We've got the next batch of modern vehicles ready and this time we're looking at the Brits with Chieftains and FV432s on the way.
We've gone to town a bit on the 432s with Mk1 and Mk2-1 options of each version, including APC, 81mm mortar, Wombat, engineer, command and Ranger. We've also got the FV433 'Abbot', FV436 and FV438, all of which shared the same base chassis.
Following on from those are the Chieftains! From Cold War Europe to the Iraq Wars, these are still in use around the world today and should prove a popular addition.
There's also a random SU-57 hiding in here too, as a quick addition to the WWII Soviet ranges...
These are all going into master moulds this week and we'll get straight onto the production moulds early next month.
FV432 Mk 1 - APC / 81mm mortar / Wombat:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073040212_e894bcbc13_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcPs)ModVeh1 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcPs) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
FV432 Mk 1 - Command / Engineer / Ranger:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073040227_0e7e2db1b5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcPH)ModVeh2 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcPH) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
FV432 Mk 1 & Mk 2-1 with peaked turret:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53074024345_170420e5f4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRYfng)ModVeh3 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRYfng) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
FV432 Mk 2-1 - APC / 81mm mortar / Wombat:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073616091_cf6a6b6d3e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRWa1p)ModVeh4 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRWa1p) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
FV432 Mk 2-1 - Command / Engineer / Ranger:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53074024310_a0f7b43394_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRYfmE)ModVeh5 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRYfmE) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
FV436 and FV438:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073040162_29cbc23f69_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcNA)ModVeh6 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcNA) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
Abbot and SU-57 halftrack:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073040157_49308d3a16_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcNv)ModVeh7 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRTcNv) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
Chieftain Mk 2:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073616076_5b944b33ba_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRWa19)ModVeh8 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRWa19) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
Chieftain Mk 5 and Mk 6:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53073616056_4ff94a362d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRW9ZN)ModVeh9 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRW9ZN) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
Chieftain Mk 10 and Mk 11:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53074120723_84dfb5a0b4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRYK1X)ModVeh10 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRYK1X) by Leon Pengilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156736924@N08/), on Flickr
Looking good - fully embracing 3D printed vehicle masters, I see. Makes a lot of sense for vehicles where there are known measurements and variants can be pretty easily created from the base model.
Look great!
What's the FV432 'Ranger' variant? Is that a missile battery on the roof? And a towed . . . something?
Ranger is a mine layer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L10_Ranger_anti-personnel_mine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L10_Ranger_anti-personnel_mine)
I have to say that one of these releases is not like then others.
Then I have to say "wow! =P~ "
Rather sadly, but probably not unexpectedly, I'm really excited to see the Abbott.
Wonderful masters and good to see the 3D printed option a viable route now :) .
Wow. Fantastic. . .finally
They all look great.
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Look good but the Mk 2 Cheify is a bit of a dead end, very few used for troop trials only. Similar with the Mk3 - first major production version is the Mk 5. Dont think there is a Mk 4 for some reason.
Mk 4 was a prototype for Israel?
Quote from: fsn on 27 July 2023, 12:49:10 PMMk 4 was a prototype for Israel?
Could be....
Quote from: fsn on 27 July 2023, 12:49:10 PMMk 4 was a prototype for Israel?
Yes, they were taken out for trials, and the Israelis sent our blokes home minus the tanks.
QuoteRanger is a mine layer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L10_Ranger_anti-personnel_mine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L10_Ranger_anti-personnel_mine)
Huh! Everyday's a school day. Thanks.
QuoteLook good but the Mk 2 Cheify is a bit of a dead end, very few used for troop trials only. Similar with the Mk3 - first major production version is the Mk 5.
Hmmm . . . thought the Mk.2, Mk.3 and Mk.5 were all production versions, and served in the frontline? Every mark later is an upgrade of one of these.
Somebody calm Nobby down, please.
Quote from: Raider4 on 27 July 2023, 08:40:54 PMHmmm . . . thought the Mk.2, Mk.3 and Mk.5 were all production versions, and served in the frontline? Every mark later is an upgrade of one of these.
Sort of, 50 Mk 2 for trials Mk 3 production, Mk 5 main version...
Very impressive Leon.
Hi
When I first joined my squadron (Ajax, 2RTR, Münster) in September 1974 I'm pretty sure we had a mixture of Chieftain Mk2's and Mk3's (and a Centurion ARV in the Light Aid Detachment)! The Mk2's I seem to remember were fairly quickly replaced with up graded models but I'm pretty sure the Mk3's were with us for some time.
Cheers Paul
All looking great Leon - well done - my Berlin Brigade project is starting to move closer to becoming a reality :D
QuoteAll looking great Leon - well done - my Berlin Brigade project is starting to move closer to becoming a reality :D
:-bd But need the FV432 with the Fox turret for that mind.
QuoteLooking good - fully embracing 3D printed vehicle masters, I see. Makes a lot of sense for vehicles where there are known measurements and variants can be pretty easily created from the base model.
It's definitely a much easier route to new masters, we can resize if needed, tweak them if we want, and print replacements if there's any problems during moulding. There is a cost implication though, these new 3D designs are coming in at 30%-50% more expensive than our traditional modellers.
Quote:-bd But need the FV432 with the Fox turret for that mind.
16 different FV432s and of course we're missing one! It shouldn't be too hard to add that turret though, so we'll have a chat with the designer. Does anyone know if that turret was put on the Mk 1 or the Mk 2-1 hull?
Mk 1 Hulls as far as I can remember, 2LI had them in 74/5 when I did a 2 week attatchment.
Quote from: Raider4 on 28 July 2023, 07:16:23 PM:-bd But need the FV432 with the Fox turret for that mind.
True - but Leon does the Fox - so a pretty straight forward conversion (I suspect) :)
QuoteTrue - but Leon does the Fox - so a pretty straight forward conversion (I suspect) :)
That's what I thought, but I couldn't find the Fox on the website?
The Chieftain Mk.1 and Mk.2 are getting mixed up.
Production numbers are:
40x Mk.1
300+ x Mk.2 (1967)
500+ x Mk.3 (1970)
2x Mk.4 for Israel (1974)
100x Mk.5 (1973)
Mk.6 are Mk.2 rebuilt to Mk.5 standard, so ~ 300 (c1978) with IINF in theory
Mk.7 are Mk.3 rebuilt to Mk.6 standard, so anything from a few-500 (c1979 with IINF)
Mk.8 is a Mk.5 with minor upgrades, so maybe 100 (c1979)
Mk.6, 7 and 8 were all upgraded to Mk.9 from 1983, so from 400 to 900, with FSAPDS.
Mk.10 Stiibrew I haven't found conversion numbers (1987)
Mk.11 Stillbrew x324 converted (from 1987)
Some data from Robert Griffin Chieftain MBT, Photosniper 7 book
Quote from: Raider4 on 29 July 2023, 10:03:13 AMThat's what I thought, but I couldn't find the Fox on the website?
I think I might have misled you ... apologies ... I'm not sure the Fox has appeared in the range yet.
Quote from: Big Insect on 29 July 2023, 01:25:21 PMI think I might have misled you ... apologies ... I'm not sure the Fox has appeared in the range yet.
That is because it is Fox on the Run
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 29 July 2023, 05:44:04 PMThat is because it is Fox on the Run
That was a sweet joke ;)
I only just got that.
Well played, Sir, well played.
=D> =D> =D>
Quote from: fsn on 31 July 2023, 07:40:57 AMI only just got that.
Covid jabs should cure it ?
Why is Pendraken like a tribe whose leaders have all been killed?
No Chieftains.
Why is Pendraken like a nunnery?
No Abbots
Why is Pendraken like a Glasgow Celtic crowd?
No Rangers
How is Pendraken different from arson in a playground?
No Swingfire
Why is Pendraken like "The Fauna and Flora of Micronesia as discovered by Captain J W Cribbage in his voyage on the HMS Shakespeare, 1821-1822" (Originally published privately)?
No Wombats
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"Soon (tm): a period up to but not including the next Ice Age" - Crowd Control Productions every time people repeatedly asked when a new feature would be introduced to EVE Online
I'm sure Pendraken's timescales are shorter :)
Technically, this is Sunray's fault. He started the rumour at Christmas. So I've been very good for eight months and, most importantly, I have a gift voucher!
I understand (as does anyone who has seen him dancing) that the Dark Lord moves in mysterious ways, and I appreciate there are all sorts of technical and scheduling issue to be overcome, but I have a gift voucher.
Finally, and perhaps most compellingly, I have to mention thatI have ... a flippin' ... gift ... voucher, and there are only 23 months left on it. :(
Good news on the Chieftains, I've prepped those and put them in the moulding room today ready for Dave to get on with them next week. Sadly we've had to reprint some of the FV432s though, as the rear hatch panels were a bit too thin and we were getting miscasts from the master mould.
I'm away for a few days next week but I'll get the Chieftains released as soon as I get back.
That's all very well, but did I mention I have a gift voucher?
Thanks of the update. :)
Just out of interest FSN, did you know Pendraken does gift vouchers?
I had heard a whisper to that effect ... like that one that whispers "buy Chieftains" constantly.
Who the hell wants Chieftains :-\ ?
You after M1s?
Only if going north.
QuoteOnly if going north.
Invading Canada???
Quote from: Raider4 on 22 August 2023, 07:23:04 AMInvading Canada???
No only goes as far as Yorkshire - 250 mile traffic jam..... :'( :'( :'( :'(