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Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Topic started by: flamingpig0 on 23 February 2023, 03:35:58 PM

Title: Help
Post by: flamingpig0 on 23 February 2023, 03:35:58 PM
Someone please tell me there is a simple WW2 French tank camouflage scheme.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: fsn on 23 February 2023, 03:57:52 PM
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Title: Re: Help
Post by: fsn on 23 February 2023, 04:02:05 PM
Title: Re: Help
Post by: fsn on 23 February 2023, 04:05:37 PM
Sorry. From Steven J Zaloga's "Blitzkrieg"

Char D1: 67e BCC "all over green with no markings". 
https://www.deviantart.com/liquid-nitrogen/art/HISTORICAL-Char-Renault-D1-879725102 (https://www.deviantart.com/liquid-nitrogen/art/HISTORICAL-Char-Renault-D1-879725102)

Char D2: "generally two tone green and ochre outlined in black"
FCM 36: "Intricate horizontal 3 tone pattern"
Char B1: "most elaborately marked tanks of the 1939-40 battle"
Char Legere 35R: "usually camouflaged in a two or three tone scheme"
Char Legere  R30 and R40: "generally remained in monotone green"
Char Legere 35H and 39H: "infantry Hotchiss ... frequently left in monotone dark green" - the cavalry version ... not so plain.
Char 2C: "most overall dark green"
Somua S35: you don't want to know
AMR 33/35: "Three toned pattern"
Other: Panhard a/c, P16 half track, UE - usually montone green

So if you mix Char 2C, D1, Infantry Hotchkiss you can just do a plain green - but I feel that's missing the joys of French armour.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: fsn on 23 February 2023, 04:30:29 PM
H39
https://www.deviantart.com/liquid-nitrogen/art/HISTORICAL-Char-Hotchkiss-H35-879634275
Title: Re: Help
Post by: flamingpig0 on 23 February 2023, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: fsn on 23 February 2023, 04:30:29 PMH39
https://www.deviantart.com/liquid-nitrogen/art/HISTORICAL-Char-Hotchkiss-H35-879634275
Thanks
I think we have a winner
Title: Re: Help
Post by: fred. on 23 February 2023, 06:17:58 PM
As fsn lists there were quite a few plain green schemes. But surely the fun of 1940s French force is all the lovely camo schemes!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 February 2023, 08:15:25 PM
Here is the Flames of War guide, if that helps
https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=110&art_id=2145
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Steve J on 23 February 2023, 08:37:47 PM
The pre-war tanks seemed to have had quite elaborate schemes, that certainly got simpler as the war progressed and thanks were rushed off the production line.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: hammurabi70 on 23 February 2023, 09:40:02 PM
QuoteSorry. From Steven J Zaloga's "Blitzkrieg"

Other: Panhard a/c, P16 half track, UE - usually montone green

So if you mix Char 2C, D1, Infantry Hotchkiss you can just do a plain green - but I feel that's missing the joys of French armour.

So the FT17s would be in this green then?
Title: Re: Help
Post by: flamingpig0 on 23 February 2023, 10:11:36 PM
Quote from: fred. on 23 February 2023, 06:17:58 PMAs fsn lists there were quite a few plain green schemes. But surely the fun of 1940s French force is all the lovely camo schemes!

Not if you have the dexterity of a drunken goat
Title: Re: Help
Post by: fsn on 24 February 2023, 06:17:07 AM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 23 February 2023, 09:40:02 PMSo the FT17s would be in this green then?

No, sorry. "Tended to be two toned in horizontal patterns."