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Title: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: Corso on 17 January 2025, 05:59:28 PM
 :D

While I wait for the Goth release I thought I'd restart my 6mm Pocket Dungeon project

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 January 2025, 09:32:59 PM
Ohh very nice
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Post by: paulr on 18 January 2025, 08:53:30 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: Corso on 18 January 2025, 11:32:19 AM
Couple more

Havn't decided how to base the yet

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 January 2025, 12:20:35 PM
Lovely
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Post by: paulr on 19 January 2025, 07:59:45 AM
:-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd

I'd be inclined to fairly simple basing so as not to distract from the figures
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Post by: Corso on 19 January 2025, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: paulr on 19 January 2025, 07:59:45 AM:-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd

I'd be inclined to fairly simple basing so as not to distract from the figures

I will probably use some light fine sand but I wasn't sure what size or material to use but now have a plan :)

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Post by: Ithoriel on 19 January 2025, 11:28:30 AM
I use chinchilla dust for the bases of my really small stuff as it has very fine grains.
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Post by: mollinary on 19 January 2025, 01:07:06 PM

QuoteCouple more

Havn't decided how to base the yet

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I can thoroughly recommend Pete Berry's Baccus basing system. Over the last 20years  I have rebased all my 15mm, 10mm and 6mm collections using it, and am entirely satisfied with the results. It is easy to use, and produces consistent results every time. And it also helps the business of another one of the good guys!
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Post by: Corso on 19 January 2025, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 19 January 2025, 01:07:06 PMI can thoroughly recommend Pete Berry's Baccus basing system. Over the last 20years  I have rebased all my 15mm, 10mm and 6mm collections using it, and am entirely satisfied with the results. It is easy to use, and produces consistent results every time. And it also helps the business of another one of the good guys!


Didn't think Baccus single based minis. I thought they were more into battle formations?

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Post by: mollinary on 19 January 2025, 01:58:00 PM
QuoteDidn't think Baccus single based minis. I thought they were more into battle formations?


Have a look at their website. The BBS set costs about £22, and contains all you need (fine sand, flock, 3 types of paint, PVA glue, and foundation wash)  to base loads of figures. You can use it to base figures en masse, or individually. The concept is simple, but very elegant. If you follow Pendraken Miniatures on Facebook Leon posted pictures last Monday13th  of my 1066 Anglo-Saxons, who are all based using this system. I have based loads of command stands using it, often with only a single figure on them, as well as many individual casualty figures.
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Post by: Corso on 19 January 2025, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 19 January 2025, 01:58:00 PMHave a look at their website. The BBS set costs about £22, and contains all you need (fine sand, flock, 3 types of paint, PVA glue, and foundation wash)  to base loads of figures. You can use it to base figures en masse, or individually. The concept is simple, but very elegant. If you follow Pendraken Miniatures on Facebook Leon posted pictures last Monday13th  of my 1066 Anglo-Saxons, who are all based using this system. I have based loads of command stands using it, often with only a single figure on them, as well as many individual casualty figures.

Thanks,I'll take a look but it's not really the finish I'm debating  but rather if I go mdf,metal,plastic or something else for the bases
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Post by: Corso on 19 January 2025, 03:26:55 PM
Found a couple of old 10mm figures that should fit in as larger monsters

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Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: mollinary on 19 January 2025, 03:35:34 PM

QuoteThanks,I'll take a look but it's not really the finish I'm debating  but rather if I go mdf,metal,plastic or something else for the bases
Fair enough, my misunderstanding! Personally, I tend to go mdf for individual or small numbers of figures. Haven't used plastic for years, found it prone to both warping and becoming brittle. 
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Post by: Corso on 19 January 2025, 04:43:52 PM
No worries, I generally use mdf too, with a magnet for 15mm scale or less

Might try something different with 6mm though
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Post by: mollinary on 19 January 2025, 04:54:30 PM

QuoteNo worries, I generally use mdf too, with a magnet for 15mm scale or less

Might try something different with 6mm though
By the way, great painting!
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 January 2025, 12:55:45 PM
Good beasts
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Post by: Corso on 22 January 2025, 08:24:54 PM
Bases settle

1mm thick 10mm magnets for infantry and  humanoid monsters

15mm for monsters and cavalry and hordes

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Post by: Corso on 25 January 2025, 01:52:36 PM
Thanks all

A few updates of monsters and markers

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Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: paulr on 25 January 2025, 11:26:11 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: Corso on 02 February 2025, 01:19:34 PM
While I wait for my microworld order I'm working on more scatter terrain

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 February 2025, 02:56:49 PM
Very atmospheric
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Post by: paulr on 06 February 2025, 08:05:25 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: Corso on 06 February 2025, 11:58:33 AM
First of the microworld batch of antagonists

Ratmen and Undead

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 February 2025, 03:37:37 PM
Cuuuuuute
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Post by: O Dinas Powys on 06 February 2025, 04:42:35 PM
You're insane!  8-}
Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 06 February 2025, 04:42:53 PM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 06 February 2025, 04:42:35 PMYou're insane!  8-}

...but in the good way  :-bd
Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: Corso on 06 February 2025, 04:57:39 PM
 :D

What's a dungeon without treasure

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Post by: paulr on 06 February 2025, 11:06:20 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: Corso on 07 February 2025, 07:47:26 AM
The beauty of the terrain pieces is they will all be useful for 10mm gaming too when dungeon world gets a re-release I can continue with that project
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 February 2025, 10:29:05 PM
Nice stuff
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Post by: Corso on 10 February 2025, 04:44:15 PM
Not been up to much, picked up a couple of taster packs from Baccus

Vikings and Fantasy

The vikings are a bit small but the Fantasy fit well

The Dwarf hero with added shield

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Post by: Corso on 11 February 2025, 12:17:11 PM
More terrain work while I wait for minis

Dungeon Door prototype

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Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: paulr on 13 February 2025, 07:59:45 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: 10mm's way too big for skirmish games...
Post by: Corso on 14 February 2025, 06:57:47 PM
Knocked up the terrain board

Converted from a magnetic chess board

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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/16577-140225185443.jpeg)

I think I will end up making another so I have one for dungeon crawls and the other for outdoor adventures

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 February 2025, 07:01:02 PM
Clever idea
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Post by: paulr on 14 February 2025, 07:14:30 PM
Very clever idea  :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>
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Post by: Corso on 14 February 2025, 08:45:03 PM
The inside will also hold magnetics, planning to get a small tin for the miniatures as added protection. It should still have enough room for some terrain and a set of sellsword cards I'm planning to put together.

I'm on the hunt for some leven terrain in particular the viking range 
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Post by: Corso on 15 February 2025, 06:33:30 PM
I've made a few of these armoury racks but this ones definitely the smallest  :D

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/16577-150225183028-650881090.jpeg)

Probably closer to 10mm scale but it fits in well with the other dungeon bits I've knocked up

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/16577-150225183028-650891467.jpeg)
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Post by: paulr on 16 February 2025, 03:19:01 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 February 2025, 05:49:45 PM
Cool
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Post by: Corso on 20 February 2025, 08:29:33 PM
Added some perfect6 Orcs

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Post by: Last Hussar on 20 February 2025, 09:28:29 PM
Make a change from our imperfect one!
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Post by: paulr on 21 February 2025, 07:22:06 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: sunjester on 21 February 2025, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 20 February 2025, 09:28:29 PMMake a change from our imperfect one!

 :d  :d  :d
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Post by: Last Hussar on 21 February 2025, 10:02:33 AM
How big is that terrain board?
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 February 2025, 10:39:52 AM
Good orcs
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Post by: Corso on 21 February 2025, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 21 February 2025, 10:02:33 AMHow big is that terrain board?

It's 24cm square, you can get them in various sizes.
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Post by: Corso on 21 February 2025, 04:47:57 PM
More dungeon bits

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Post by: paulr on 21 February 2025, 06:46:37 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: Corso on 22 February 2025, 03:55:20 PM
Recieved these recently from LAforum member

They are 6mm Celtic huts from Leven, who see to be offline at the moment but I'm hoping they will be back some day

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Post by: paulr on 23 February 2025, 07:36:00 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: 19th_century_octopus on 13 March 2025, 04:55:16 PM
I just saw this thread no an I have to say I love this idea. I must commend your painting Corso, absolutely incredible details, particularly for 6mm figures.
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Post by: Corso on 24 March 2025, 09:43:25 PM
Thanks, I'm really enjoying 6mm dungeon board plans and have a few more bits on the table to complete but couldn't help returning to 10mm for a 5 leagues from the boarderland project

Hopefully the Goths appear soon  :D

In the mean time...

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Post by: paulr on 25 March 2025, 05:51:02 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 March 2025, 08:23:50 AM
Brilliant
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Post by: Corso on 26 March 2025, 10:03:40 AM
Think I'm going to start a new 20mm thread  :D

But for now my sellsword heroes

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 March 2025, 11:18:31 AM
Quality work
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Post by: paulr on 28 March 2025, 11:25:39 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>
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Post by: Corso on 29 March 2025, 04:14:52 PM
Thanks

With a couple more from the adventures pack

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 March 2025, 07:21:15 PM
Those are incredible
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Post by: Corso on 29 March 2025, 07:33:54 PM
Thanks, should be able to use some of the 6mm stuff in the project too
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Post by: paulr on 30 March 2025, 04:07:09 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: kevjenk on 14 April 2025, 04:58:05 PM
Hello,

If this helps, I tend to use 30mm X 20mm mdf bases with fridge magnet material glue to the bottom for units such as a fire squad of a platoon with four figures per base. I will also use 20mm X 20mm for special weapons teams like MG's, RPG's etc with usually two or three figs per base. A company of guys will be 3 platoons of 3-4 bases of squads.

I now have a new period of Pendraken coming in for American War of Independence where one 30X20mm mdf base will have 4-5 figs in-line to represent formed troops of about 50 men and a 30x20mm base with 3 figures spaced out representing skirmish troops like native warriors or Kentucky militia.

I tend to use water jet cutting sand for my 10mm figs as basing material but modeling paste works well too. Any foam turf I use is the "fine" size but I will use the off small piece of gravel as a "boulder" or course turf as a bush. 2mm static grass is a nice size that seems to represent weedy patches. Anything bigger starts to look out of scale in my opnion.

I like the fridge magnet material glued to my bases as I can then use a metal container such as a Altoids mint tin to story by units - a "company" as described above, with leader bases will fit in one Altoid tin which is great to hand to a player and say "Here are your troops".

I also tend to use a 5mm tall label on my bases that reflect who and what the figures are meant to be. As an example, "C1P2S3" would represent "Company 1", "Platoon 2", "Squad 3". This is helpful if using rules that allow for large-size unit movement or action and helps keeping things organized. The colour of the label is helpful as well to see from a distance what side is where.

Regards,

Kevin Jenkins
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Post by: Corso on 15 April 2025, 05:06:38 PM
Thanks, the fridge magnet idea might be just the ticket for my terrain needs
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Post by: fred. on 15 April 2025, 05:17:39 PM
Magnetic sheet is really handy for applying under bases. It's good for storage and sabot bases, which have steel lining, or for storage are steel drawers. 

It can even work within the playing surface, though this can be impractical to make extensively of metal, but I have read of paint with iron filings in it being used. 
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Post by: tony of TTT on 15 April 2025, 07:06:35 PM
" I have read of paint with iron filings in it being used."

Back in the day I tried a couple of the 'magnetic' paint brands. Neither was any practical use and both needed multiple coats to work at all. Might be useful over a large area for holding very light things but not a practicable option for wargame pieces.

Fridge magnet strength sheets are just about OK for a few 6mm figures but you will need stronger magnetic sheet or small magnets for anything heavier.

I do sell both mag sheet and vinyl sheet impregnated with soft iron (brand is called Ferrosheet but there are others) - my website is Tiny Tin Troops (http://www.tinytintroops.co.uk).

A 30mm square MDF base with 8 10mm figures backed with mag sheet is firmly held on Ferrosheet stuck to a plastic tray or in a metal drawer or tin.

Tony of TTT

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Post by: Corso on 16 April 2025, 03:33:03 PM
Quote from: Corso on 14 February 2025, 06:57:47 PMKnocked up the terrain board

Converted from a magnetic chess board

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/16577-140225185359.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/65/16577-140225185443.jpeg)

I think I will end up making another so I have one for dungeon crawls and the other for outdoor adventures



This is my playing surface for this project, it's a travel chess set. Base is metal, the coating isn't an issue, my minis are mounted on magnets

What I need to figure out is how I can use dungeon tiles on the board, failing that I'll make some magnetic walls
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Post by: Corso on 18 April 2025, 09:23:15 PM
More Pendrakens adding to the guild of adventurers

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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 April 2025, 10:12:34 PM
I recognise Kiera & Merlin, but where is the halfiing from?
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Post by: Theo on 19 April 2025, 04:20:27 AM
The hobbit as well as the dwarf, the barbarian and the chap with the sword in the middle are from Copplestone mate. He has a lovely 10mm LoTR range and these are included in a personalities pack sold therein.

 Lovely job on them Tiny!
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Post by: paulr on 19 April 2025, 04:46:50 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: Corso on 19 April 2025, 06:18:27 AM
Theo is correct Copplestones with added extras  :D
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 April 2025, 08:06:08 AM
Ooooh!  ;D
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Post by: pierre the shy on 19 April 2025, 11:06:55 AM
Lovely work as usual Corso.

Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 April 2025, 10:12:34 PMI recognise Kiera & Merlin, but where is the halfiing from?

If its a LoTR hobbit then it must surely come from the Shire?  :-\
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Post by: Ithoriel on 19 April 2025, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 April 2025, 10:12:34 PMI recognise Kiera & Merlin, but where is the halfiing from?

Looks like Copplestone's 10mm "Not LOTR, honest guv'nor!" range. From the Heroes and Halflings pack.

Which I bought years ago and still haven't painted.

A nicely painted group Corso.
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Post by: Corso on 19 April 2025, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 19 April 2025, 11:34:25 AMLooks like Copplestone's 10mm "Not LOTR, honest guv'nor!" range. From the Heroes and Halflings pack.

Which I bought years ago and still haven't painted.

A nicely painted group Corso.

Thanks it is indeed but with added gear

I just realise I posted this in the wrong thread though :)