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Title: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Last Hussar on 30 June 2024, 11:24:24 AM
Hi all.

Please will you suggest rules for ACW. There is the following limit.

I have slightly over 60 bases of infantry, based on 30x30mm. I also have guns, Cavalry etc, but my limit is really the 60 bases maximum per side.

Alternatively,  if anyone has a F&F suggestion,  as I have the rules, but the 2 scenario books have army lists of 120 to 200 bases.
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Raider4 on 30 June 2024, 01:04:28 PM
Valour & Fortitude (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/valour-fortitude/) from Perry Miniatures? ACW army sheets available.
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 June 2024, 01:39:58 PM
Sorry, my suggestion was AWI
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 June 2024, 01:41:30 PM
Cannons and Rifles
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: sunjester on 30 June 2024, 06:01:39 PM
What is wrong with Black Powder, which we have been playing previously?
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Chris Pringle on 30 June 2024, 06:39:15 PM
As the author, may I respectfully nominate "Bloody Big Battles!"? There are 15 ACW scenarios in the BBB group files, including Gettysburg (with four players, we fought all three days on a 6'x4' table at the club on a Monday evening) and Chancellorsville. BBB recommends 25x25mm bases but your 30x30 should be fine. The Gettysburg scenario needs 62 Union infantry and 53 Confederate; Chancellorsville, 56 Union and 27 Confederate. A good starter scenario is 1st Bull Run, 37 US vs 35 CSA. Other small ones include Champion Hill and Cedar Creek.
https://groups.io/g/bloodybigbattles
(You need to join the group to get access to the files, but don't worry, it's free and you can leave at any time.)
Collected reviews of BBB here:
https://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/2016/10/collected-reviews-of-bbb-bloody-big.html
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: fsn on 30 June 2024, 07:19:01 PM
(https://files.ekmcdn.com/303285/images/donald-f-featherstone-war-games-first-edition-second-print-1965-969-1-p.jpg?w=500&h=500&v=56f6c2a9-8153-403b-8744-221fb7dc853d)
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: BernaDotDotDot on 30 June 2024, 08:07:16 PM
BBB and Fire and Fury, in my opinion, by far in what has been suggested. Just depends on the details and your preferences. I dont play ACW but I have FnF and have played all the rules listed so far.
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 July 2024, 06:28:00 AM
Quote from: fsn on 30 June 2024, 07:19:01 PM(https://files.ekmcdn.com/303285/images/donald-f-featherstone-war-games-first-edition-second-print-1965-969-1-p.jpg?w=500&h=500&v=56f6c2a9-8153-403b-8744-221fb7dc853d)

So good that Union cav charged Confed infantry with rifled muskets behind a wall and destroyed them.
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Shedman on 01 July 2024, 07:50:35 AM
Bloody Big Battles will work fine  with your base sizes and numbers
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Last Hussar on 01 July 2024, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: sunjester on 30 June 2024, 06:01:39 PMWhat is wrong with Black Powder, which we have been playing previously?
But apart from that...

Never sure how to class BP unit skirmishers for ACW, as they are part of the unit. Tending towards 'they both did it, it's standard by this point, so baked in and doesn't need to be shown."
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Last Hussar on 01 July 2024, 09:56:16 AM
Also - I have looked for BBB over the years, all I find is reports, not the actual rules. Where do I go to get them?
Title: Re: ACW rules suggestion 60 bases a side
Post by: Chris Pringle on 01 July 2024, 10:02:32 AM
Thanks for the question, LH. As mentioned at the top of the BBBBlog, in the UK you can get BBB from Caliver Books or North Star:
https://caliverbooks.com/bookview.php
https://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=296&page=1
In the US, Brigade Games or On Military Matters.
I believe some other retailers carry them too.

Chris