Hi I am putting together some armies for Dux Bellorum and was wondering if anyone knows what to use for 10mm Dark Age Saxon Cavalry? I cannot use the Normans as they have the kite shield and am pretty sure the Saxons would have used a round shield.
Thanks
William
Have a look at the Later Romans in the Ancients.
Maybe the Picts?
Depends upon your interpretation of Saxon Cavalry. :-\
Tricky. For the earliest period I've used some figures from the late roman range as Saxons were often foederati or had served Rome before with some unarmoured types like the numidians acr7. More adventurous gamers will probably do head or top body swaps from even more diverse ranges.
If you do not already know, the Late Roman range has other figures suitable for C5 or early C6 DB Saxon armies. Also take a look at the Dacian range as some in each pack might suit.
For later types I was forced in desperation to turn to other sources like Lancashire (Welsh) or Baggage Train (goth cavalry) but you may need to put such in separate units due to compatibility. [and easier to swap out when Pendraken do produce a comprehensive set of Late Rome enemies]
AGA 6 Gallic cavalry might suffice
I would use 10-NML14 (Horses, saddled) and AS2 (Huscarls) on the grounds that all my reading suggests those Saxons with horses rode to battle but dismounted to fight! Though they do seem to have mounted up again on occasion to pursue a routing enemy, to be fair.
Have you had a look at the Arab Heavy Cavalry in the Dark Ages Range? I know it sounds unlikely, but they might do?
QuoteDepends upon your interpretation of Saxon Cavalry. :-\
And "Dark Age". Post-Roman Anglo-Saxon invasion? Alfred vs the Great Heathen Army? 1066 and all that?
Later Roman unarmoured cavalry fill that role in several of my dark age armies
Early Saxon Cavalry probably looked a lot like a ragged mix of unarmoured dark age 'types' (the Picts might do, but Saxons wore trousers & Picts tended to be bare-legged) with rounded shields and armoured & helmeted Carolingian types (again with round shields) both with short spears & long swords.
The Gauls tend to have oval shields, as do the Romano-British, so are not ideal.
Moravian Franks are probably the closest match, if you cannot find any actual Saxon Cavalry.
Also, the amount of Saxon cavalry as a % of an army would probably be quite small. Even the mounted Huscarls of the Anglo-Danish era (Hastings) were probably not really very good at fighting on horseback either.
Thanks Guys will have to check out all the suggestions. It would only be 8-16 figures so not a lot of figures needed so some modifications would not be too big of a task.
QuoteHave you had a look at the Arab Heavy Cavalry in the Dark Ages Range? I know it sounds unlikely, but they might do?
I came here to suggest the same (Code AB9).
You may feel the need to adjust the helmet a little.
(Do people head-swap 10mms).
Quote from: DecemDave on 09 October 2023, 08:20:45 AMwhen Pendraken do produce a comprehensive set of Late Rome enemies
Tell me this is so...
Quote from: Corso on 17 December 2023, 08:16:43 PMTell me this is so...
Not planned just yet I'm afraid!