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Title: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: far4ngn on 09 January 2025, 01:06:41 AM
Has anyone based their 10-12mm figures on single washers?

I'm thinking of using 10mm or 12.5mm washers.  Some of the fantasy ranges need a little bit more room than 10mm historical...unless I trim the bases down.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Steve J on 09 January 2025, 06:34:46 AM
I've been basing my 10mm figures on single bases for Lion Rampant et al for some time now. I used to use tiddlywinks which are about 10mm or 1/2", but have now moved over to the mdf ones sold by Pendraken. Whilst you can use washers, I find them rather thin to try and pick up if just using the base, whereas the mdf is thicker and thus easier. Hope this helps?
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Raider4 on 09 January 2025, 08:52:08 AM
Pendraken Xenomorphs:
Xenos3.jpg

The medium creature is on a 20mm washer, the small ones on 12mm.

I have tried more humanoid figures in the past, think you might be better off with 15mm.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: fred. on 09 January 2025, 02:00:38 PM
I've used washers for single based 10mm figures, I think they were 12mm ones - they have the advantage of providing a very low centre of mass for the figure so they are easy to move without tipping over. 

But they are quite thin - but you can easily stick two together to give a thicker base

On some other projects I've used mdf bases for consistency with the rest of the force. 
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: far4ngn on 09 January 2025, 06:44:41 PM
I'm thinking of changing my sabots to a 2mm MDF base with magnetic sheet so I can do figure removal (yes I'm old school).

At the moment I have mdf sabots with cut outs for my figures in mdf bases... the new method would mean I don't need the lip around the base.

If I'm doing rank and flank games then I need the figures to be quite close so hence the 10mm/12.5mm options.  I can get small washers in 10, 12.5, 16 and 19.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Last Hussar on 09 January 2025, 07:54:58 PM
You might find 1p coins cheaper. I have a feeling 15mm washers are more than £1 per hundred.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Raider4 on 09 January 2025, 08:37:02 PM
Aye, you're not wrong there.

But . . .

It just seems somehow wrong to use coinage in that way. Don't know why, it just does.

(edit) And, just measured, pennies are ~21mm diameter, bigger than you think.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: fred. on 09 January 2025, 09:01:36 PM
It's worth checking the prices but small washers are fairly cheap in 100+ quantities 

I'm quite happy using coins for basing - and collect 1pm and 2ps for this. It's not like they have any use in purchasing anything. Even on the very odd occasions I use cash these days

The magnetic sabot base is a good idea. The recent Midguard rules have some very good examples of doing this for irregular looking units. 

I would consider leaving at least one raised edge on the sabot - just makes everything a bit more secure - even if it's just to give comfort that everything won't slide off. 
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: hammurabi70 on 10 January 2025, 12:35:31 AM
Quote from: Raider4 on 09 January 2025, 08:37:02 PMIt just seems somehow wrong to use coinage in that way. Don't know why, it just does.


Possibly an offence under the Coinage Act 1971.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: far4ngn on 10 January 2025, 02:28:58 AM
Problem is I'm in New Zealand... so closest coin to a penny is a 10 cents piece, similar to the penny but slightly larger at 20.5mm compared to 20.3mm.

Washers cost (double for GBP):-
12.5mm - 3 cents each
19mm - 5 cents each
21mm - 8 cents each

I should have brought back a bag of pennies when I was home in September.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Last Hussar on 10 January 2025, 09:36:01 AM
New Zealand  :o  Well, that's your own bloody fault - no sympathy!
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 10 January 2025, 11:37:28 AM
I use these magnetic disks for individual figures:

(https://www.bakerross.co.uk/media/catalog/product/e/c/ec1303c-pp.jpg?optimize=high&fit=bounds&height=&width=) (https://www.bakerross.co.uk/media/catalog/product/l/a/large-self-adhesive-magnetic-discs-ar835i-p_1.jpg?optimize=high&fit=bounds&height=&width=)

12mm (https://www.bakerross.co.uk/self-adhesive-magnetic-discs) or 25mm (https://www.bakerross.co.uk/large-self-adhesive-magnetic-discs) diameters avalable).  They stick very nicely into metal drawers/trays for storage, and a metal toolbox for transportation.

I usually peel the adhesive layer off, then superglue the figure on for a better fix.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Gwydion on 10 January 2025, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 10 January 2025, 12:35:31 AMPossibly an offence under the Coinage Act 1971.
As long as you aren't destroying them (ie you could theoretically remove the figure and spend the coin) you are not committing an offence under the Act.

It used to be an offence under the Coinage Offences Act 1936 to deface them - but that was repealed by the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981.

You mustn't melt them down or cut them up however - that remains an offence under the 1971 Act.

(In the UK - no idea about NZ!)
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: pierre the shy on 10 January 2025, 07:33:07 PM
You can't beat Wellington on a good day LH! Lived here for quite a while :)

far4ngn - search for "figure bases" on trademe.co.nz. There are several sellers on there that sell quite a variety of bases for 40K/WH but you might find something suitable?   

The craft section at Spotlight on the Hutt Road at Kaiwharawhara is also potentially useful, bought a few gaming related things in there over the years (I hasten to add the reason for going there is that my other half is a keen patchworker...).   
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: paulr on 10 January 2025, 10:38:48 PM
I go there for gaming supplies :)

Do sometimes confuse the staff ;D
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Last Hussar on 11 January 2025, 09:34:45 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 10 January 2025, 07:33:07 PMYou can't beat Wellington on a good day LH!   


As Napoleon can attest.

You do call it Jai in conversation? Tell me you don't always say the full name!
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: far4ngn on 26 January 2025, 02:47:19 AM
Must admit I can spend hours in Spotlight and also Pete's Emporium in Porirua... always something handy for wargaming purposes.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Corso on 26 January 2025, 08:09:18 AM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 10 January 2025, 11:37:28 AMI use these magnetic disks for individual figures:

(https://www.bakerross.co.uk/media/catalog/product/e/c/ec1303c-pp.jpg?optimize=high&fit=bounds&height=&width=) (https://www.bakerross.co.uk/media/catalog/product/l/a/large-self-adhesive-magnetic-discs-ar835i-p_1.jpg?optimize=high&fit=bounds&height=&width=)

12mm (https://www.bakerross.co.uk/self-adhesive-magnetic-discs) or 25mm (https://www.bakerross.co.uk/large-self-adhesive-magnetic-discs) diameters avalable).  They stick very nicely into metal drawers/trays for storage, and a metal toolbox for transportation.

I usually peel the adhesive layer off, then superglue the figure on for a better fix.

Those look handy, how thick are they?
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 28 January 2025, 12:24:59 PM
QuoteThose look handy, how thick are they?

Checked last night and the 12mm disks are 1mm. 

Couldn't find any of the 25mm ones, but I think they are probably punched from the same material.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 28 January 2025, 12:26:52 PM
Checked back through my posts for a picture of the disks in action and this one is the clearest:

(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l602/Meirion_Hopkins/10mm%20Minis/Work%20in%20progress/41F9A413-9B8B-4C0A-9947-B58A2F2B06B0-287-000000178627C8ED_zps7e4ea65b.jpg)

Cheers!

Meirion
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 28 January 2025, 12:29:52 PM
Also, they're magnetic enough to stick the bottom of an old tin and easily withstand spraying with a can of primer:

(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l602/Meirion_Hopkins/10mm%20Minis/Work%20in%20progress/P1020351.jpg)
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Corso on 28 January 2025, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 28 January 2025, 12:24:59 PMChecked last night and the 12mm disks are 1mm. 

Couldn't find any of the 25mm ones, but I think they are probably punched from the same material.

Cool my 6mm project used 10 and 15mm magnets but I need something bigger for terrain
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 28 January 2025, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Corso on 28 January 2025, 12:54:47 PMCool my 6mm project used 10 and 15mm magnets but I need something bigger for terrain

The disks are made from the same material you can get in sheets/rolls.  I've tended to use rare-earth magnets if I need anything more substantial to stick, but a few of these would probably do the trick.
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Last Hussar on 29 January 2025, 12:31:58 AM
12mm is 1mm?

Is this some kind of Zen?
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 29 January 2025, 09:27:49 AM
Quote12mm is 1mm?

Is this some kind of Zen?

We are all but vectors in an n-dimensional hyperspace...  O:-)
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: Corso on 29 January 2025, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 28 January 2025, 01:02:50 PMThe disks are made from the same material you can get in sheets/rolls.  I've tended to use rare-earth magnets if I need anything more substantial to stick, but a few of these would probably do the trick.

It's 6mm scale one per piece should work  :D
Title: Re: Single bases using metal washers
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 29 January 2025, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Corso on 29 January 2025, 11:16:52 AMIt's 6mm scale one per piece should work  :D

 ;D  :-bd