Pendraken Miniatures Forum

Wider Wargaming => Non-Pendraken Stuff => Topic started by: Corso on 10 September 2023, 10:37:16 AM

Title: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 10 September 2023, 10:37:16 AM
Anyone play it with Pendraken figures? Fred mentioned it and I was wondering since I'll have a load left over when I put my Drums and Shakos forces together whether to give it a go.

My other options would be French and Indians war or ACW



Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 September 2023, 10:52:39 AM
Should work fine...
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 10 September 2023, 11:00:52 AM
Hoping others can show off their work, can't decide how to base the figures since the game requires figure removal

The skirmish units are 6 minus, so I'm thinking 3,2,1 would work but line are 8 per unit, I prefer round bases but can't find trays that fit
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 September 2023, 11:39:26 AM
Single basing with sabots to accomodate 4-6 figures should work well. Only used 28's for the system and it has been some time but there were no problems with movement. Exact move distance is only needed for 1 figure from memory which makes it easier.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 10 September 2023, 11:45:11 AM
There are two approaches depending on your budget and table size.

Keep the figure count with a smaller measurement unit.
A bit fiddly for some, and arrangements like 3-2-1, 3-2-2-1 (3-3-1-1) and 3-3-2-1-1 don't suit everybody.

Stick with the original scale, but stick 2 or 3 little men on each base.
You're then playing with formations "one up" from those intended.
There's scope for some creative layout of your 2 or 3 10mm men on their bases.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 10 September 2023, 12:00:33 PM
I plan to try the 1,2,3 approach for skirmish troops but was hoping for multiples of 4 for the regulars, I wanted 15mm round bases as aminimum but might need to look at square bases instead asI can't find sabbots that will fit the round bases I have been using
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 September 2023, 12:04:14 PM
Try Warbases - do a range of sabots lots sized for pennies.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: fred. on 10 September 2023, 12:41:10 PM
I went with round bases, and 3, 2, 1 for 6 figure units and 3, 2, 2, 1 for 8 figure units. 

You can swap out stands to account for different number of casualties. Works great. 

British photos https://imgur.com/a/5A5Si0o

(https://i.imgur.com/Ev5nr1g.jpg)

French photos (https://imgur.com/a/BorvyVe)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZmQD9Bh.jpg)

An in game photo
(https://i.imgur.com/6gDBVyj.jpg)
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: mmcv on 10 September 2023, 01:12:27 PM
I went with individually based for line and 3-2-1 for skirmishers.

For the line I magnetised the bases and made "invisible" movement trays by cutting strips of ferrous paper to size and using them.

(https://i.imgur.com/c0OQUgH.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eqJypZS.jpeg)
You can see more here https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/category/periods-projects/colonial/
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 10 September 2023, 01:40:55 PM
Fred. Mmcv you're not helping both those options look great  :D
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 September 2023, 02:26:51 PM
We all aim to confuse !!  :d
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 15 September 2023, 11:01:41 AM
I have a plan for the bases

Also picking up a couple of packs of newline minis, think the rest will be pendraken

The newlines are OK but there is very little face detail, don't get me wrong I'm not expecting more than cheeks, chins and noses but these aren't great

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/16577-150923105752.jpeg)
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Last Hussar on 15 September 2023, 11:43:27 AM
Had SP for years, but never played it - Have been edging towards the 25mm I have from years ago, but now thinking 10mm...*

How many "Regular line" figures do you need a side? Add to that the 'Big Men' or whatever Rich has called them in this.

*A few months ago I had a conversation with Sunjester along the lines of 'I don't see myself buying any new armies, maybe just rounding out what I have...'
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 15 September 2023, 11:49:02 AM
Skirmish troops are 6 per unit

Regulars are sections of 8

Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 15 September 2023, 12:06:46 PM
And your big men are individuals, need to be identifiable.
Officer figures, Sergeants doing sergeant things (waving arms about or pointing in 10mm).

I'f you're doing a 3:1 variant on 28mm scale bases, command groups work well here.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Last Hussar on 15 September 2023, 12:08:19 PM
How many sections of 8? (I' could dig the book up, or I could just ask you young bucks.)
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 15 September 2023, 12:23:26 PM
Haven't been called young in a while :)

I think it is flexible depending on the army list 2FL have lists on their forum


Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: mmcv on 15 September 2023, 09:57:48 PM

QuoteI have a plan for the bases

Also picking up a couple of packs of newline minis, think the rest will be pendraken

The newlines are OK but there is very little face detail, don't get me wrong I'm not expecting more than cheeks, chins and noses but these aren't great

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/16577-150923105752.jpeg)
Newline have some nice figures but agree the faces are fairly basic. Saying that I rarely paint More than a blob for the faces anyway so no loss there. Always astounded by those with the skill, time and patience to paint face details!
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: mmcv on 15 September 2023, 10:03:38 PM

QuoteHow many sections of 8? (I' could dig the book up, or I could just ask you young bucks.)
Three line and two skirmisher units would give you enough for a basic game. Typical 5 or 6 units and 2 or 3 leaders make up most armies, so pretty small to get going. Two packs from pendraken and maybe a command figure or two.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 15 September 2023, 10:59:37 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 15 September 2023, 09:57:48 PMNewline have some nice figures but agree the faces are fairly basic. Saying that I rarely paint More than a blob for the faces anyway so no loss there. Always astounded by those with the skill, time and patience to paint face details!


I'm happy with basic, these are more lumpy blobs. Out of 20 I have 5 or 6 that I can make ok

Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Last Hussar on 19 September 2023, 12:00:20 PM
I spent a frustrating visit to the Lardies message board - though it has a lot of lists posted, the links are mostly not working anymore.

Doesn't help that my rules have got wet at some point, so the bottom cm or so is stuck together. Mostly have separated ok, or the tear hasn't mattered, but I have lost the middle of one paragraph, and I don't know yet how important it will be.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: fred. on 19 September 2023, 06:14:00 PM
Have a look at this blog https://cerromanteca1811.wordpress.com/ has a very comprehensive set of Peninsular Lists for SP.
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 22 September 2023, 04:20:58 PM
Thanks that'll be handy

Just waiting for an order to come in

While I was waiting I painted a couple more of the newline as 5/60th rifles

I think I'm getting to grips with the scale

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/16577-220923161345-60116420.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/60/16577-220923161345-601172282.jpeg)

Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: mmcv on 22 September 2023, 07:19:13 PM
Very nice work
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Last Hussar on 25 September 2023, 12:12:29 PM
I've been wondering about basing - you are going with round bases then?
Title: Re: 10mm sharp practice
Post by: Corso on 26 September 2023, 05:47:20 AM
I'm going with round for skirmish units  and square for rank