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Title: Bigger Triremes
Post by: fsn on 29 December 2022, 11:09:53 AM
Good morning each.

I am looking for some advice.

Whilst looking through my "get round to it" box, I have found some 1:2400 triremes I got from Tumbling Dice. I know why they never made it to me table - they're too small.

Can anyone recommend something a bit larger?

I have my eye on 1:600 Xyston from Scotia Grendel. https://www.scotiagrendel.com/Xyston/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 December 2022, 11:20:47 AM
1:1200 are quite common
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: fsn on 29 December 2022, 11:38:39 AM
Thanks Speedy. Any recommendations?

Are Navwar still going? Is Rod Langton still going?  Their web presence seems to be stuck in 2009.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 December 2022, 12:25:10 PM
The Langton stuff is avaliable through Tumbling Dice. Far as I known his stuff is still around.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 December 2022, 12:58:06 PM
QuoteThe Langton stuff is available through Tumbling Dice. Far as I known his stuff is still around.

Really? News to me. Must investigate. I'd like some of the Langton Egyptian galleys.

Haven't bought from Rod Langton since June but easy transaction, done by email, and nice stuff. Bigger than the Navwar equivalents though. Got some buildings too. Not bad alongside Brigade stuff.

As far as I know Navwar are still going. Was contemplating a small top-up order of Ancient and Armada period stuff. Thought I'd give him a ring in the New Year. Always good for a chinwag.

Below: 2 Navwar Greek Merchants, Langton Roman Merchant and Grain Ship, Navwar quinquereme and two Roman Merchants, Langton sinking quinquereme. The Grain Ship is about bang on for the 1200 ton "Isis" of the Imperial period. Possibly a little big for Punic Wars but "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence." :)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5440/vg4rwp.jpg)
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: FierceKitty on 29 December 2022, 01:08:51 PM
Tell him I say "hi".
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: OldenBUA on 29 December 2022, 01:29:32 PM
I had some of those Xyston ships, very nice they were to. Never got around to building them and subsequently sold them again, but don't let that hold you back.  :D
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: DHautpol on 29 December 2022, 02:46:07 PM
I remember reading a thread, either on here or TMP, that suggested that Navwar operated on a "in person in store" and "mail order" basis only, no on-line store.

I also seem to remember that they thought that the shop on on Saturdays only.

The website, which doesn't seem to have been updated since before lockdown, is: http://navwar.co.uk/nav/default.asp
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 December 2022, 02:57:57 PM

QuoteI remember reading a thread, either on here or TMP, that suggested that Navwar operated on a "in person in store" and "mail order" basis only, no on-line store.

I also seem to remember that they thought that the shop on on Saturdays only.

The website, which doesn't seem to have been updated since before lockdown, is: http://navwar.co.uk/nav/default.asp

Indeed so. It's a set up that suits the owner but not all potential customers.

He prefers phone or fax.

Nice guy. Nice toys. I have no problem with it.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: John Cook on 29 December 2022, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 December 2022, 12:25:10 PMThe Langton stuff is avaliable through Tumbling Dice. Far as I known his stuff is still around.

Are you sure about that.  Langton Miniatures has its own web site and was last updated in September and is still going strong as far as I can tell. 
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: howayman on 29 December 2022, 06:59:04 PM

I have looked for years for a playable set of rules.
 I must own about five various sets, non of which suit my taste.
Any recommendations, minimal record keeping, no special board markings would be a good start.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 December 2022, 08:54:49 PM
Poseidon's Warriors
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 December 2022, 09:23:11 PM
I use Poseidon's Warriors too. Fast and decisive games.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: paulr on 29 December 2022, 09:50:39 PM
Thanks both, I will have a look at Poseidon's Warriors, I'm in a similar position to Howayman

Ithoriel, if you do give Navwar a call please pass on both my and Pierre the Shy's thanks
I've got about 450 of his ships and Pierre the Shy has quite a few as well ;)
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: pierre the shy on 29 December 2022, 10:52:19 PM
Not exactly sure how many "quite a few" is actually Paul.....but well into 3 figures.

Once I can find a PC fax app that works I have an eventual need for a few more.....reinforcements ;) 

The pharmacy down the road has finally moved into the 21st Century so they no longer use a fax to send prescription information.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: howayman on 30 December 2022, 12:41:17 AM
Thank you all for that information.
I will set about acquiring a set as soon as possible.  :)
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: tony of TTT on 30 December 2022, 03:41:48 PM
At one time Tumbling Dice did a limited part of Rod Langton's stuff at shows and had an arrangement that Langton orders could be collected at shows from Tumbling Dice. I have no idea if that still continues to apply but I'm sure you find it on one/other/both of their websites if it does.

Tony of TTT

Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: toxicpixie on 30 December 2022, 05:35:03 PM
If you don't mind some papercraft Wargames Vault does a variety of nice ones, and you can always resize by printing at different percentages - https://www.wargamevault.com/product/20283/Roman-Seas-The-Roman-Navy-Set

It had been advertising a Greek-Persian era set at me in the week but I can't find it now!
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: fsn on 30 December 2022, 06:44:58 PM
Thank you. I'm afraid my paper craft skills are somewhat deficient.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: toxicpixie on 31 December 2022, 01:32:59 AM
So are mine, it's why I don't have any :D
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: pierre the shy on 04 January 2023, 05:46:52 AM
Just noticed on another forum that the latest Issue of Wargames Illustrated (No 421 Jan 2023) has a suplimentary 32 page set of trireme era rules called Thalassa, so if you are still looking for the right set of rules might be worth getting hold of a copy of WI 421.
Title: Re: Bigger Triremes
Post by: paulr on 04 January 2023, 07:59:18 AM
Thanks Pierre the Shy

I've had a quick look here https://www.wargamesillustrated.net/gaming/thalassa/ (https://www.wargamesillustrated.net/gaming/thalassa/) on the WI website

Having several crew slots on each ship with various options and keeping track of crew loses and partial damage on each ship makes this look like a skirmish game

I'm more interested in large fleet actions