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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: FierceKitty on 12 June 2023, 11:55:24 AM

Title: Panama
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 June 2023, 11:55:24 AM
Has anyone here ever considered gaming Drake's Panama involvement? It seems to have potential, and what's needed is also available. Pirate figures for Cimarron runaway slave groups, ancient Indian forest tribesmen for the natives, Elizabethan sea dogs....
Title: Re: Panama
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 June 2023, 12:13:37 PM
All you got to do is persuade Leon to make the Galleons....
Title: Re: Panama
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 June 2023, 01:25:52 PM
I'd scale them down and use 1:1200 Navwar.
Title: Re: Panama
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 June 2023, 02:24:16 PM
Not a bad idea. Revell used to make a Galleas at about 1/350...
Title: Re: Panama
Post by: fsn on 12 June 2023, 03:34:32 PM
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Title: Re: Panama
Post by: fred. on 12 June 2023, 03:36:04 PM
Not specifically Panama - but have thought about this type of conflict from looking at force lists in Irregular Wars
Title: Re: Panama
Post by: pierre the shy on 12 June 2023, 07:00:23 PM
Certainly an interesting period to game Kitty.

The early European expansion into the Carribbean area in the 1500 - 1600 period was mainly by "a few good men" in a few ships, so gaming wise I guess Drake's period of operations would be better depicted as skirmish type action rather than with an "pirate army". Or if you do use that scale there would not be a lot of units on either side?

Larger troop numbers (with much more formal "European" style battles) begin to appear in the 17th Century once the Spanish administration has had time to become well established and other European powers become "interested" in the area and send formal expeditionary forces (such as Cromwell and Co's Western Direction of 1655) to various places to establish themselves in the new world....the rest, as they say, is history :)