I've been trying to tackle some all too often neglected scenery in my collection. On this thread I will include pictures of some of the scenery I'm tackling. Initially it will be villages from TBM. I just finished a 6mm "pike and shotte" village to muse with 10mm armies:
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Next up will be a 6mm Russian village for my 10mm Crimean War project followed up by a 6mm Italian village for my 10mm Risorgimento project (probably starting to see a theme here).
Really nice work there!
TBM stuff is great - but you have really made these ones look excellent
Nice!
I have always liked a based or diorama scene like this for a town or village better than arranged loose buildings. That looks great, will have to get one myself.
Very nice
I've been tempted by their 6mm early Medieval stuff for my Merlin project bur havn't bitten yet
This might change my mind
Quote from: BernaDotDotDot on 14 March 2024, 11:56:16 PMI have always liked a based or diorama scene like this for a town or village better than arranged loose buildings. That looks great, will have to get one myself.
BDDD, I feel the same way. I like that most of the TBM villages have a rubber footprint that you place the buildings on. You can take the buildings off and place your figures in there when they occupy the town and move the buildings around. They uniform building sizes to fit into uniform recesses molded into the rubber footprint.
Here, I've removed one of the barns so I can place a unit of Spanish shotte.
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The recesses are an interesting idea, didn't notice them at all in the first picture
Nice job Streetgang :-bd
Like others here I think the "one scale down" concept of using 6mm buildings with 10mm figures works well.
I personally haven't seen TBM buildings "in the flesh" before, but the rubberised footprint is a very clever concept.
I painted up some 6mm Battlescale buildings for our 17th century Celtic Fringe games recently: https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,22617.15.html (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,22617.15.html)
I agree, I use Leven stuff to great effect
You do you, but I like 10mm scenery for 10mm figures. Why? I think it's 'cos I tend to use fairly small figure ratios. For Napoleonics, I use 1:10, for post 1900 I use 1:1. If you have 1 figure represent 1 person, then a tiny house seems a bit silly to me.
If my 1 tank represented a squadron, if I had 24 figures to a Napoleonic infanty unit, then perhaps I would ... who am I kidding? If I wanted to use 6mm scenery, I'd use 6mm figures. I use 10mm figures, so I use 10mm scenery.
Quote from: fsn on 15 March 2024, 08:50:14 AMYou do you, but I like 10mm scenery for 10mm figures. Why? I think it's 'cos I tend to use fairly small figure ratios. For Napoleonics, I use 1:10, for post 1900 I use 1:1. If you have 1 figure represent 1 person, then a tiny house seems a bit silly to me.
If my 1 tank represented a squadron, if I had 24 figures to a Napoleonic infanty unit, then perhaps I would ... who am I kidding? If I wanted to use 6mm scenery, I'd use 6mm figures. I use 10mm figures, so I use 10mm scenery.
I agree. 10mm buildings are, in most cases, under-scale anyway.
I feel it is some time since I last said it, so, "Wendy Houses!" :-)
Beautiful and would grace any table but still Wendy Houses in a 10mm game.
Each to their own, however.
I use 10mm and 6mm buildings with 10mm figures (not at the same time!)
For games were a base of 3-5 figures represents a company or a battalion then going down to 6mm buildings helps get enough buildings in a given footprint to give the idea you are fighting over a village or town.
For games were a base is a platoon or squad then 10mm buildings work much better.
To me it's the footprint that matters far more than the height. In a game you are rarely getting down to eye level and going those doorways look too small. To me it's far more about looking at the roofs, and what they represent.
Agree with Fred. For my Regimental ACW I use 10mm buildings. For my FPW where a stand is a regiment, 6mm houses work best.
I am only speaking Napoleonics and the scales I like, but I am pretty firmly in the 6mm terrain with 10mm minis camp. I feel it breaks any notion the mind draws that the figures are 1:1. Plus as Fred puts it, footprint (often less of it) is more important. Unless you are using very large bases at the battalion level (1:10 ratio) then it just doesn't work with your ground scale and measurements. Or not using a ground scale at all, which to each their own but I couldn't do. It is all personal preference. The only thing that is truly nails on a chalkboard for me is 28mm terrain with 28mm figures, and anything above a brigade on the table. That barn is the same footprint as a German town...
That said, some periods can healthily get down to the 1:1-1:10 level on a 6x4 board with 10mm. That is quite different and 10mm terrain would be very proper. Depends on your ratio and ground scale, but very few Napoleonic battles can even reach close to that. One day I would really like to do obscure Napoleonic era theaters and Conquistador actions using 1:1 and 10mm, with some sort of modified Chain of Command style rules.
Anyway. It is a bit splitting hairs overall. But that is my .02
I had no idea that piece was modular. Or the base was cast rubber. That is very nice. The few I have are solid and have openings like gardens where are least one base will fit, but that is certainly superior for playing. Will have to check it out. Should at some point make my own bases for the battlescale buildings I have. Plenty enough to do as it is...
I have played WWII games with Chain of Command using 10mm figures, and 10mm terrain, where figure scale, ground scale and rule scale all match. This is a cool way of setting up a game, as you can use photo recon images to setup the table. It does give you a good feel of the empty battle field.
But this is a platoon a side on 6'x4' table - which is cool to do occasionally. But normally I'd much rather have 300 figures per side than 30!
What is funny, if you think about it, is people are discussing the merits between 6mm and 10mm but completely forgetting about the fact that most people (myself included) represent a settlement of hundreds of buildings with two or three miniature houses.
I don't mean to insult, criticise, write something that my autistic mind can't figure out the words I should be writing to describe what I mean. I just wanted mention, what others have said before about representing settlements in miniature.
Anyway. Streetgang, those are some lovely painted models and miniatures =D>
Finished up the Russian village and decided to snap some pics to show the bare footprint/modularity and size comparison next to some 10mm figures:
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More info and pictures here: https://lecoqfou.blogspot.com/2024/03/610mm-russian-village.html (https://lecoqfou.blogspot.com/2024/03/610mm-russian-village.html)
Those split shake shingle roofs look great.
QuoteWhat is funny, if you think about it, is people are discussing the merits between 6mm and 10mm but completely forgetting about the fact that most people (myself included) represent a settlement of hundreds of buildings with two or three miniature houses.
My argument has always been that if you can see 30 miniatures and believe they are a formation that is 1500 strong in real life then why can't you look at a cluster of 3 houses and see it as a settlement of 150 buildings?
In which case it makes more sense to me to use figures and buildings of the same scale, where possible.
People are free to use what they want of course, it's not like the Wargames Police are going to kick in your front door and drag you off! :)
If it floats your boat to use 3mm scale buildings and 54mm scale figures then I absolutely uphold your right to do so.
But I reserve the right to think you are weird. =) ;D :d
Quoteuse 3mm scale buildings and 54mm scale figures
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The final installment (for now at least) of the TBM scenery, here is a small Italian village. This is a one piece casting which I found a bit trickier to paint and wouldn't be as gaming friendly as the detached buildings to deploy units:
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More at my blog: https://lecoqfou.blogspot.com/2024/03/610mm-italian-village.html (https://lecoqfou.blogspot.com/2024/03/610mm-italian-village.html)
Very nice indeed
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That looks awesome!