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Title: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 09 August 2024, 04:36:47 AM
Created and printed off 90+ aircraft counters for our upcoming GQ 1/2 game at our local Convention at the end of the month.

We are playing a "what if" variant of Operation Vigorous, the Eastern convoy that was sent from Alexandria and other Eastern Med ports to relieve the hard pressed island of Malta in mid June 1942. Historically the convoy failed as Axis airpower, combined with the threat of the Italian battlefleet, made it impossible to get through to Malta.

In our version the British convoy will receive additional support in the form of battleships and carriers to stave off the many enemy forces.

Will the convoy get through? You have to wait to next month to find out as we are not playing the game till 31 August.

   
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: paulr on 09 August 2024, 07:02:03 AM
Suitably inspiring footage for the British in the lead up to the game :)
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Steve J on 09 August 2024, 08:19:09 AM
Looking forward to seeing how the game went, obviously hoping our brave boys get through to Malta!
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: hammurabi70 on 09 August 2024, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 09 August 2024, 04:36:47 AMCreated and printed off 90+ aircraft counters for our upcoming GQ 1/2 game at our local Convention at the end of the month.   

Created from what?  Interesting that you have 90+.  Individual aircraft or formation based?  I shall look forward to reading the AAR!
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: fsn on 09 August 2024, 03:38:40 PM
Like it. I await the battle report with bated breath.
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 August 2024, 06:03:53 PM
Sounds awesome
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 09 August 2024, 10:06:30 PM
QuoteCreated from what?  Interesting that you have 90+.  Individual aircraft or formation based?  I shall look forward to reading the AAR!

I make them up from plan views of the relevant aircraft using GIMP and then put the image into a simple Word template, print them off and mount them on a fairly thick cardboard base. Yes, I could use minitures but I have limited gaming time and funds and this is a one-off scenario.

All the ships we will use are 1/3000th scale, mainly Navwar models except for the merchant ships which were kindly 3D printed by a forum member. 

The aircraft counters each represent a flight of 3 - 4 aircraft as per the rules we are using. You can get an idea of what they look like here from a small aerial campaign I ran a few years ago: https://betweenthelines10mm.blogspot.com/2021/01/operation-c-raf-recce.html (https://betweenthelines10mm.blogspot.com/2021/01/operation-c-raf-recce.html)

Thanks for all the interest in the game.  :-bd

I will report in once we have fought it out on the table. :-SS
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: T13A on 10 August 2024, 11:23:47 AM
Hi

Looking forward to the write up on this one; funnily enough recently re-read 'The Battle for the Mediterranean' by Donald Macintyre which covers this 'battle'.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 18 August 2024, 05:02:19 AM
Finished cutting up the aircraft counters and progressed the Italian capital ships today.....the Littorio Class are very impressive ships in GQ 1/2 terms, the Royal Navy is going to have to fight well to see off the Italian battlefleet.

Having been outmanuvered by the Marquis Lafayette and some American allies in a very quickfire AWI game last night I have agreed to put together the necessary forces to play Bill's last early W3K Irish scenario  - Liscarroll. Can Garrett Barrie's Irish massed "pike phalanx" overcome Inchquin's regulars?

Nothing like having a deadline to work to ;D   
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: paulr on 20 August 2024, 06:48:49 AM
:!!  :!!
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Ithoriel on 20 August 2024, 09:20:58 AM

QuoteFinished cutting up the aircraft counters and progressed the Italian capital ships today.....the Littorio Class are very impressive ships in GQ 1/2 terms, the Royal Navy is going to have to fight well to see off the Italian battlefleet.
The Vittorio Veneto's .... it's what Swordfish were made for :D
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 August 2024, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 August 2024, 09:20:58 AMThe Vittorio Veneto's .... it's what Swordfish were made for :D


Not in daylight with Italian fighters about. Now HMS Nelson....
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 20 August 2024, 10:54:22 AM
QuoteNot in daylight with Italian fighters about. Now HMS Nelson....

That's what the Fulmars are for ;D

As for Nelson and Rodney, they appear in the Med a little bit later (August 1942 for Operation Pedestal). For this game Admiral Harwood (of River Plate fame) gets to command the Warspite and a couple of R Class battleships...at least they are real battleships!

I left out the target ship HMS Centurion which was used as a dummy KGV battleship in the actual operation.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 August 2024, 09:20:58 AMThe Vittorio Veneto's .... it's what Swordfish were made for :D

Swordfish are so 1941, for 1942 the FAA get Albacores with fully enclosed cockpits - luxury!!  ;D 
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Ithoriel on 20 August 2024, 10:57:59 AM

QuoteSwordfish are so 1941, for 1942 the FAA get Albacores with fully enclosed cockpits - luxury!!  (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/grin.gif) 
Go on, Albacores are really just Swordfish with cockpit canopies! :)
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 20 August 2024, 11:01:08 AM
Your not wrong there Mike  ;D
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 August 2024, 12:15:55 PM
At least the Blackburn Roc isn't an option...
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Last Hussar on 20 August 2024, 12:35:41 PM
Quotefully enclosed cockpits - luxury!!

When I was lad we had to wear woolly hats.
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 August 2024, 12:36:32 PM
But they could have been, still around til 44 in Bermuda
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 24 August 2024, 06:04:23 AM
Finished adding 0.8mm brass masts, painting and basing 18 Italian and British cruisers today....just got to do some destroyers now I have finally unearthed my remaining ones to be done from the very bottom of my lead pile.

Not sure how I managed to acquire so many Dido class cruisers over the years but they'll all be useful.....plenty of Med based scenarios for them to appear in, though their names are all Greek to me ;)
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 01 September 2024, 07:55:43 AM
The Admiralty regrets to announce the loss of the battleship HMS Warspite during recent convoy operations in the Mediterranian Theatre of Operations.

Our naval forces inflicted heavy damage on at least one Italian battleship and destroyed many enemy aircraft.

However the convoy was forced to turn back short of its destination due to the presence of superior enemy naval  forces.

Further communicques will be issued in due course.

Opps  :-[   
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: fsn on 01 September 2024, 08:45:07 AM
Not the Warspite!  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: T13A on 01 September 2024, 01:01:28 PM
QuoteThe Admiralty regrets to announce the loss of the battleship HMS Warspite during recent convoy operations in the Mediterranian Theatre of Operations.

Nooooo!  :o  :'(

Must be a fault with the rules (or the umpire)!

Cheers Paul

Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Steve J on 01 September 2024, 03:37:37 PM
Oh dear!
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: paulr on 02 September 2024, 07:53:45 AM
Mi dispiace molto :-[
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 September 2024, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: paulr on 02 September 2024, 07:53:45 AMMi dispiace molto :-[

I bet you're not! :)
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: d_Guy on 02 September 2024, 02:28:18 PM
Peter, I wonder if you have read C. S. Forester's "The Ship"?
A short novel describing an RN light cruiser squadron (and some destroyers) defending a convoy to Malta from a sizable portion of the Italian fleet.

It was written at the height of the war and is an iconography of the RN. Still it is much in Hornblower style and I remember enjoying all the tactical and operational details.

Enjoy your game (and Liscarroll as well  :) ). Awaiting reports on both (and pics, don't forget pics).
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: d_Guy on 02 September 2024, 02:45:29 PM
Incidentally, before Kitty pounces (as he sometimes does when he sees language use as a ball of twine), I did consider both "hagiography" and "paean to" before using "iconography". It is a study of iconic RN officers and rating types with much of thier interior life exposed.  :D
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: fsn on 02 September 2024, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 02 September 2024, 02:28:18 PMPeter, I wonder if you have read C. S. Forester's "The Ship"?
Excellent book! One of my favourites. It may be called "the Ship" but it is all about the frail humans it carried.
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 02 September 2024, 06:33:14 PM
Yes I have read most of C.S Forester's works, including "The Ship", which is based on events at the Second Battle of Sirte. He also wrote "Gold from Crete" about the exploits of a British destroyer flotilla in the Med during the early part of the war.

If you want a slightly gritter human story of the wartime RN from a contemporary author try Nicolas Monserrat's "The Cruel Sea" which was made into a very good film in the early 50's when the last Flower Class corvettes were still in service. "Snorkers for dinner!!"  ;D

There are several other Malta convoy actions that I'd like to try at some stage now I know the scenario concept worked pretty well overall. But with a lot of aircraft and two tables we did not get quite as many turns as I had hoped as each turn takes a while to work through. Still we got a fairly decisive result in the time we did play. Warspite was the only ship that was lost on either side, though as you will see the Italian flagship had a lucky escape.
 
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: fsn on 02 September 2024, 06:54:57 PM
If we're going down that path, I'd add Alistair MacLean's "HMS Ulysses", which about Arctic Convoys, and Monsarrat's short story "HMS Marlborough Will Enter Harbour" - but "The Ship" is most relevant to the thread. :)


Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: fsn on 02 September 2024, 07:03:42 PM
Hang on ... you lost the Warspite, you didn't sink any Italian capital ships, just swatted a few pesky kites, and the convoy turned back?


I think the Admiral Byng treatment should be resurrected, Sir!  >:( 
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 02 September 2024, 08:13:12 PM
But I didn't lose Minorca!  ;D

We'll try again in a couple of months from Gibraltar.....code name Pedestal......take the Nelson and Rodney this time....bigger ships with bigger guns to match the Italian Lottorio's (if they can find enough fuel to get them to sea)......carriers with lots of fighters (well Sea Hurricanes and Fulmars anyway  :-X ).....use fast merchantmen with lots of AA.....

If that doesn't work I guess I'll see out the war running a weather station somewhere above the Arctic Circle if I'm lucky.
Title: Re: Operation Vigorous June 1942
Post by: pierre the shy on 05 September 2024, 01:05:37 AM
You can now find my finally completed battle report on the game in the Batrep section of the forum.