Far from a regular here on the forum, but suprised there isn't a Pendraken 10mm Orc range. I am sure there is history here somewhere but haven't been able to find anything. I admit I haven't looked in on the Warband rules to see if they are included in there... (which maybe a reason they aren't)
I imagine Leon's to do list is vast & extensive...but maybe??
We used to have a range of Orcs but they were really 15mm figures and were way bigger than anything else in the Fantasy ranges. We dropped them when Warband was released and just left the Goblins instead. We do have some folks who use the Goblins as Orcs though.
There were some plans to add some chunkier figures to use as Orcs but we didn't get chance to do them (2020 I think?) We're hoping to add Ratmen and Amazon later this year so we'll see if we can fit some Orc types in next year.
Thanks Leon....Answer much appreciated. I have a Goblin army somewhere in your casters backlog so will get a good look at them in the near future. However somehow I doubt they will work for me as Orcs. But I will find an alternative in the interim. I understand hobby desires doesn't nesc make a great economic reason/decision on what to put into production.
You have many other wares that are tempting enough in the interim.
Bob
I know Orcs - he definitely isn't 10mm tall...
Quote from: Last Hussar on 28 February 2024, 12:50:44 PMI know Orcs - he definitely isn't 10mm tall...
Throw Nobby your coat on the way out ;D ;D
1) I have a Dolman and Pelisse
2) Oy, Orcs, Kermit thinks you're a midget.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 28 February 2024, 04:33:11 PM2) Oy, Orcs, Kermit thinks you're a midget.
That's alright, while he was queuing Gents, I couldn't wait that long, so used his beer glass! :-& :-&
He didn't notice - I am not sure what that says for:-
A: The Beer here
B: His taste buds
C: How much Beer i have drunk.
It seems a bit awkard to bring this up, but doesn't Pendraken do a range of Night Orcs - or is that a typographical error?
QuoteIt seems a bit awkard to bring this up, but doesn't Pendraken do a range of Night Orcs - or is that a typographical error?
Apparently so
(https://www.pendraken.co.uk/user/products/large/spearmen-25--4740-p.jpg)
Norcs...
Quote from: Keraunos on 18 March 2024, 11:21:00 AMIt seems a bit awkard to bring this up, but doesn't Pendraken do a range of Night Orcs - or is that a typographical error?
They certainly do, but I was looking for just plain every day 'tolkien like' orcs. These are a rather differnt look & sculpt then what I wanted...so while I have some of Pendrakens goblins....there night orcs are a differnt range entirely.
One of the difficulties manufacturers have is havng to differentiate a product with others. (For a lot of differnt reasons).
QuoteApparently so
(https://www.pendraken.co.uk/user/products/large/spearmen-25--4740-p.jpg)
Hug a hoodie!
The greater good!
Leon, can we get some Goblin catapults added to the range please.
QuoteApparently so
(https://www.pendraken.co.uk/user/products/large/spearmen-25--4740-p.jpg)
Just needs a drummer pose and a bit of greenstuff.
Hey presto - Goth Rockband.
QuoteJust needs a drummer pose and a bit of greenstuff.
Hey presto - Goth Rockband.
Copplestone Castings make a "Band on the Run (https://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/prod.php?prod=216)", although as 28mm they are clearly far too big.
(https://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/images/img216.jpg)
Votes added!
Thought I'd raise this question again, the Goblin figures are 10mm to the eyes, so if we can have some slightly larger sculpts for Orcs 12mm to eyes that would be great.
Hopefully more like Lord of the Rings than GW but both would do nicely 😁
Quote from: far4ngn on 17 July 2025, 08:22:31 AMThought I'd raise this question again, the Goblin figures are 10mm to the eyes, so if we can have some slightly larger sculpts for Orcs 12mm to eyes that would be great.
Hopefully more like Lord of the Rings than GW but both would do nicely 😁
Interesting observation re GW & LotR. The GW LotR range, based in the film were, in my humble opinion, pretty much spot on. At least in my imagination. Tolkien describes Orcs as broken, twisred and corrupted elves, with regard to their origins (or 'back story' as it is now called).
So yes, that woukd be a good depiction.
I'm looking to see how Leon and the team integrate some of the 15mm ranges with the 12mm items... hopefully some twisted elves/orcs can emerge from that 👍
Quote from: Big Insect on 17 July 2025, 08:04:36 PMInteresting observation re GW & LotR. The GW LotR range, based in the film were, in my humble opinion, pretty much spot on. At least in my imagination. Tolkien describes Orcs as broken, twisred and corrupted elves, with regard to their origins (or 'back story' as it is now called).
So yes, that woukd be a good depiction.
Apart from the fact that Tolkien only refers to Orcs with Spears, bows and swords. No mention of Pikes or Crossbows for them.
Secondly I am not broken or twisted, but possibly corrupted. :)
Quote from: Orcs on 24 October 2025, 11:53:42 PMApart from the fact that Tolkien only refers to Orcs with Spears, bows and swords. No mention of Pikes or Crossbows for them.
Secondly I am not broken or twisted, but possibly corrupted. :)
Ah yes, the old pikes v lances v spears conundrum ... it's all a bit like the "how long is a piece of string?" question.
I'm not sure that Tolkien actually refers to crossbows specifically at all (although I am happy to be educated upon such matters).
"Wat's its gots in its pocketzes, my precious." - pieces of string, an old bit of half-chewed chewing gum, paper clips, dried up prunes, a nasty snotty tissue and the skeletons of boys who've crawled away to die (curtesy of N. Molesworth Esq.)
Quote from: Big Insect on 27 October 2025, 04:15:35 PMAh yes, the old pikes v lances v spears conundrum ... it's all a bit like the "how long is a piece of string?" question.
I'm not sure that Tolkien actually refers to crossbows specifically at all (although I am happy to be educated upon such matters).
"Wat's its gots in its pocketzes, my precious." - pieces of string, an old bit of half-chewed chewing gum, paper clips, dried up prunes, a nasty snotty tissue and the skeletons of boys who've crawled away to die (curtesy of N. Molesworth Esq.)
Tolkien mentions curved scimitars, short broad-bladed swords, spears, knives, and bows for the Orcs - Boromior dies from multiple arrow wounds.
I suspect the Pikes are for visual effect on the mass battle scenes, rather than accuracy.
Cozy accuracy in fantasy fiction is paramount?
I had the part work. The figures for the 9 were spot on.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 27 October 2025, 05:35:12 PMCozy accuracy in fantasy fiction is paramount?
Tolkien is historical fact! :D
I can see the T-shirt:
Tolkien is Trooof!
Quote from: Big Insect on 28 October 2025, 05:43:33 PMI can see the T-shirt:
Tolkien is Trooof!
I would wear dat
Just resurrecting the old Orc thread with a small pseudo-poll.
What kind of Orcs do you like the most?
More classic Tolkien-style?
More square and brutal?
More or less civilised?
To be honest, I had never really thought about it before. Better said, the question had never really occurred to me until now. It made me realise how many different interpretations of Orcs there actually are.
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/4/44/Monster_Manual_-_1D%26D_-_Orc_-_p76.png/revision/latest?cb=20141012193130)A
(https://i0.wp.com/delve-rpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Tim-Trueman-Orc-Story.png?w=594&ssl=1) B
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/0/0a/Monster_Manual_-_2D%26D_-_Orc_-_p281.png/revision/latest?cb=20221105160436) C
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/064/953/272/large/henrik-rosenborg-vampyr.jpg?1689154100) D
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8o8f6XmZclM3EVrcw7Kj2KBNZs2qupKByIg&s) E
(https://preview.redd.it/if-someone-asked-me-for-a-single-piece-of-artwork-that-v0-6f9y7pz5zwxc1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a5dbcbcb8d7ef0d3d6f70fbf6d520a23bd4bb372) F
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0M0w1QahAnk6UkU-kNblWKV6DIYOdujCfig&s) G
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTzkH0BFksikGONCAmBXEHA3MQm-dFItcksQ&s) H
(https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/951895.jpg?maxWidth=1800) I
And another question: is there any type of Orc you feel is missing or underrepresented?
Curious to hear everyone's preferences!
Since Orcs are corrupted elves I would have gone with E for a very long time but alas my vision of Orcs has been corrupted by the evil empire and these days if I think of Orcs it is G that comes to mind.
Though they are most definitely brown skinned not green!
On the other hand, influenced by Alan Garner, I often think of goblins as piebald black and white.
'A' .... ah yes ... them wuz the days!
25mm scale Minifigs LotR 'pig-orcs' you gotta luv em :D :D :D
(still available from Minifigs I gather)
Well, there is this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunts
QuoteWell, there is this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunts
Well, that link sent me down a rather unexpected rabbit hole...
Which led me to discover this absolute gem from the 80s:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085625/
The whole thing has very strong orc vibes to be honest. I'm half convinced someone in fantasy design must have watched this at some point for inspiration! 😄
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zxEAAOSwkYhmTQXz/s-l400.jpg)
the opposite of the old adage ..."where the sun don't shine!" :'( :'( :'(
My personal vote would be for option 'E'
There is also the additional approach from the Will Smith film 'Shine' of course, but that's more of a 'modern' take on things.
Personally I would go with E. I felt the old Vendal Miniatures Orcs/Goblins were spot on.
Well, if anybody knows about what an orc looks like...
As a die-hard Tolkien anal-purist, I'm happy with anything that has long arms, bow-legs and a "sallow face" that wields a scimitar. Have to say that the Pendraken 'Goblin' range is pretty in-line and canon for me.
I would love to see Pendraken produce some larger Uruk-Hai.
Somewhere between D and E is my sweet-spot.
D and E would be my pick
A are my favourite Orcs
I meet Orcs in two settings.
Tabletop battles, usually playing as the fatalist shock troops / cannon fodder.
Wave attacks, prefer an epic ending to surviving the campaign....
E, G or I work in that role.
Individual Characters in Role Playing games.
Here they are far more civilised and able to co-exist in human society.
Somewhere close to Tolkien's ruffians form Bree.
For this I'm inclined toward H - but with better tailoring.
The difference between wargaming and role playing gaming.
A wargamer brings hundreds of figures and one rulebook.
A role player brings one figure (or none) and multiple rule books.
In my RPG campaigns civilised orcs are definitely not a thing.
An Orc's appearance, like their lives, is nasty, brutish and short.
In Harn, my setting for my later fantasy campaigns, Gargun are the orc and goblin equivalents. In the Harn background Gargun are cave dwelling and oviparous. So my Gargun emerge from their eggs and receive their first sustenance not from mother's milk but from those of their siblings who have not yet emerged from their eggs.
A Gargun's thoughts are centred on the Four F's. "Can I fight it, f**k it, feed on it or set fire to it?"
Make Orcs Great Again
Wondered how long that would take!
I have a 6mm army of Orange Orcs for FWC - they tend to be impetuous and bloodthirsty with a low CV.
Just saying ....
I'm a fan of the old Tolkein/Vallejo style orcs although I cut my teeth on Citadel/Marauder orcs from WHFB 3rd/4th edition.
QuotePersonally I would go with E. I felt the old Vendal Miniatures Orcs/Goblins were spot on.
(https://i.imgur.com/wC613Vk.jpg)
They remind me very much of the Orcs from the 1978 Lord of the Rings movie.
The Vendal orcs are too well armoured for my taste
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Quote from: Ithoriel on 11 March 2026, 02:34:44 PMThe Vendal orcs are too well armoured for my taste
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You can always use the Vendal Goblins
QuoteIn my RPG campaigns civilised orcs are definitely not a thing.
An Orc's appearance, like their lives, is nasty, brutish and short.
I am continually shocked by how a great race like that of the Orcs has been traduced by the malicious propaganda of the Men of the West and their lackeys. If only people studied the chronicles of their development AFTER the "Unpleasantness of Orodruin".
Some of which you can find here:ORCS (https://gfarrish.wordpress.com/orcs/)