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Title: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Elliesdad on 02 September 2024, 08:48:37 PM
On BBC4 tonight (Monday 2 September) there was an episode of Call My Bluff from the 1970's.
One of the words defined was HUSKIN which one of the players described as followers of John/Jan Hus/Huss - Bohemian 15th century anti-papists. Imagine my surprise when the definition was declared as the True answer.
I've always thought called these people Hussites and I've never heard the word Huskin before. An online search, however, points me towards the OED which says that Huskin was first used in the mid 1500's.
Oh well, that's new fact for me today.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Orcs on 02 September 2024, 09:26:36 PM
Interesting, we have considered listening to Call my Bluff again, but thought it might be a little dated.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Steve J on 03 September 2024, 05:29:08 AM
Ah, Call My Bluff, now that takes me back many decades :) !
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: fsn on 03 September 2024, 06:59:35 AM
I was listening to the excellent "My Word" radio series from the 1970s. One of the words they were asked to define was "google".

Apparently, it meant to bowl a googly.

For non-cricketers, a googly (or googlie) can be explained as "while a normal leg break spins from the leg to the off side, away from a right-handed batter, a googly spins the other side, from off to leg, into a right-handed batter (and is distinct from an off break delivery)."

Hope that clarifies. 
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 September 2024, 07:07:49 AM
The Czechs themselves call them Hussites, and I think I'll recognise their authority in this.  ;D
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Last Hussar on 03 September 2024, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: fsn on 03 September 2024, 06:59:35 AMI was listening to the excellent "My Word" radio series from the 1970s. One of the words they were asked to define was "google".


The search engine, however, takes its name from 'googol', which is 10^100.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: d_Guy on 03 September 2024, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: fsn on 03 September 2024, 06:59:35 AMHope that clarifies. 

 :-\  uh - no  :D
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Raider4 on 03 September 2024, 01:28:16 PM

Quote. . .never heard the word Huskin before. An online search, however, points me towards the OED which says that Huskin was first used in the mid 1500's.
First and only usage, as far as I can find.


250 years ago people from Scotland were known as 'Scotch'. Before that they were 'Scots'. Now they're 'Scottish'. Languages evolve.

If you read My Secret Life (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Secret_Life_(memoir)) - not recommended - you'll repeatedly find some women described as 'gay'. Means a prostitute, as far as I can gather.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 September 2024, 01:43:03 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 03 September 2024, 01:28:16 PMFirst and only usage, as far as I can find.


250 years ago people from Scotland were known as 'Scotch'. Before that they were 'Scots'. Now they're 'Scottish'. Languages evolve.


Then, now, and forever, haggis-eaters!


(actually, haggis is rather tasty....)
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: fsn on 03 September 2024, 03:41:56 PM
QuoteThe search engine, however, takes its name from 'googol', which is 10^100.
Yes, I know. It was just a little jarring to hear the word "google" coming from a 1972 recording, and rather gratifying to find it was a cricketing term, rather than a mathematical one.

Quote:-\  uh - no  :D
Ah! https://adrianarnold.medium.com/explaining-cricket-to-an-american-63001a44d5cf (https://adrianarnold.medium.com/explaining-cricket-to-an-american-63001a44d5cf)
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Orcs on 03 September 2024, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 03 September 2024, 01:43:03 PMThen, now, and forever, haggis-eaters!


(actually, haggis is rather tasty....)

And what's wrong with Haggis?
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 September 2024, 01:22:39 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 03 September 2024, 11:01:08 PMAnd what's wrong with Haggis?

Ye havenae read me entire post, laddie.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Orcs on 05 September 2024, 08:49:37 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 04 September 2024, 01:22:39 AMYe havenae read me entire post, laddie.

Correct , I just took a wee look. :)
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 September 2024, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 03 September 2024, 11:01:08 PMAnd what's wrong with Haggis?

Ye everr et er ?
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: d_Guy on 05 September 2024, 04:27:53 PM
@fsn Ta, bookmarked for later.

@orcs i skipped the look but took the wee
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: fred. on 05 September 2024, 04:42:44 PM
QuoteYe everr et er ?
Do you need an ambulance Ian, are you having a stroke?
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Orcs on 05 September 2024, 11:22:33 PM
Quote from: fred. on 05 September 2024, 04:42:44 PMDo you need an ambulance Ian, are you having a stroke?

No he is just waiting for the nice men in white coats to come and give him his medicine.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Perkunos on 08 July 2025, 12:36:10 PM
Bit late replying but on reading this went to Thuroczy's Chronicle of the Hungarians  On line 209 he writes about the Hussites and "says The adherents of this sect, especially those who are our neighbours in Bohemia and its regions, we call Hussites". I travelled to Tabor, as well as following the trail of the "Bratrice" (brothers) after the defeat at Lipan, and was a guest of the Czech Government and Cultural Ministry. I have never heard the Hussites called anything else. Thuroczy's work was published in Brunn (Brno) in 1488.
The Lance and Longbow Society have a few copies left of my small book on "Janos Hunyadi and the Turkish Invasions o Hungary in the 15th Century" which includes details of Jan Huss, Jan Zizk, Jan Jiskra of Brandsy and other who are part of the Hussite story.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 08 July 2025, 02:33:59 PM

QuoteI was listening to the excellent "My Word" radio series from the 1970s. One of the words they were asked to define was "google".

Apparently, it meant to bowl a googly.

For non-cricketers, a googly (or googlie) can be explained as "while a normal leg break spins from the leg to the off side, away from a right-handed batter, a googly spins the other side, from off to leg, into a right-handed batter (and is distinct from an off break delivery)."

Hope that clarifies. 
It's a wrong-un, or a "Bosie" for our pals in Australia.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 08 July 2025, 02:35:08 PM

QuoteThen, now, and forever, haggis-eaters!


(actually, haggis is rather tasty....)
Tis tasty, and we eat very little of it.


It isn't easy to deep fry.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 08 July 2025, 02:39:19 PM
Thinking of other "factional titles".

"Ite" is a common suffix for the other lot.
"Kin" was common self description for religious communities.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Big Insect on 08 July 2025, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: Perkunos on 08 July 2025, 12:36:10 PMThe Lance and Longbow Society have a few copies left of my small book on "Janos Hunyadi and the Turkish Invasions o Hungary in the 15th Century" which includes details of Jan Huss, Jan Zizk, Jan Jiskra of Brandsy and other who are part of the Hussite story.

And I can vouch for it being a very good book indeed  :)
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Elliesdad on 09 July 2025, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 08 July 2025, 02:33:59 PMIt's a wrong-un, or a "Bosie" for our pals in Australia.


According to adult comic magazine Viz a "wrong-un" is something else, entirely different 😉
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 09 July 2025, 09:59:45 AM

QuoteAccording to adult comic magazine Viz a "wrong-un" is something else, entirely different 😉
There are several meanings for wrong-un.


Daily Mail editor 1946 "Who'd have guessed that Adolph was a wrong-un".


But in a cricketing context it's the Googly.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 09 July 2025, 10:00:28 AM
I feel as though I'm becoming the "Dictionary Corner" person.
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 July 2025, 10:28:25 AM
Vegan and beautiful like Ms. Dent?
Title: Re: Hussites - or maybe Huskin?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 09 July 2025, 10:32:24 AM
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 July 2025, 10:28:25 AMVegan and beautiful like Ms. Dent?

Doubt either - I mean a vegan Scot....