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Title: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: whubble on 08 June 2023, 03:08:49 AM
Can anyone suggest which horses can best be used for the dismounted ECW dragoons? I'm planning to use 'spare' artillery crewman as actual horse holder. Many thanks :)
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2023, 06:05:57 AM
Within the Animals range there are horses without riders
https://www.pendraken.co.uk/horses-saddled-5199-p.asp
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fsn on 08 June 2023, 07:29:29 AM
Quote from: whubble on 08 June 2023, 03:08:49 AM... 'spare' artillery crewman ...
The what now?

I'm with Fred on the extra horses. I was considering the peasants as horse holders. Cut off the polearm and they may well do.
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: whubble on 08 June 2023, 08:31:15 AM
Thank you both for your advice. 8)
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: Zippee on 08 June 2023, 10:12:20 AM
Wouldn't horse holders remain mounted? That seems to be the common way in more recent (better documented) times?
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2023, 10:53:04 AM
QuoteWouldn't horse holders remain mounted? That seems to be the common way in more recent (better documented) times?
That breaks wargaming convention!!!

I get the idea though - easier to control the big beasties from another one. I wonder if it depends on expected time dismounted?
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fsn on 08 June 2023, 11:34:28 AM
*mind blown*



Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 June 2023, 11:50:05 AM
I am of the opinion that holders would dismount, otherwise one of the beasts would be exhausted having 90 Kg of me on it's back...
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fsn on 08 June 2023, 12:43:27 PM
*mind re-blown*
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: mollinary on 08 June 2023, 12:52:30 PM
The famous Streeter engraving of Naseby shows the horseholders for Okey's parliamentary dragoons as dismounted.
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fsn on 08 June 2023, 03:41:50 PM
(https://ecwbattles.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/okeys-action-at-naseby.jpg)

It does indeed.
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: Zippee on 10 June 2023, 08:40:04 AM
Quote from: mollinary on 08 June 2023, 12:52:30 PMThe famous Streeter engraving of Naseby shows the horseholders for Okey's parliamentary dragoons as dismounted.

Fair enough then, that's as close to a contemporary (1647) photo as we're likely to get!
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: mollinary on 10 June 2023, 10:37:12 AM

QuoteFair enough then, that's as close to a contemporary (1647) photo as we're likely to get!
My thoughts exactly! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: DecemDave on 10 June 2023, 04:48:12 PM
I know this is a bit Irregular on this forum but another manufacturer makes a dismounted ECW horse holder with horse. Although relative sizes suggest the lads picked the 15 year old to be horse holder.
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fsn on 10 June 2023, 05:15:41 PM
HERETIC! Drinks for all Colonels and above!


If I have a 15 figure squadron (which I don't, but it makes the maths easier) the of the 15, 3 remain mounted as a command group, and each horse holder holds 4 horses, so I only need 3 horse holders per 15 mounted. This means I'll probably only need 6-9 for each army that I've planned.

I'll try the peasants and see how that goes. 
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: Raider4 on 10 June 2023, 07:40:48 PM

QuoteI'll try the peasants and see how that goes. 
Certainly. Would sir like them roasted, baked or boiled?
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: fsn on 11 June 2023, 06:16:06 AM
 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 13 June 2023, 10:12:47 AM
With a little trimming would not MAL22 the WSS horse holder and horse work?
https://www.pendraken.co.uk/horse-holder-with-horse-5-pairs-1604-p.asp (https://www.pendraken.co.uk/horse-holder-with-horse-5-pairs-1604-p.asp)
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 June 2023, 10:25:01 AM
OK, if the original question is answered I have a supplementary.

If there are dismounted ECW horses are there mounted ECW horses? If so, what do they ride? :)

Sorry, I knew exactly what you meant, whubble, but the title has made me giggle every time I caught up on this thread. 
Title: Re: Dismounted ECW horses
Post by: whubble on 14 June 2023, 01:42:14 AM
I am pleased that you have been amused. Really surprised and grateful for all the replies. Many, many thanks to all. Cheers 8)