriors and cavalry I would purchase several packs to build a warmaster chaos army :d I'll stay tuned on this thread
All votes added!
Good good :) gosh, haven't finished my undead army and thinking about a chaos one...
damm I can't edit... is any sculptor working on this request? :)
Nothing yet. It does have a good number of votes, but it's not something we're looking at adding to the ranges at the moment. I think Techno mentioned having a go at something, but just as a test piece I think.
Can I vote twice? :D
What I'd love to see is something as much as similar to this one:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Rp6_kYbaGwI/S9X5NUJlrxI/AAAAAAAAAoo/OwAGq7_yaiA/s1600/P4260004.JPG)
I'd buy a shedload of those, but on principle refuse to go near the Evil Empires products.
Is that the principle where to field a full Necron Flayed Ones unit of 20 models is going to cost you £80?
I want them at Pendraken prices and individually based.
Blacksmith - can you tell me what figures those are in the two back ranks that are unarmoured and have swords and spears? (the unit that seems to be led by beastmen). Unless i'm not making the photo out right, they look like they'd make decent wood elf wardancers.
Or are they the Eureka miniatures ones, which are great designs, but unfortunately far too f*$£%ing wee and small beside other 10/12mm figures (they look like halflings/hobbits or 6mm scale beside them) ?
Quote from: Dunnadd on 03 November 2011, 08:50:53 PM
Blacksmith - can you tell me what figures those are in the two back ranks that are unarmoured and have swords and spears? (the unit that seems to be led by beastmen). Unless i'm not making the photo out right, they look like they'd make decent wood elf wardancers.
Or are they the Eureka miniatures ones, which are great designs, but unfortunately far too f*$£%ing wee and small beside other 10/12mm figures (they look like halflings/hobbits or 6mm scale beside them) ?
They are 10mm satyrs from Eureka. You can see them individually at my blog: http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/tiny-sacred-band-ii.html (http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/tiny-sacred-band-ii.html)
Thanks Blacksmith. I have a plan! Buy 10mm Eureka satyrs, chop them in half at the waist. Buy 10mm celts/viking berserkers from some company, chop them in half at the waist. Glue and or pin the top halves of the satyrs onto the bottom halves of the Celts/vikings - viola - wardancers.
As 3rd stage could cut off satyrs' heads and replace with some elf or celt heads.
I wonder if Dacian infanty with falx could be converted/painted to make decent wardancers too.
EDIT: on second thoughts all that sounds like too much work - will just use some Pendraken barbarians from the fantasy range and maybe some Dacian falxmen and put on celtic and American Indian style hair-dos with some green putty.
P.S This is NOT me cancelling my vote for the wood elf figures in the other thread
It's a pity to check like twice a week if there is any change in the chaos range of pendraken... don't forget the fantasy adepts!!
dont worry, for if we continue to post and keep this thread alive, one day, one day that's not too far from today, pendraken shall make chaos warriors, and they shall be awesome, for unlike some companies, pendraken gives a damn about its customers wants. :D
I still... have some hope to see this for 2012 ;)
I'm still playing with a test piece.....But you can't see him yet as his sword really DOES look like a banana at the mo'...and he's only about two thirds done... ;)
Cheers - Phil
QuoteI'm still playing with a test piece.....But you can't see him yet as his sword really DOES look like a banana at the mo'...and he's only about two thirds done... Wink
Cheers - Phil
hurray - thanks for starting it!
Agreed - looking forward to some pics at some point Phil ;)
Quote from: Techno on 30 January 2012, 08:43:51 PM
I'm still playing with a test piece.....But you can't see him yet as his sword really DOES look like a banana at the mo'...and he's only about two thirds done... ;)
Cheers - Phil
Wooh good! I'm going to subscribe to this thread :)
What shall we expect? Armoured with big weapons? :D spikes, skulls, anything that would cause insane fear? Heheh
I'll try and neaten up his sword....Then I can at least post a Wip..... ;)
But I've really got to press on with other pieces at the moment....Sorry....See what I can do though.
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 31 January 2012, 08:26:20 AM
I'll try and neaten up his sword....Then I can at least post a Wip..... ;)
But I've really got to press on with other pieces at the moment....Sorry....See what I can do though.
Cheers - Phil
I'll be waiting to see that WIP :) thanks for posting in here
Hopefully not too long kerath....But it'll only be about two thirds done by the time I get a chance to take a piccy !.....
Cheers - Phil.
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4240.jpg)
Not a very good pic (as usual...HAH !)
But from L/R....The original 'Colin'.....The new Colin (needing some cleaning up)...and a couple of early Wips of new Falkland's troops for scaling.
Can't see me ever doing any more to Colin Mk 1......Time for the circular file ! ;D ;D ;D.....Hey Ho ! ;)
Cheers - Phil
Big and mean, I like it, especially the armour. I hope you'll make some other with human face?
Excellent Phil :-bd
Cheers,
Kev
Thumbs UP!!! :-bd
Quote from: blacksmith on 01 March 2012, 05:10:55 PM
Big and mean, I like it, especially the armour. I hope you'll make some other with human face?
With all of the other stuff still to do...I'll probably do some quick conversions on this particular chappie before I try and make a completely 'fresh' figure.
Bit of a cop out I know....But it means more variations at a faster pace....If that makes sense.
Glad you all like it.(So far ;))...Thanks guys !
Cheers - Phil.
Like it Phil - I'd like some more with human faces & less daemonic appendages too...just pure evil human Chaotic bastardry :d :D :d
Quote from: nikharwood on 01 March 2012, 07:48:56 PM
Like it Phil - I'd like some more with human faces & less daemonic appendages too...just pure evil human Chaotic bastardry :d :D :d
Exactly!
Cool, looks just ready for a Doctor Who episode!!
Evil knights would be cool, rather than strange Chaotic mutations
Your wish....... ;)
I'll see what I can come up with.
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 01 March 2012, 03:54:23 PM
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4240.jpg)
and a couple of early Wips of new Falkland's troops for scaling.
Back on a favourite topic... ;) Falklands - really looking forward to these later this year.
The figure third from left in the photo - beret overhang is HUGE. Only STAB's would have this much hanging below the ear. Looks a bit odd (sorry)
Hi Nosher.
The Falklands 'bods' in the pic are still very much Wips.....Of the ones on the go at the mo', I know I'm going to have to tweak the berets....they're almost all on the overlarge side....especially the one you've spotted.
Don't worry.....They'll look much better when they're finished..(Nurse...scalpel and glass paper please ;))..I only put them there to show how much bigger Colin was than the 'normal' human.
Cheers - Phil.
I like the fig! But I have to suscribe that human faces or helmet-covered faces for chaos are better.
By the way, specially the legs you've modelled are just AWESOME
Face first I reckon...Much easier to convert that to a helm of some sort ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Yeah techno this bad dude seems great
Thanks 'J'.
Cheers - Phil
The man looks impressive !. I cann't wait to see his buddies as well . I would certainly buy some . Add my vote please .
Stuart
I've got a friend for Colin 'on the go'....But he's only a 'stick man' dolly at the mo'...so there's no point in posting a piccy just yet. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 13 March 2012, 09:50:30 AM
I've got a friend for Colin 'on the go'....But he's only a 'stick man' dolly at the mo'...so there's no point in posting a piccy just yet. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Tease... ;) :P
"I love my GW Chaos Warrior & Beastman army...I love it so much I'd like to replicate it in 10mm "
Unfortunately, I believe they are under the Chaos part of the Warmaster catalog on GW site. Which means you'll be paying through the nose for them.
Nicely done Chaos Warriors!
Quote from: nikharwood on 14 March 2012, 10:53:10 PM
Tease... ;) :P
No Nik....Honestly...He's just a stick man at present.....Surrounded by lots of Falkland's bods !..I
will post when there's something to see !
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Legate on 15 March 2012, 04:11:32 AM
"I love my GW Chaos Warrior & Beastman army...I love it so much I'd like to replicate it in 10mm "
Unfortunately, I believe they are under the Chaos part of the Warmaster catalog on GW site. Which means you'll be paying through the nose for them.
Ah you misunderstand me - I mean that I want Pendraken chaos loveliness, not that over-priced, over-spiked GW stuff
Quote from: Techno on 15 March 2012, 07:55:06 AM
No Nik....Honestly...He's just a stick man at present.....Surrounded by lots of Falkland's bods !..I will post when there's something to see !
Cheers - Phil
Ah well - at least he's in good company 8)
you could call them undead lords , or something similar ?.
Stuart
or:
=>totally insane nightmare-fighters of the barren wastes :d
I'm quite fond of how I described them earlier in this thread :d
Quote from: nikharwood on 01 March 2012, 07:48:56 PM
...just pure evil human Chaotic bastardry :d :D :d
Did anything come of that model?
Yup !
I've taken his crab claw off and given him a 'normal arm'.
At the mo' he's just sitting on the desk getting covered in dust and cat fur. ;D ;D
Falkland's bods have taken priority for now.
Cheers - Phil
So if I wanted to place an order, would it be possible (good move taking the claw off! I imagine a unit with crab claws looking odd)
He doesn't exist as a metal yet V.
But if Leon wants to press him....I'll send him up next week with all the other figures that are due to go.
Save him getting covered in yet more dust. ;D
Don't worry Leon...Same deal as Kiera and 'Jim' ;).....After all, I was just doing it as an experiment.
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks! Can we see a pic?
I'll try and pop one up a little later. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
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Here you go !
Only taken me five attempts to get this pic to stop taking up half a page ! >:( ;)
Cheers - Phil.
better iffen you'd left it at half a page, that piccy is tiny. :P
Quote from: Techno on 29 July 2012, 03:04:37 PM
Only taken me five attempts to get this pic to stop taking up half a page ! >:( ;)
If the pic is too big for the page, I can always make it smaller for you, that's no bother at all. I can't make a little pic bigger though unfortunately, as it just pixelates.
8)
I'll see if I can rescue one of the 'pre edited' pics, and bung it up to you direct Leon. :-[
Sorry Gordon...I HATE seeing the tiny chaps blown up way too big ! ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Just get it on man! Stop teasing =)
Fantastic looking sculpt, I think I'm going to use that guy as a wight though, he totally looks the part.
I've just sent that awfully nice Mr Leon a larger file than the one that was my own pathetic attempt. :-[
I've said it umpteen times before....Sometimes I can get photobucket to do what I want....Other times I almost lose the will to live ! ;)
Cheers - Mr Hopeless !
Have you tried sobbing and randomly hitting the keyboard with your forehead?
Or is that just me :-[
Quote from: republic of tolworth on 29 July 2012, 06:50:56 PM
Have you tried sobbing and randomly hitting the keyboard with your forehead?
Yes !!.....I also use very harsh language...That doesn't seem to work either !
And no...It's not just you ! :'( :'(
Cheers - Phil.
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Quote from: Leon on 29 July 2012, 06:58:45 PM
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Horny old b@$tard eh? ;) :d
Thanks for doing that Leon !!
What are you trying to say Nik ? ;) ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Cool figure! I can see that being used in a lot of different forces. Chaos and undead- also dungeons will need him!
Spot on! Thanks Tec/Leon
It looks mint! Perfect for a chaos/undead chapion/hero/lord
Infact... Ain't that him from heman?
Not supposed to be anything in particular V !
Just the way it turned out.
With a figure like 'Colin', I just make it up as I go along....Which is why he had a crab claw to start with....But that didn't 'look right', hence the change to a normal arm.
He's just a conglomeration of bits that I hoped would work OK l.
Cheers - Phil.
Very cool indeed Phil 8) Definitely has uses as a Wight with the skull face .... Perhaps a couple of variants with different helms and weapons :D
Cheers,
Kev
Quote from: Squirrel on 30 July 2012, 06:50:29 AM
Perhaps a couple of variants with different helms and weapons :D
Cheers,
Kev
That's the plan Kev... ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Great Mini! Please get it casted as soon as possible :)
You know...i really can't think of another manufacturer that does this sort of thing.
Punter: 'Hey' i'd kind of like X...'
Sculpter: *fiddlefiddlefiddle* 'How's that?'
Manufacturer: *adminadmincastcast* 'There you go punter'
Other punters: 'Oooh...me too please! And could you just do one with fish gills on?'
Sculpter: *fiddlefiddlefiddle*
Etc.
Ruddy marvellous chaps!
Well done to all concerned.
Nice genericevilbadguy dude too... :D
;)
(Fiddle, fiddle, fiddle.... ;D ;D ;D)
Cheers - Phil.
Techno-fiddle - a new folk music/dance craze?
Quote from: Sandinista on 03 August 2012, 03:30:15 PM
Techno-fiddle - a new folk music/dance craze?
Anything like Trance-Guitar?
8)
Hahaha - just found this:
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ? ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 03 August 2012, 03:48:12 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ? ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Happy Friday :D
Quote from: Techno on 03 August 2012, 03:48:12 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ? ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 03 August 2012, 03:48:12 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ? ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 03 August 2012, 03:48:12 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ? ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
I shouldn't have asked, should I ? ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.
Not on a Friday, no... :D
I like it, but its like a hero or something! I don't see it as a unit that you can use as a basic unit in an army :)
Quote from: kerath on 04 August 2012, 08:52:14 PM
I like it, but its like a hero or something! I don't see it as a unit that you can use as a basic unit in an army :)
Fair comment K, but it was intended to be more of a 'character' figure than a unit style chappie.
Perhaps a 'commander' of some sort ?
Might work a bit better when I've converted him a couple (or more) times ? ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Was thinking about putting some shield in the back to hide this part...
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Coool as! 8) Think you've 'nailed' it with that one! :P
my next army I guess..... :-\
Same here! Great stuff.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 August 2012, 07:36:34 PM
Coool as! 8) Think you've 'nailed' it with that one! :P
That's an
appalling pun Lemmey ! ;D ;D
A shield ? :-\.....I
think that would work OK.
Don't know how you work holding a
nail 'B'....Have you tried pushing the wire into a wine cork ? (Make a couple of pin holes first if you need to) Much more comfortable to push putty around holding that, than something as thin as a nail, I would have thought.
Great stuff !
Cheers - Phil.
These are long nails : 65 mm long.
I use champagne cork for 28 mm tough.
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I like these dudes
Very VERY nice ! :-bd =D>
Like them lots !
Shield has worked perfectly.
Cheers - Phil.
Very good, I like these
Me too - very nicely done 8)
Very nicely done Barbarian.
I especially like the axe dude, with his 'advancing like he means business' pose. :D
Hi all, I've just been into Pendraken's secret lab... (Just off the A66!) and my mate Ant piked up his tiny scale war hammer Dark elf army and I got my chaos mortal force.
I'm using European Late Medieval Knights on foot as my main warriors (with some random models for my command) and they look like the WHF 5th ed chaos warriors without the S***e looking hump they used to have. Although I do need to add the coffin lid shaped shields myself. I believe I'll use plasticised for this.
One unit will be chosen Nurlge so im going to green stuff bloated belly's and such on them.
My mounted knights are also European Late Medieval, who will also need shields.
I have, wooded chariots (leon, what are they from?) both will get warriors put on them and one will be pulled by giant rats an the other by some discussing looking slug things (I'm doing Nurlge)
Note to leon: They arrived in the post, thanks mate!
My Maraurders are just from the Barbarian range. I must say, the bezerkers... They have there c**ks out! I'm not shy but how can an enemy fight them? I couldn't fight a nude bloke... So it could be an advantage ;)
My furries are some sort of winged creature with a squid face, a very Nurlge looking furrie indeed.
Finally, my Sorcerer will be mounted on a Tenticled Bahemoth as a demonic mount.
I should get them glued this Sunday and I'll post some WIP pics.
Quote from: Vulpine on 09 August 2012, 08:24:10 PM
I have, wooded chariots (leon, what are they from?) both will get warriors put on them and one will be pulled by giant rats an the other by some discussing looking slug things (I'm doing Nurlge)
Note to leon: They arrived in the post, thanks mate!
Good to hear they arrived, the chariots are from the Goblin range, code FG5.
8)
Cool. Thanks!
You don't do some tiny little shield do you?
(I know this is a for a request for a different thread, but if you made a unit of Romans in Tortoise formation I would now be doing a 3rd system using your models!)
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Quote from: Vulpine on 09 August 2012, 08:43:58 PM
Cool. Thanks!
You don't do some tiny little shield do you?
(I know this is a for a request for a different thread, but if you made a unit of Romans in Tortoise formation I would now be doing a 3rd system using your models!)
I've got some bits and bobs hidden in various master moulds, I need to get them all cast up and stick them in a production mould.
Some more absolute beauties there Barbarian! =D>
Quote from: Luddite on 10 August 2012, 07:49:42 PM
Some more absolute beauties there Barbarian! =D>
Agreed, they are making me worry what mine will turn out like.
I'm still astounded by the way B makes his 'frame'.
Extremely effective though ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
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I'm ok at green stuff at 25mm, and I mean OK... But 10mm, and you sir are amazing. do you do this as just a hobby?
Blimey!
I might be accepting that proposal!! ( don't tell my wife ;) )
Thanks for posting the pictures !!!
Makes me looking for some wire and greenstuff.... :)
Fascinating - must admit I had no idea how the figures were created. Thank you very much for posting the sequence - we learn something every day on this forum!
Not satisfy with this one...Too nice to be a chaotic warrior ?
As for my sculpting, I'm trying to make a living of it.
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I must say, love the sculpting, very old school chaos of the GW kind! 8)
Are these going to be made and available?
I like a lot! Lovely animation to these!
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Any idea when they will be released?? :-\
These are excellent Fantasy Teutonic Knights... the weapons are a little on the large side though.
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/225/e/7/Teutonic_Knights_WIP_by_Ifckdyogurlfrend.jpg)
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1/101175-King_Teutonic1_super.jpg)
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Quote from: sebigboss79 on 14 August 2012, 06:32:15 PM
Any idea when they will be released?? :-\
We need to work out if they're for us first! Barbarian has done some bits and bobs for us previously, so we'll have a chat and see if we can work something out.
8)
Quote from: barbarian on 14 August 2012, 06:19:57 PM
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Daiklaive!!!!
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I hope they do go into production, they're great. I'd be happy to pre-order or pledge a minimum order on them if that helps. Maybe other people would be interested in doing the same?
Leon, you're a genius at naming things. :P
These are great 'dark templars'. Makes me want to dig out the old Slaves to Darkness for some 10mm warband action.
A couple on suitably deamonic steeds would also be good.
and keep the weapons big!
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Great figure, but my first impression of his weapon was that he is trying to open an umbrella.... :-\
Amazing mate, Amazing
Quote from: barbarian on 13 August 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Not satisfy with this one...Too nice to be a chaotic warrior ?
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Why not give him a pair of horns or an extra head? or even some other mutation. I reckon that will sort him out!
If you want to see me struggling with a ruler and a spotlight...
[youtube=640,480]nQZELt7R9DY[/youtube]
:D 8) :D
Amazing mate! You might not be able to spin webs, your weakness might not be a rear green rock, you may not have a experimental metal en-crusted Skelton, or a t-shirt with a incriminating skull on it.... I wager that you ain't even got lazer beam eyes or be blind all together... I bet if I wind you up you won't turn green and beat the hell out of me... However... In my eyes... Your still a hero!
Exaggeration. :-t
The head of the one with the squared blade is "strange", I may change it.
The odd strange one is good in a unit! How many are you doing? I would love a unit of 20 of these guys!
I'm currently at 6 finished.
I have a 10mm fant army now using med evil knights on foot etc. if Leon produced you guys they would make very nice chosen/heros . Oh! You should do some on horses... If I were you I'd get them moulded and then chop of at waist and convert a current horse with armoured legs.
Here we go, my work on a Nurglr chaos lord on chariot
First up, my chariots are going to be dragged by giant rats, but my lord something a little more... Icky
http://img19.imageshack.us/i/imagezjfux.jpg/
Now Im using the Tentical Bahenoth to drag the chariot, but having two identical tentacles would look odd so I removed the tale of one and will re sculpted my self.
http://img692.imageshack.us/i/imagelcr.jpg/
Now I've sculpted the tale back on and will place the chariot before doing my finishing touches
http://www.pendraken.co.uk/FB4-p4795/
Next the lord. I will start with the above and hopefully my skills with green stuff can do something half decent... So first go at 10mm putty...
http://img145.imageshack.us/i/imagetj.jpg/
I've made the helmet, added armour to the upper arms and legs and a large fur cloak to the original.
http://img191.imageshack.us/i/imageuxb.jpg/
http://img10.imageshack.us/i/imagevxi.jpg/
http://img585.imageshack.us/i/imageiivo.jpg/
Here's the chariot in place, Tenticals added and lord mounted
http://img560.imageshack.us/i/imagerrd.jpg/
While I'm imageShacking, hers the start of my knights, they (and my warriors in foot) just need the coffin lid style shields adding. Note: the horn made by cutting and bending a lance.
all very nice figures - barbarian (techno ?)'s and vulpine's
Barbarian - from your photos it looks like no soldering is required to model 10mm figures' wire frames and you just twisted wires together? Is that right or was soldering necessary and just not shown?
Vulpine....
That's going really nicely !
Dunnadd...
I'm not certain....But I doubt if many (any ?) designers do any actual soldering at this particular scale ;) :-\
But I'll be interested to hear Barbarian's answer.
I'm guessing that the majority of designers nowadays, would only use one solder spot (at most), and this to join 'hips/backboe to legs' on scales of 15mm upwards....Though I know a quite number of designers that don't even do that. (i.e no soldering at all).....Even on much bigger scales.
There are a few different methods of starting/making the original frame, before it becomes a 'mannequin', and I think we all have our particular favourite method.
It's what works easiest for the individual, I suppose.
I've only seen Barbarian's method of twisted wire used on much larger scale figures.
I'm guessing that he finds this the most comfortable way for himself.
Again, I'd be very interested to hear his comments.
It's always very fascinating to see/hear new techniques ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
I don't use any glue or soldering.
(Except to fix the structure to the base of sculpting, where I use glue as shown on pictures.)
I usually do this method for 28 mm with FIMO/Super Sclupey III as these won't glue to the wire by themselves. More precisely, they will, but ultimately, they will rotate when I'll push the paste on the limbs : You have to put a fine layer of Green stuff, then apply a fine layer of Fimo/Super Sculpey while the Green stuff is "wet".
On the other hands, I know someone who does everything with green stuff without any wire or frame (Gaëlle Goumont), and he is really talented. I can't understand how he does it. (He maid this
I know another who have casts of heads, feet and hands, who used them with wire, then use exclusively Milliput resculpted when dried. (he works in 54 mm and taller) (Adriano Laruccia - Portfolio http://www.lugdunum-figurines.com/site/spip.php?article105)
Another one sculpt with Lead (yes Lead !) and soldering iron in 54 mm. (Bruno Leibovitz from Metal models...)
My armatures are copied on the method of former Rackham's sculptors...Cyril Abati, Michaël Bigaud...)
Yann
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Those wings! In 10mm wow! 8) :o
I say we should ban Barbarian from the forum. He's making us all look stupid... Smart ass ;)
No, I'm hoping he's showing us Pendraken's new Chaos range, I want it and I want it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
correct me if i'm wrong but those wings look like they'll be too thin to mould and cast.
Also what height are the chaos warriors in the vid they look like spot on 10mm isn't most of the Pendraken fantasy range knocking on 12mm? Chaos warriors have to be a bit bigger than the usual humans.
I do really love the sculpts though
I must make these wings thicker. Also, I don't like the "fingers" of the Erynie, I must redo them.
BTW, she is 11 mm tall with the "base".
Dark Templars are between 11 and 12 mm without horns and are taller than Pendraken's humans... (At least the ones I have, mainly WWII)
;)
The fantasy ranges are noticably bigger
...don't know about that. Guess we could get around the problem providing thicker bases (I'm talking about the individual bases) ?
I'm doing the second Erynie, would you prefer a flying pose (with the need to attach it to a piano string) or a howling pose ?
Quote from: GordonY on 20 August 2012, 06:40:36 PM
The fantasy ranges are noticably bigger
I posted a load of height comparison pictures on page 4 of this thread. I'll quote them here for convenience:
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 17 September 2011, 09:43:13 PM
This one is the best I can remember from my previous searches (from http://ewigeheld.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/10mm-pendraken-miniatures-fantasy/heroes_1/ )
(http://ewigeheld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/heroes_1.jpg?w=949)
Most of the figures are historical, however the two guys in cloaks are wood elves and the two bare armed/chested guys are barbarians. The striking thing is how much taller the elves look than the figure with the blue staff even though they are behind him.
Although these are all fantasy, the barbarian chieftain at the top of the stairs is closer to the historic scale than the others. His head only comes up to the shoulders of the barbarian swordsman on the bottom right of the picture.
(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l602/Meirion_Hopkins/10mm%20Minis/P1010116a.jpg)
Whilst searching for images I found my own comment on the subject (with the photo below) in this thread: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2848.0
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The skeleton far left is Pendraken fantasy, whilst the wizard is Merlin from ARL18 Late Roman Personalities. (From http://aportodos.mforos.com/1354550/7782193-10mm-pendraken-vs-kallistra/ )
Since I've just orderd a couple, it would seem that the second skeleton from the left is the Pendraken Undead Hero.
Hope this is of some help to someone!
Cheers,
Meirion
Thanks for the info Barbarian - i'd been thinking of modelling figures but memories of trying to solder wire frames together when i tried once when i was much younger were putting me off. The fimo thing is very interesting too. Do you mean that if you use green stuff, then fimo, you can sculpt a limb but change the position / shape of it, even when it's hardened? Or am i misunderstanding?
No, you cannot.
Fimo need to be cooked. You can work on it, finished your piece, then cook.
Green stuff is only to let the Fimo glue to the structure.
But Fimo need a low temp mould, which add to the cost of the miniature.
Ah right - thanks barbarian
Techno - also thanks very much for all the info - i got confused at some point and thought that you had changed your board name to barbarian rather than barbarian being someone else
Crapy photo.
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Better upload ?
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Leon: Please make a deal with this guy for his masters! Please
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Now that is a definite "must have", excellent work!!
Fantastic!
QuoteNot satisfy with this one...Too nice to be a chaotic warrior ?
change his axe to a hammer or mace and he'd make a great warrior priest / cleric to fight against the chaos warriors
also i like all the chaos warrior greens, but the musician and standard bearer are maybe my favourites because you rarely get a good musician or standard on 10mm
Oh yes - liking those 8)
Quote from: Kiwidave on 15 August 2012, 12:26:05 PM
Great figure, but my first impression of his weapon was that he is trying to open an umbrella.... :-\
Late poster to the thread - cant beleive I missed it?
Reveiwing the potential range looks really encouraging but KD took the words out of my mouth a month or so ago! Why do Chaos have to do everything bigger and badder??? Cos they can ;) ;D :D ;)
Personally, as a rather chaotic chap myself, i've always marvelled at how Chaos armies:
a. manage to formulate a battle plan
b. manage to get it together to make effective arms and armour all covered in skulls ans spikes
c. manage to get all the chaps in the right place, at the right time, formed in nice neat regiments, all pointing in the right direction
d. manage to implement said battle plan in order to win battles
;D
That always seemd rather too well ordered to me!
Surely a Chaos army would basically be 6 chaps who've turned up to the wrong field on the wrong day in their pyjamas?
:D
In any case, LOVING your work Barbarian. Might have to make my next Hordes of the Things army rather chaotic. ;)
Barbarian excellent work, great indeed A+++
Excellent work on that horse armour 8) loving the rest as well of course!
Cheers,
Kev
Barbarian, you have done it again! That horse is ace! It's not a bad idia to have separate riders who can slot into that horse.
Lud, I think it's almost the same a Orcs, the biggest baddest leader and his tribe tell the other tribes what to do and when. Armour wise, steal and raid it from other races and add spikes!
8)
:o
That's 10mm! :o I've seen less detailed 28mms... :D
Not a fan of the GW 'chaos' concept, but Leon, you need these models in your range! ;) They are going to sell like hot-cakes! :d
Yes, exceptional work. =D>
love all of these - really hoping to see them come out as a Pendraken range
QuotePersonally, as a rather chaotic chap myself, i've always marvelled at how Chaos armies:
a. manage to formulate a battle plan
b. manage to get it together to make effective arms and armour all covered in skulls ans spikes
c. manage to get all the chaps in the right place, at the right time, formed in nice neat regiments, all pointing in the right direction
d. manage to implement said battle plan in order to win battles
Grin
That always seemd rather too well ordered to me!
yes - there's a definite order within chaos paradox there.
In GW's Warhammer world it seems to be meant to be the will of demons and demon princes who are the patrons of the leaders of the armies who keep them in line through a mixture of fear and promises of greater power, with the power they give to chaos champions letting them keep the mass of the army in line, but i don't think they should be capable of forming ordered lines and holding back or carrying out flanking actions or redeployments once the enemy is in sight
The four main chaos gods and the paired enmities between some of them add interest, but also make chaos armies seem a bit too ordered and predictable
Moorcock's version of chaos was much more disordered with the lords of chaos' armies attacking in complete disorder, but supported by massive magical power and chaos' devolving everyone and everything they met into mutants or swirling primordial matter
Me and my brothers use our own rules and army lists and i'm planning on making chaos armies very difficult to control - what they have in strength, high morale and power will be balanced out by them being very hard to hold back from just attacking the nearest enemies immediately at both the strategic and tactical level
Quote from: Dunnadd on 19 September 2012, 01:13:28 AM
Me and my brothers use our own rules and army lists and i'm planning on making chaos armies very difficult to control - what they have in strength, high morale and power will be balanced out by them being very hard to hold back from just attacking the nearest enemies immediately at both the strategic and tactical level
Aye, interestingly the old DBM rules would model this perfectly.
Commanders - Irregular and Allied
Chaos Warrios
Blades (fast, superior)
(makes them impetuous and given to advancing without orders in a rabble, unless controlled and held back)
Chaos Marauders
Warband (fast, ordinary)
(makes them impetuous and given to advancing without orders in a rabble, unless controlled and held back)
Mix in the fantasy troop types from Hordes of the Things and you have a great set of rules for a not-WHFB game.
I wanted to make a Chaotic hound, but made a Wolf with a big head...
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Still an extremely cool figure! 8)
Really impressive. I hope to grab the chaos warriors and ther "pet" soon. Great sculpting.
Great animation in the wolf 'B'...Spot on !
Cheers - Phil.
Nice...in a snarly, rip-your-throat-out-soon-as-look-at-you kind of way :d 8)
There's a real 'Amreican Werewolf in London' vibe about that little pooch.
So good! :d
What I'm working on...
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You're such a tease ;) ;D
Quote from: nikharwood on 30 September 2012, 10:44:25 PM
You're such a tease ;) ;D
Your right, page 17 and it feels like the blouses ain't even off yet!
Not that keen on the hound (though doubtless better than anything i could model) but i definitely like the rest
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Troll : I intend to do another set of arms and head.
Chariot : Just the place to put any of the warriors on foot on the Chariot. I'm doing a pole with a flag and some shields. May add some blades on the wheels.
I made it voluntarily generic, to use it in another contest.
By the way the horses are based on an image of Wikipedia and are historical too and can therefore be used in another range.
Coolio!
8)
??? Now your just showing off
Excellent - loving that giant :d
Beautiful!
When are we going to see these for purchase? ~X(
Quote from: Luddite on 08 October 2012, 09:46:59 PM
Beautiful!
When are we going to see these for purchase? ~X(
When someone buys the sculpts and moulds them up...! ;)
What about the wheel bolts? Can they be fine tuned? :-\
Yeah...Wheels are ugly...I'm working on it. ;)
The "big one" is stunning. Barbarian I' m following your range project with great interest. Really great sculptings.
Same body
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Nicely done 8)
Very nice chariot and charioteer.
I like the two troll /giant variants too , but how about making their weapons a bit more believable in size? The blades / heads of the weapons look far, far too big - nothing could swing something that size relative to their own size. Would look much better with weapons that were more to scale.
Quote from: Dunnadd on 19 October 2012, 07:41:32 PM
Very nice chariot and charioteer.
I like the two troll /giant variants too , but how about making their weapons a bit more believable in size? The blades / heads of the weapons look far, far too big - nothing could swing something that size relative to their own size. Would look much better with weapons that were more to scale.
Have to second that one, same with some of the earlier weapons too. Great work, very nice sculpts, just not a fan of the physics-defying accoutrements! (I know, even though it's fantasy :o ;) )
Cheers!
Meirion
Cor these are fun, and there is me trying not to be distracted by fantasy stuff
Anything new Barb?
Yep. I remade the wheels of the chariot.
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The big question Barbarian, is what your plans are with these lovely minis?
Are you releasing them, or is someone else doing it?
I just wish you didn't keep teasing us with them...... ;D
Wow!
Very good, I like these a lot
I'm not given to hyperbole, but these are AMAZING!!! :D :D :D
First of all my very best congratulation for your scultps, they are superb.
Also :
Quote from: i_am_win on 11 December 2012, 01:24:53 PM
The big question Barbarian, is what your plans are with these lovely minis?
Are you releasing them, or is someone else doing it?
Fantastic mate, fantastic...
You getting Pendraken to make them into a mould?
Everything here should fot into one mould! It wouldn't be costly and I bet a few people would like to buy a copy of these.. I would!
It's in "pourparlers". ;)
I'm pleased to announce that I've made a deal with Pendraken for this set of miniatures. 8)
8) ;D
Great!
I don't need these at all but wil be ordering lots anyway :D
Lovely sculpts
I wish I saw more marauders than warriors but anyway, can I pre order them? :D
Quote from: barbarian on 04 February 2013, 10:07:54 AM
I'm pleased to announce that I've made a deal with Pendraken for this set of miniatures. 8)
I'm also pleased to announce that I'll be starting a Pendraken chaotic fantasy battle force. I'm lost.
Quote from: kerath on 09 February 2013, 10:58:56 PM
I'm also pleased to announce that I'll be starting a Pendraken chaotic fantasy battle force. I'm lost.
You and me both :d :d :d
The lost and the damned :D
Sure that name was a gw quote, or did meatloaf get there first? ;D
Quote
I'm also pleased to announce that I'll be starting a Pendraken chaotic fantasy battle force. I'm lost.
I'm joining kerath and nik! You can be sure that it won't be long after release that you'll be seeing these in a game of MAYHEM. ;) Fantastic work barbarian!
God damn those are some nice 10mm fantasy figures. When will they be available for the buying?
We're not sure at the moment. The figures have arrived here, but they are a little small compared to the other Fantasy ranges. We'd be interested to hear what people think?
With some Fantasy:
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With some Fantasy and regular historical:
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I like them, but they are a bit smaller than I was expecting! :o
I'm sure they'll be lovely ranked up together with a good paintjob though!
They do look a touch small - but they do look very nice and detailed.
The fantasy range is rather big - so comparison with the human ranges is probably more appropriate.
Bummer but it wouldn't put me off buying them as they are lovely models.
One solution - Barbarian to resculpt the entire fantasy range :D
Chaos Knights on heavy armour are taller and wider than average human. They are too small for me. I won't buy them in that size.
Quote from: blacksmith on 06 March 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Chaos Knights on heavy armour are taller and wider than average human. They are too small for me. I won't buy them in that size.
Yep - 'fraid so :(
At this size, these would look positively daft alongside my Wood Elves & Gobbos...
They are indeed to small.
No possibility to cast em up and sell as chaos dwarfs? Or are they too thin for that?
I would buy them without doubt :)
I use a lot of Historic range figures, and can mix well for me.
Fantasy figures are bigger, but painted over the game table can work. In fact I mix them with historical for gaming.... ;)
I see only one possible solution, revamp the entire fantasy range to 'real' 10 mm scale :D
Various things to consider :
-The integrated bases are much thinner on my models. (The orc would be the average same heigh as my warriors).
-The range is consistent.
-They are taller than humans of a well known brand.
The only historical minis I own from Pendraken are Late Romans, and the Warriors are a bit taller (but thinner) than this range.
Great sculpts but WAY too small.
I'd wouldn't buy them.
Shame really they looked really promising. :(
Quote from: Luddite on 06 March 2013, 11:34:26 PM
Great sculpts but WAY too small.
I'd wouldn't buy them.
Shame really they looked really promising. :(
Yeah, after so much waiting and expectation. A pity.
I'm sorry if I've failed you.
Some size comp where I tried to put the heels on the same line.
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I don't think they're that small - a lot of Pendraken's 10mm fantasy figures are closer to 15mm than 10mm. I'd definitely buy some. They might be even better if they were a bit bigger but the quality is great and the size is within an acceptable range.
I think the figures are beautiful but too small, that's all.
For me a Chaos knight must tower one head or more over mere mortals and be twice as thick. I cannot field a unit of chaos knights smaller than goblins, sorry but I'm not interested any more; and it's a pity I said, because I loved those miniis and I badly wanted, but not in that size.
Best of luck.
just wondering how they would compare to GW models as people would be buyng these for Warmaster mostly? Are you looking at revamping the fantasy range anyway?
another possibilty is something we can do in the jewellery trade to add weight, not sure if it would work in this case though. Make your initial master moulds then with the metal castings you have, apply layer after layer of plating. This should bulk the models out without too much loss of detail.
or Barbarian to resculpt
I think they would look good for an evil human army but not chaos
Heck, I'd buy them, they're humans who worship the chaos lords, who says you have to bulk up once you sign up with the dark powers?
Always hated the way GW did that...
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 March 2013, 01:03:58 PM
Heck, I'd buy them, they're humans who worship the chaos lords, who says you have to bulk up once you sign up with the dark powers?
I agree, my plan is to have a mixture of humanoids and mishapen beasts of chaos. So these would fit the bill nicely :)
My interpretation of Chaos armies from Moorcock's books is light years away from the GW style
How do they compare size wise to the beastmen/haedeous men? :-\
Quote from: Sandinista on 07 March 2013, 05:31:22 PM
My interpretation of Chaos armies from Moorcock's books is light years away from the GW style
There is Chaos troops that arent GW...Surely not, I wonder when GW lawyers will have a go at the Moorcock estate?
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 March 2013, 05:39:35 PM
How do they compare size wise to the beastmen/haedeous men? :-\
Smaller I hope or I won't be buying the beastmen/haedeous men
Quote from: barbarian on 06 March 2013, 11:22:49 PM
Various things to consider :
-The integrated bases are much thinner on my models. (The orc would be the average same heigh as my warriors).
-The range is consistent.
-They are taller than humans of a well known brand.
The only historical minis I own from Pendraken are Late Romans, and the Warriors are a bit taller (but thinner) than this range.
Yes, but as has been said several times before, the Fantasy ranges are usually taller than the Pendraken historicals. Getting a few samples from Leon might have helped here, the first time this was mentioned? I'm sure he would have helped with that right away.
I still think these are superb sculpts, they just do not generally match with Pendraken's fantasy ranges. But part of that is due to the thinner base, as you point out. Also, I believe that there are some sculpts (harpies? giant?) where the size difference won't matter much. So all together I have mixed feelings about these right now. :-\
Right, bases are thinner.
Being these the masters, I am wondering if when producing the moulds, moulds and final figures to be sold will be slightly bigger than the masters, is that right?
I am afraid that is not going to enlarge the figures very much ;) , just wondering if that is noticeable puting together a master and a final figure-
Quote from: barbarian on 07 March 2013, 12:37:52 AM
I'm sorry if I've failed you.
I don't feel you have failed anybody. They are your own figures, made initially for your personal use, and the sculping is first class, you should be really proud of them!! :-bd
IMO if they are 10mm scale I think they could be produced by Pendraken, even being smaller than other Fantasy Figures of Pendraken.
Quote from: Edmund2011 on 07 March 2013, 09:01:45 PM
Being these the masters, I am wondering if when producing the moulds, moulds and final figures to be sold will be slightly bigger than the masters, is that right?
Tends to be the other way round Edmond.
The final production figure will normally be a
tiny bit smaller/thinner (but only
front to back.....NOT head to toe).
At this scale the 'reduction' is pretty minute though.
Cheers - Phil.
Thanks Phil, didn't know that!
Quote from: OldenBUA on 07 March 2013, 08:17:21 PM
Yes, but as has been said several times before, the Fantasy ranges are usually taller than the Pendraken historicals. Getting a few samples from Leon might have helped here, the first time this was mentioned? I'm sure he would have helped with that right away.
I prefer real 10mm. But that's a matter of taste.
I must say I've started to sculpt these without saying anything to Leon and didn't know at the time I would try to sell these. I just had a look at the top requests and tell me "Why don't you give a go on this one ?"
I worked with figures of the leader on the market (the Renaissance inspired ones) nearby.
In the end I hope people who are reluctant to buy these would give them a chance (maybe a sample pack) ?
For me, the size is great, as they fit nicely with your historic ranges and the fantasy ranges of other suppliers that shall not be named.
For me the sieze is good! I will purchase them.
Quote from: blacksmith on 07 March 2013, 11:21:04 AM
I think the figures are beautiful but too small, that's all.
For me a Chaos knight must tower one head or more over mere mortals and be twice as thick. I cannot field a unit of chaos knights smaller than goblins, sorry but I'm not interested any more; and it's a pity I said, because I loved those miniis and I badly wanted, but not in that size.
Best of luck.
I share the same opinion :'(
Hi Barbarian, as much as I can understand the disappointment from a few, I think your sculpts deserve producing, very nice, distinctive, and should menace many an opponent,
Out of curiosity, as I'm fairly new to sculpting, how difficult might it be to raise the bases by a millimetre or so? It won't address any issue with bulk of course but it could make all the difference in winning over some people. Whatever, I hope these go metal somehow.
Regards, Rob.
Fairly easy.
Barbarian, if you started these as a bit of fun, then the only person you really have to satisfy is yourself (a commission is different of course). So if you like them, and they suit what you wanted to use them for don't change anything.
If you go on to do more fantasy stuff you could always make the next figures you do a bit bigger and then return to these after a while and do bigger versions (there's nothing more disheartening than having to sculpt again figures you've just finished).
For what its worth I think they are lovely figures, there's a fineness to the detail which is hard to achieve. If they are a bit small that only emphasises the quality of the work to me. A couple of mm makes a big difference at this scale, its much harder to pack that much detail into a 10mm figure as opposed to a 11 or 12mm one.
Agreed Clib.
They're superb quality and had a lot of us itching to get our hands on them.
Some still are. For me though...just that bit too small and not bulky enough.
:(
If we killed everyone that thought they're too small then customer satisfaction percentages would rise and future complaints likely fall by a significant level. I'm not saying that's definitely what we should do - it's just one option to consider.
Is there any date for the release of the chaotic horde?
a beautiful general could be one sitting on a throne, with some bodyguards with hounds or wolfs around the throne... just an idea... :)
can't wait to expand my chaos army with those beauties 8)
At the moment these won't be produced by Pendraken I'm afraid. They're just that little bit too small to fit with the our other Fantasy ranges, and it would lead to complaints from people who bought them with any other figures.
The figures themselves are awesome though, especially in the flesh. We'll have a chat with Barbarian and see if there's any other options to bring these to market.
8)
Aye, its a real shame that Leon. They're lovely sculpts, just off scale. :(
Keep us informed as to any suucess B has with getting these into production as the size would not be an issue for me
Quote from: Sandinista on 24 March 2013, 11:14:49 AM
Keep us informed as to any suucess B has with getting these into production as the size would not be an issue for me
Yes please, ;)
Quote from: Sandinista on 24 March 2013, 11:14:49 AM
Keep us informed as to any suucess B has with getting these into production as the size would not be an issue for me
Quote from: Edmund2011 on 24 March 2013, 05:47:55 PM
Yes please, ;)
Will do, we're going to help Barbarian out as much as we can, as the quality of the sculpting certainly deserves it.
8)
Quote from: Leon on 24 March 2013, 07:19:58 PM
Will do, we're going to help Barbarian out as much as we can, as the quality of the sculpting certainly deserves it.
8)
Thumbs up to that!
Quality's superb. :D
After size comparison I can only say.... LOL I'm still excited with this project :d I love them!
Quote from: barbarian on 07 March 2013, 12:37:52 AM
I'm sorry if I've failed you.
I'm going to send an e-punch to your face for such a comment.
With texturized bases and painted they will look just great. And the size, taking into account the comparison, in my opinion won't matter that much ingame, because armies will be homogeneous. And I like the detail and style.
Would the company seriously take into account to close this request at this point? I think barbarian won't resculpt everything the same/slightly different to fullfill this (if he does.. well, ofc is also good, will reach more market) but I consider the quality of them superb, really worth it.
I'm considering using a platform of crowdfunding such as Indiegogo to produce these.
I'm planning how to set rewards and prizing to be "realistic" for the backers and for me : this is not easy but basically, I'd prefer to stay on the kind of prizing Pendraken does.
I have already other sculpts to throw in in case the funding would succeed.
I'm in the writing process of a video too, as it seems to help a lot on these projects.
I'll get back to you as soon I have fresh news.
Hey barbarian, if you do it count on me to buy some figures!
I don't understand this method, barbarian. So going to Indiegogo will mean that your models won't be able to be bought from Pendraken? Well, I will still buy mine xD And I also would love to see your work in Pendraken shopping basket.
Hi,
In case it is of interest, I saw on TMP that the evil men are now on Indiegogo: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/evil-men-fantasy-10mm-miniatures I hope it is ok to post the link here. Would be nice if the chariots could be unlocked
I will be donating to this though i can't afford to donate a huge amount.
Guess who will be doing the casting ? :D
Chipped in, too good to miss!
I'm in on these too. They look great, and the latest additions look really good.
I hope it is someone skilled with casting and veeery related to this forum... 8)
Quote from: barbarian on 20 February 2014, 09:53:33 AM
Guess who will be doing the casting ? :D
Just picked up an email to say an extra 48 hours has been added to the KS, if anyone is still considering joining in.
As well as Laran miniatures' Evil Men, there are also Trolls Under The Bridge who do some very nice 10mm chaos figures, though not nearly as wide a range