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Title: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 04 July 2024, 04:31:55 PM
Just a reminder, ( though I'm sure it's not the sort of thing you'd post anyway) DO NOT POST HOW YOU VOTED BEFORE 10 OCLOCK.

Pendraken would be held legally responsible for publishing a vote while the polls are still open.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Orcs on 04 July 2024, 04:49:01 PM
I am not sure why anyone would reveal how they voted, as the secret ballot is a fundamental part of our society.
 

But according to the BBC (Biased Broadcasting Corporation) you can tell people as long as you do not update social media inside the Polling Station.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56849080

Can I tell my social media followers how I voted?
You can, but voters are advised not to update their social media accounts inside the polling station.


Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 July 2024, 05:05:55 PM
It's the French one we need to worry about, anyway.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 04 July 2024, 05:35:25 PM
Election law (specifically section 66A of the Representation of the People Act 1983) makes it an offence to publish before the polls close at 10pm.

QuoteBiased Broadcasting Corporation
To right wing for you?
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: flamingpig0 on 04 July 2024, 05:57:22 PM
Do we really need to know?
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Raider4 on 04 July 2024, 06:32:59 PM
QuoteDo we really need to know?
No, we don't. And I can't remember anyone posting their voting preference on here in previous elections.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: flamingpig0 on 04 July 2024, 06:41:36 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 04 July 2024, 06:32:59 PMNo, we don't. And I can't remember anyone posting their voting preference on here in previous elections.


Nor me.

I would rather not be given the opportunity to think unkindly of people. Wargaming is too important for that

Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: hammurabi70 on 04 July 2024, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 04 July 2024, 05:05:55 PMIt's the French one we need to worry about, anyway.


French?  I should have thought the Iranian!

But enough of politics.  I am mainly riveted by reading THE NAVAL WAR IN THE MEDITERRANEAN 1940 - 1943 and the implications for NIMITZ/HALSEY gaming.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: DecemDave on 05 July 2024, 10:06:33 AM
QuoteI would rather not be given the opportunity to think unkindly of people. Wargaming is too important for that

well. no additional ones maybe?  we already have some who rule nit-pick, disparage others choice of scales or models, point out that my carefully painted 197th line had changed their cuff colour the year before etc or otherwise disagree with my own humble but clearly correct opinions. 
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: flamingpig0 on 05 July 2024, 10:15:50 AM
Quote from: DecemDave on 05 July 2024, 10:06:33 AMwell. no additional ones maybe?  we already have some who rule nit-pick, disparage others choice of scales or models, point out that my carefully painted 197th line had changed their cuff colour the year before etc or otherwise disagree with my own humble but clearly correct opinions. 

I am too good at hating things - I have now got to the age not wishing to any more.

Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 05 July 2024, 10:31:52 AM
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 04 July 2024, 06:41:36 PMNor me.

I would rather not be given the opportunity to think unkindly of people. Wargaming is too important for that



Yes, wargaming - modelling such pleasant human interaction...

 ;D
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Raider4 on 05 July 2024, 11:56:55 AM

QuoteYes, wargaming - modelling such pleasant human interaction...

Play fantasy. Dwarves vs. lizardmen - not a human in sight.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: flamingpig0 on 05 July 2024, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 05 July 2024, 10:31:52 AMYes, wargaming - modelling such pleasant human interaction...

 ;D

at least a fairly honest interaction- comparatively rare these days
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Elliesdad on 05 July 2024, 12:30:53 PM
Ballot papers are numbered (so "the powers that be" know WHICH SPECIFIC ballot paper was allocated to me/anyone else) yet we make a fuss about it being a "secret" ballot.

I appreciate ballot papers are numbered, but doesn't that mean it would be possible to subsequently search through the completed ballot papers to identify how an individual voted? Mind-numbingly dull though 😉
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Orcs on 05 July 2024, 12:43:34 PM
Well after all the seemingly endless, news coverage ,debates, arguments, disparaging comments and  downright lies ( from all sides of the house) we have the expected result that was effectively known 5 weeks or so ago.

Lets see what this change will bring
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 July 2024, 03:04:44 PM
Five weeks ago Tice was leader of Reform UK and it was nowhere in the polls. Five weeks is an eternity in politics!
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Genom on 05 July 2024, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: DecemDave on 05 July 2024, 10:06:33 AMwell. no additional ones maybe?  we already have some who rule nit-pick, disparage others choice of scales or models, point out that my carefully painted 197th line had changed their cuff colour the year before etc or otherwise disagree with my own humble but clearly correct opinions. 
I will never forget the look of horror when someone asked which regiments my Napoleonics figures were and I answered, those ones are French and those ones are British. Perfectly accurate answer but it someone offended his sensibilities. Oh well, not my period.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Raider4 on 05 July 2024, 07:13:10 PM
I never fail to be impressed by the speed at which the transfer of power happens at these times.

And, I have just heard the ITN news anchor describe the SNP as being decimated as they lose 4/5 of their MPs. I do not think she understands what "decimated" means.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: kustenjaeger on 05 July 2024, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: Genom on 05 July 2024, 03:54:34 PMI will never forget the look of horror when someone asked which regiments my Napoleonics figures were and I answered, those ones are French and those ones are British. Perfectly accurate answer but it someone offended his sensibilities. Oh well, not my period.

 :)
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Big Insect on 05 July 2024, 07:55:14 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 05 July 2024, 07:13:10 PMI never fail to be impressed by the speed at which the transfer of power happens at these times.

And, I have just heard the ITN news anchor describe the SNP as being decimated as they lose 4/5 of their MPs. I do not think she understands what "decimated" means.

Send that in to Private Eye and you'll get £10 if they publish it  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 July 2024, 07:59:20 PM

QuoteAnd, I have just heard the ITN news anchor describe the SNP as being decimated as they lose 4/5 of their MPs. I do not think she understands what "decimated" means.
I imagine the SNP would have been delighted to merely be decimated.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: pierre the shy on 05 July 2024, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 05 July 2024, 07:59:20 PMI imagine the SNP would have been delighted to merely be decimated.

 ;D 

"What have the Romans ever done for us?"


Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 July 2024, 01:02:11 AM
Quote from: Raider4 on 05 July 2024, 07:13:10 PMI never fail to be impressed by the speed at which the transfer of power happens at these times.

And, I have just heard the ITN news anchor describe the SNP as being decimated as they lose 4/5 of their MPs. I do not think she understands what "decimated" means.

That is 700% worse than decimation! She needs help NOW.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 06 July 2024, 06:36:36 AM
QuoteAnd, I have just heard the ITN news anchor describe the SNP as being decimated as they lose 4/5 of their MPs. I do not think she understands what "decimated" means.

Yes she does. The word has been what linguists call 'skunked'. That is when a word changes meaning. You use skunked words all the time.


Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 06 July 2024, 06:37:59 AM
Though I do dislike the misuse/skunking of "literally".
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Raider4 on 06 July 2024, 11:23:38 AM
I watch a lot of US-based space launches, and they use the phrase
"<thing> is nominal", meaning "within normal parameters" all the time.

My brain, of course, translates it automatically as "in name only". 
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: hammurabi70 on 06 July 2024, 11:34:13 AM
QuoteThat is 700% worse than decimation! She needs help NOW.

The trap of the pedant.

decimate
UK /ˈdɛsɪmeɪt/
verb (with object)

1.
kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of
the inhabitants of the country had been decimated

drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something)
public transport has been decimated

2.
(historical)
kill one in every ten of (a group of people, originally a mutinous Roman legion) as a punishment for the whole group
the man who is to determine whether it be necessary to decimate a large body of mutineers
derivatives

decimator
Historically, the meaning of the word decimate is 'kill one in every ten of (a group of people)'. This sense has been more or less totally superseded by the later, more general sense 'kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of', as in 'the virus has decimated the population'. Some traditionalists argue that this is incorrect, but it is clear that it is now part of standard English


word origin

late 16th century: from Latin decimat- 'taken as a tenth', from the verb decimare, from decimus 'tenth'. In Middle English the term decimation denoted the levying of a tithe, and later the tax imposed by Cromwell on the Royalists (1655)


https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english/decimate
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 July 2024, 11:42:50 AM
These posts are getting far too intellectual for the forum
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 July 2024, 12:06:36 PM
 Decimate meant originally to kill every tenth man as a punishment for cowardice or mutiny. Its application
 is naturally extended to the destruction in any way of a large proportion of  anything reckoned by number, e.g. a
 population may be said to be decimated by a plague. But undue advantage is taken of this latitude by a journalist
 who applies the word to the virtual extermination of rabbits by myxomatosis; and anything that is expressly
 inconsistent with the proper sense (A single frosty night decimated the currants by as much as 8oo%) must be avoided.
 A startling example of what this may lead to was given by a contributor to correspondence in The Times on the
 misuse of the word LITERALLY. 'I submit the following' he wrote, 'long and  lovingly remembered from my "penny
 dreadful" days: Dick, hotly pursued by the scalp-hunter, turned in his saddle, fired, and literally decimated his opponent.' See SLIPSHOD EXTENSION.

Where Fowler leads, I follow.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: fsn on 07 July 2024, 07:55:37 AM
Quote from: Raider4 on 06 July 2024, 11:23:38 AMI watch a lot of US-based space launches, and they use the phrase
"<thing> is nominal", meaning "within normal parameters" all the time.

My brain, of course, translates it automatically as "in name only".

When I was a baby programmer, we had to import a genuine American because some issue with the US made hardware was causing the entire project to come to a halt.

He was an uptight little man, from his short buttoned up to his fat little neck, to his heavy frames glasses to his oil-slick hair. His movements were abrupt and somehow prissy. He had (and I shall not reveal it) a name which sounded like an anagram. Above all, he was super impressed with him own importance.

I was stuck for something to do until he did what he was supposed to, so I took to the break area with one of the big orange manuals for the computers we were using.

He wondered in and fussed about complaining that we didn't have reaaaal coffee. I asked him how things were going and his answer is forever burned in my memory.

"The sit-ooo-ation is nominal at this time."


I still don't know what he meant, but he took days to fix our "nominal sit-ooo-ation".




 
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: d_Guy on 07 July 2024, 01:02:10 PM
Your descriptive powers have not ebbed nor lost their edge.

In my part of the States, we say "sit-chee-a-shun".
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 July 2024, 02:33:43 PM
As a professional librarian working in IT I did sometimes feel that attempts were being made to blind me with science. 

As the library's IT Guy I insisted on situation reports direct from the suppliers rather than filtered through the IT department, in the event of problems.

We had an outage with one of our IBM servers and the guy who fixed it was still on site so I asked for a verbal situation report so I could update the management team as soon as possible.

His verbal report was that there had been an "out of range thermal event in an air movement device", or words to that effect.

That's "a fan caught fire" to most of us.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Leon on 07 July 2024, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 06 July 2024, 06:37:59 AMThough I do dislike the misuse/skunking of "literally".

Argh!  It's literally being used by literally everyone to describe, literally, non-literal events...

 >:(
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 July 2024, 02:10:27 AM
Good, plain, straight talk - call a spade a bio-mechanical agri-funereal fossorial excavator.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Raider4 on 08 July 2024, 07:27:06 AM

QuoteIt's the French one we need to worry about, anyway.
It's alright - the Popular Front won. Don't know what happened to the People's Front. Splitters! 
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 July 2024, 07:50:04 AM
Quote from: Raider4 on 08 July 2024, 07:27:06 AMIt's alright - the Popular Front won. Don't know what happened to the People's Front. Splitters!


But not enough to form a government

Annoying language - starting every sentance with "so", and the phrase "take on board"
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 July 2024, 08:20:51 AM
Vive la France.
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 08 July 2024, 08:33:47 AM
So Kermit, you want me to re-orientate my forward facing activities to take on board your non-optimal responses?
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Techno 3 on 08 July 2024, 08:42:59 AM
QuoteAnnoying language - starting every sentance with "so",

+1.....ARGHHHHH !!!
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 July 2024, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 08 July 2024, 08:33:47 AMSo Kermit, you want me to re-orientate my forward facing activities to take on board your non-optimal responses?

Erm BOG OFF
Title: Re: Don't tell 'em Pike
Post by: Last Hussar on 08 July 2024, 09:14:52 AM
 :o