One of the interesting features of the new website is the ability to filter a group of products down to finetune what's visible.
So for example we can go through our historical ranges and assign them as Infantry / Cavalry / Artillery / Command / Other. This would trigger a filter bar on the left hand side where you can pick and choose what to see. Or we could go through our WWII ranges and add a Theatre attribute so that you can filter them down to Early / Desert / Eastern Front, etc.
Some of these attributes are easier to do than others so I've started on the simple Infantry / Cavalry / etc ones at the moment ready for our launch.
So, does anyone fancy helping out with this task?
The first place we'd like to start is with the Modern Vehicles section as there's over 100 products in there now. It would be great to be able to sort those by Nation (both manufactured by and used by) and then by Conflict/War. So if you're looking to build a US Korean army you could filter down to just 'USA' and 'Korean War' to get what you need. Or a Cold War French army, etc.
We can then look at the WWII ranges as the next option. And then potentially combine a lot of the SCW categories into a larger product list and put the different factions/militias into the filters instead.
We'll obviously make it worth your while with some Pendraken-y credit or similar...!
Let me know if anyone fancies it and we can have a chat.
I'm thinking about it - got some more detail
When you get into the gee-gee section I'll be glad to help if I can.
Sign me up!
Just checking - the M48 was (according to Wiki) used in:
Cold War
1958 Lebanon crisis
Portuguese Colonial War
Dominican Civil War
Vietnam War
Six-Day War
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Yom Kippur War
Western Sahara War
Lebanese Civil War
Turkish invasion of Cyprus
Iran–Iraq War
Battle of Mogadishu (1993)
Kurdish–Turkish conflict
2007 Lebanon conflict
It is/was used by 20+ countries.
I am assuming it would be classified here as (for example) Cold War, Vietnam, Arab-Israeli?
(https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/392947706_710361537796113_6753578081282086716_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bamfqKSeTLgAX9ZJ-dL&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-1.fna&oh=00_AfB-3jEZGPQOtgVYALKtO4SuHmPvAqKaY_Ftd39glLn94g&oe=6538035F)
I know very little about the modern stuff - when you get to WW2 happy to help
Is that the 90mm or 105mm M48? ;)
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 21 October 2023, 06:16:05 AMI'm thinking about it - got some more detail
Quote from: fsn on 21 October 2023, 12:57:01 PMSign me up!
Just checking - the M48 was (according to Wiki) used in:
Cold War
1958 Lebanon crisis
Portuguese Colonial War
Dominican Civil War
Vietnam War
Six-Day War
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971
Yom Kippur War
Western Sahara War
Lebanese Civil War
Turkish invasion of Cyprus
Iran–Iraq War
Battle of Mogadishu (1993)
Kurdish–Turkish conflict
2007 Lebanon conflict
It is/was used by 20+ countries.
I am assuming it would be classified here as (for example) Cold War, Vietnam, Arab-Israeli?
Yep, pretty much exactly what fsn has done here, but limited to the main conflicts and operators during those? So for the M48 Patton example we'd have something like:
M48 PattonOperators:
USA, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Pakistan, North Vietnam, South Vietnam, West Germany Conflicts:
Vietnam, Arab-Israeli, Indo-Pakistan, Iran-Iraq, Cold WarI can send a spreadsheet to one / both of you with the MDV codes and columns setup ready for the data?
Quote from: Orcs on 21 October 2023, 02:36:03 PMI know very little about the modern stuff - when you get to WW2 happy to help
Definitely, I'll get the basic Infantry / Command / Support ones done first and then we can look at theatres maybe.
As a general query on that, if you're in our WWII British Infantry category for example, would these feel like logical filter categories:
Infantry - rifles, brens, stens, etc.
Support - mortars, HMGs, Piats, etc.
Command - officers, radio ops, spotters, telephone, etc.
Casualties
Where would you expect to find AT rifle teams? Or tank commander head/torso figures?
THe Boys would be best in the "Infantry Section I suspect, as would the 2" Mortar and Piat. All are in effect platoon weapons. 3" Mortar , Vickers MG as support.
Quote from: Leon on 21 October 2023, 10:16:42 PMI can send a spreadsheet to one / both of you with the MDV codes and columns setup ready for the data?
Please. It gives us a starting point.
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 October 2023, 06:27:55 AMTHe Boys would be best in the "Infantry Section I suspect, as would the 2" Mortar and Piat. All are in effect platoon weapons. 3" Mortar , Vickers MG as support.
Hmmm. I'm trying to put together a "ruleset" for the C20 and later. I was following Lord Kermit's thought process, and was thinking that "infantry" would include weapon systems at platoon level. This would include the 2" mortar. Support would be higher level like the 3" mortar, but the definition of what goes where would depend upon the way a weapon was deployed in a particular army, at a particular time.
An MG42 could be at platoon level, and then on a tripod more likely to be in a support company?
Whatever you do, it will not fit everything, always. I suggest rifles, SMG, and LMGs in "infantry" (and I realise there is a problem there with the aforesaid MG42) and AT weapons, HMGs, missile launchers, flame throwers and mortars of all stripes go into "support".
No, it's not perfect, but it is easy.
Tank commanders would be "command"
Yes, an MG34/42 being fired prone or carried while moving is Infantry but the same weapon tripod mounted is Support.
No easy divisions!
That said, I see no reason an item shouldn't appear in several sections.
Tank commanders being both Command and Vehicles for example?
Just a thought.
*grump* be much easier if we started at the other end of history. */grump*
More than happy to help!
The kind of stuff I really enjoy - happy to get the spreadsheet
QuoteDefinitely, I'll get the basic Infantry / Command / Support ones done first and then we can look at theatres maybe.
As a general query on that, if you're in our WWII British Infantry category for example, would these feel like logical filter categories:
Infantry - rifles, brens, stens, etc.
Support - mortars, HMGs, Piats, etc.
Command - officers, radio ops, spotters, telephone, etc.
Casualties
Where would you expect to find AT rifle teams? Or tank commander head/torso figures?
Can I suggest a different approach. When I am browsing for figures I care far more about what uniform they have, rather than what weapons they have. For example for WWII, for a given nationality, I would rather be able to find troops in Desert kit, or Airborne, or Late War or Winter Kit. As this lets me know the breadth of figures available for a specific force. This applies for WWI too, and I think works going back earlier too, where different uniforms were worn for different campaigns.
Being able to find all support weapons, wouldn't be so helpful as I'd get back a list of 8cm mortar DAK, 8cm Mortar early war, 8cm Mortar, 8cm Mortar FJ, MG42 DAK etc.
And I'd generally rather scroll through 20 results, than have to click 4 times and go back 4 times to see 20 results split into 4 groups of 5. So having categories that are broad enough feels useful too.
Yes a spread sheet would help....
Quote from: fsn on 22 October 2023, 10:15:48 AMWhatever you do, it will not fit everything, always.
This is very true! No doubt we'll get emails as soon as the website launches to tell us that something is in the wrong category.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 22 October 2023, 11:16:41 AMThat said, I see no reason an item shouldn't appear in several sections.
That's fine as well, we can add items to multiple categories.
Quote from: Scorpio_Rocks on 22 October 2023, 12:55:06 PMMore than happy to help!
The kind of stuff I really enjoy - happy to get the spreadsheet
Excellent, any preference on which ranges? We're probably looking at WWII at the moment I think so I could split those ranges between a few of the volunteers?
Quote from: fred. on 22 October 2023, 01:59:19 PMCan I suggest a different approach. When I am browsing for figures I care far more about what uniform they have, rather than what weapons they have. For example for WWII, for a given nationality, I would rather be able to find troops in Desert kit, or Airborne, or Late War or Winter Kit. As this lets me know the breadth of figures available for a specific force.
That's kinda what I mean by the Theatre categorising, so more specific than just 'Europe'. We could have Early War, Late War, North Africa, Pacific, Eastern Front, Ardennes, anything really.
Thanks for the responses everyone, I've sent out some spreadsheets tonight and I'll crack on with getting the rest of the site ready for the launch!