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Title: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 17 April 2023, 09:33:48 AM
Brecon Beacons has now 'Officially' changed to Welsh name.
Now, some of you live in Wales, may speak and pronounce Welsh language and place names... ok... you live there.
But imagine bewhildered squaddies!  :o  ;D
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65274952
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 April 2023, 09:38:54 AM
Think the military will ignore it. If given a stupid order salute say sir and carry on doing what you were doing before.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 17 April 2023, 10:11:38 AM
Barely an inconvenience compared to the tongue twisters found in historic battle honours.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Gwydion on 17 April 2023, 10:17:50 AM
Doesn't take much to bewilder a squaddie.

Might make an interesting test on Selection though- now pronounce Bannau Brycheiniog :D
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Raider4 on 17 April 2023, 10:57:39 AM
So it's now called Bannau Brycheiniog in Welsh.

The English can still carry on using the English name, rather like the way they use Germany and Munich, rather than Deutschland and München, can't they?
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: howayman on 17 April 2023, 11:04:53 AM
And i am sure we will.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Gwydion on 17 April 2023, 11:13:09 AM
It's a complete non story.
It has always been Bannau Brycheiniog in Welsh and now a Park in Wales is officially using the Welsh name.
The Shock! The Horror!
Only the local MP and a few jaded news editors want to make something of it.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: flamingpig0 on 17 April 2023, 09:08:03 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brecon-beacons-name-change-boris-johnson-b2321272.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brecon-beacons-name-change-boris-johnson-b2321272.html)
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Last Hussar on 17 April 2023, 09:15:32 PM
Personally I think you should always what the natives call a place; Wein,  Goteborg, etc. After all you call a person Jaques, not John, and it's now Beijing,  not Peking.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Gwydion on 17 April 2023, 10:19:58 PM
I love the 'renaming after a sex mad Welshman' bit.
Did it ever occur to the monoglot thicko who wrote that piece that Brecon is just the anglicised version of Brychan?
It's always been named after the sex mad half Irish immigrant.
Ho hum.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 17 April 2023, 11:18:23 PM
The unspoken assumption is that it's the English army.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Last Hussar on 18 April 2023, 04:38:24 PM
I've never been in the army.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 19 April 2023, 12:53:41 PM
I have and it's very tribal... Incidentally yesterday was St. King Brychan of Brycheiniog's day in the Orthodox Church...
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: flamingpig0 on 19 April 2023, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 18 April 2023, 04:38:24 PMI've never been in the army.

I have been a little bit dubious of it since I discovered it tried to kill my father. I wouldn't mind so much but he was in the RAF at the time.

Badly marked live fire exercise- apparently
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: John Cook on 19 April 2023, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 17 April 2023, 11:18:23 PMThe unspoken assumption is that it's the English army.

To anybody who has been in the British Army it will always be simply 'Brecon'.  Not a place you ever go to willingly, to be frank.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: John Cook on 19 April 2023, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 19 April 2023, 02:59:28 PMI have been a little bit dubious of it since I discovered it tried to kill my father. I wouldn't mind so much but he was in the RAF at the time.

Badly marked live fire exercise- apparently

In the RAF you say.  Almost certainly deliberate.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: pierre the shy on 20 April 2023, 03:47:13 AM
Certainly seems to be on the SAS top 10 places to visit in the UK list  :)

They do their selection courses there don't they?
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: John Cook on 20 April 2023, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 20 April 2023, 03:47:13 AMCertainly seems to be on the SAS top 10 places to visit in the UK list  :)

They do their selection courses there don't they?

Well, yes, but it it is used by the infantry generally.
Title: Re: Brecon Beacons now is not
Post by: flamingpig0 on 20 April 2023, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: John Cook on 19 April 2023, 04:27:05 PMIn the RAF you say.  Almost certainly deliberate.

That was my opinion but I decided not to share it with him