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Title: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 May 2024, 10:06:21 AM
Who in history rolled a '1', giving modern readers a 'How did they lose that?' I don't mean the bad decisions - eg Burnside, I mean 'How the hell?'
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: sunjester on 31 May 2024, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 31 May 2024, 10:06:21 AMWho in history rolled a '1', giving modern readers a 'How did they lose that?' I don't mean the bad decisions - eg Burnside, I mean 'How the hell?'
All of yours!! :d
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 May 2024, 11:41:33 AM
Well yes, but I was thinking famous people...
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 May 2024, 12:11:35 PM
Hans Wilhelm Langsdorff
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 May 2024, 12:20:31 PM
Also von Scheer and Hipper. 31 05 1916.
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2024, 02:11:20 PM
Pompey the Great

On 9 August 48 BCE the Senatorial forces under Pompey faced the forces of Julius Caesar at Pharsalus.

Pompey had somewhere between 50% and 100% more legionaries and around seven times as many cavalry compared to Caesar.

To be fair, Caesar's legions were more experienced but even so .....

Pompey's losses are estimated at between 6,000 and 15,000 killed, with a further 24,000 captured.

Caesar's losses in terms of men killed are put at between 200 and 1,200.

Pompey fled to Egypt where the Pharaoh's men killed him and cut his head off to curry favour with Caesar, who was not amused by this and sided with the Pharaoh's sister, Cleopatra.

Eventually the Pharaoh was killed in battle against Caesar. Perhaps Pompey wasn't the only one in this affair to "roll a 1!"
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: sunjester on 31 May 2024, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 May 2024, 12:11:35 PMHans Wilhelm Langsdorff
Or was it that HMS Exeter's gunners rolled a "6"?
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Raider4 on 31 May 2024, 07:18:16 PM
Naval ones come to mind most easily.

Vice-Admiral Lancelot Holland (HMS Hood) certainly failed his armour save.

Captain Guy D'Oyly-Hughes (HMS Glorious) and Admiral Sir Tom Phillips (Force Z) seem to have rolled badly on the encounter table.

Looking further back I don't think that Charles d'Albret, Constable of France and commander of the French forces at Agincourt would have expected to be so comprehensively thrashed by an English army considerably smaller than his own.
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: pierre the shy on 31 May 2024, 10:01:14 PM
Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto must have rolled a "1" in April 1943 when the G4M Betty bomber he was travelling in was shot down by US fighters while flying from Rabaul to the airfield at Balalae Island. Yamamoto was on an inspection tour of the Solomon Islands that still remained in Japanese hands after the loss of Guadalcanal.

The Americans knew of his movements due to their breaking the IJN's JN-25 naval code with "Magic".   
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2024, 11:31:18 PM
Or possibly Yamamoto's escorting fighters rolled a bunch of 1's.

You had ONE job .....
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: pierre the shy on 31 May 2024, 11:54:02 PM
yes the escort must have been rolling on a d1 that day.....both Lanphier and Barber, the two P-38 pilots involved in the actual interception survived and returned to base.
Title: Re: Commanders who rolled a '1'?
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 June 2024, 01:30:48 AM
To be fair the Lockheed P-38 Lightning was one of the top fighters of the war and the Mitsubishi G4M "Betty" was known as "The Cigar" by the Japanese and "The Flying Lighter" by the Americans due to it's tendency to catch fire when hit.