Hi folks
Just a quick one, I'm looking for ideas as to how folks afix the wheels on Pendraken guns. I tried my first 2 today and used superglue, which whilst successful in the end, took me an absolute age, with much glue on my fingers and much frustration 😞 I would be most grateful for any help in this matter, never having worked in this scale before.
Many thanks
Kind regards
Nigel
Baking soda.
Makes super glue set almost instantly.
Use a gel superglue. Being a gel it will stay where you put it.
I use Loctite 60.
Baking soda....who'd have thought it. I'll have to try that. I presume you apply a little to the axle along with a drop of superglue, then hold the wheel against it and bang...it sets rock hard?
I use a few grains of baking soda/ sodium bicarbonate sprinkled into the well in the wheel and a drop of gel superglue on the axle. Push together and the bond almost instant. Used on artillery, chariots, etc. to great effect.
NB the reaction generates heat, sparing amounts reduce the chance of singing your finger tips. Also the vapour given off is not good for you, keep your nose as far from the reaction as you can.
First, do a dry run to make sure the wheels fit on the axles (gently pare /shave down axles if they don't fit until they do).
Second, take a cocktail stick. Squeeze a small blob of superglue on to some disposal surface (e.g., piece of card, etc.). Dip end of cocktail stick into the blob of glue and apply to axle end. Attach wheel and hold in position for a short while, making sure wheels are symmetrical.
Leon posted on a similar thread (ages back).
He recommended using blu-tak and a painting stick to ensure the wheels remain aligned while the glue sets.
The advice above is equally valid.
I just put a small drop in the hub and then insert the axle. Works for both sides and when almost fully set bend the wheels into the proper alignment.
Forget about baking soda. It works but as mentioned elsewhere it generates heat and fumes and is messy. It is also completely unnecessary. Use gel superglue, also suggested above, which is easier to apply than the liquid stuff. Dispense the amount you need onto a plate or tile and apply with a cocktail stick or similar to one of the surfaces. Offer up the two parts and apply an accelerant. You can buy superglue accelerant in aerosol cans and it cures the glue in seconds. Cheaper and just as effective, and not toxic at all, is plain tap water. Dispense it in a puffer bottle as a mist and super glue cures very quickly. Alternatively, put the smallest drop of water on one of the surfaces. You don't need much, it just has to be damp, which is a reason why super glue bonds flesh so quickly.
I do one wheel at a time. But I put the gun onto its side, so it sits on the wheel, whilst the glue dries.
SUPER GLUE ACTIVATOR SPRAY 400ML
Product Safety
Causes skin irritation.
Extremely flammable aerosol.
May cause damage to organs through prolonged or repeated exposure.
Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.
Danger
Causes skin irritation.
Extremely flammable aerosol.
May cause damage to organs through prolonged or repeated exposure.
May cause drowsiness or dizziness.
Pressurised container: May burst if heated.
Suspected of damaging fertility or the unborn child.
Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.
I'll take baking soda over that lot!
Also, spray can around a fiver, 200g of baking soda around £1.60. And, if used solely for accelerating superglue the 200g will probably last longer than I will!
QuoteAlso, spray can around a fiver, 200g of baking soda around £1.60. And, if used solely for accelerating superglue the 200g will probably last longer than I will!
... and you don't actually need either of them.
[Heavens! How did we ever manage to put an Airfix kit together when we were kids ... =) ;D ]
p.s. I also recommend the gel Superglue.
For pieces that are awkward to stick together, I use gel superglue on one half and contact adhesive on the other half - the contact adhesive acts as an accelerant like the above examples but gives just enough time to position stuff.
So Nac451, lots of conflicting advice! :)
Are you:
- any the wiser?
- wishing you'd never asked?
:D :D :D
QuoteLeon posted on a similar thread (ages back).
He recommended using blu-tak and a painting stick to ensure the wheels remain aligned while the glue sets.
The advice above is equally valid.
Now my brain is working properly, I can reveal that the Boffins refer to such a bracer as a "jig".
Quote from: Westmarcher on 18 December 2022, 01:45:39 PM... and you don't actually need either of them.
[Heavens! How did we ever manage to put an Airfix kit together when we were kids ... =) ;D ]
p.s. I also recommend the gel Superglue.
No, you don't need either of them and super glue chemical activators aren't mandatory as far as I know.
All chemicals have hazards associated with them. Looking at safety data sheets for super glue and baking powder you'd be pardoned for thinking you are taking your life in your hands using them.
Tap water is as good a super glue activator as chemical accelerants or baking powder. It is non-toxic, cheaper than any other alternative and always available at the turn of a tap.
As far as assembling Airfix kits, polystyrene glue was what I used as I remember. Don't even think of looking at the safety data sheet for that though. You'll wonder how you managed to survive as the fumes are toxic and inflamable, and potentially carcinogenic.
Quote from: John Cook on 19 December 2022, 02:10:47 AMTap water is as good a super glue activator as chemical accelerants or baking powder. It is non-toxic, cheaper than any other alternative and always available at the turn of a tap.
Dihydromonoxide! That stuff is lethal!
Have you seen its data sheet?
https://improbable.com/2010/03/24/dhmo-material-safety-data-sheet/?amp=1
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.!
Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 19 December 2022, 10:31:19 AMDihydromonoxide! That stuff is lethal!
Have you seen its data sheet?
And it comprises 60% of every person on the planet. We're doomed.
I think the young lady at 0:59 onwards in this video may have cracked the adhesive issue ..... or is it an engineering solution? :o :-\
Although I admire your research methods, I think that's extreme muscle control.
QuoteAlthough I admire your research methods, I think that's extreme muscle control.
Having helped a young lady into something that looked very similar, in my youth, I'd say it is flexible and clamps itself in place. Needs to be properly sized if you don't want it to either cut you in half or drop off as you walk.
QuoteAlthough I admire your research methods ....
Thank you.
I've compiled a research paper entitled, "How the Hell Does it Stay On?" and will be happy to share my findings with you, if you wish.
[Spoiler: Alas, I'm inclined to agree with Mike (Ithoriel) insofar that it is most probably an engineering solution and not an adhesive one. :-B ]
I just use glue, never had a problem. One wheel at a time.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 December 2022, 05:50:54 PMHaving helped a young lady into something that looked very similar, in my youth, I'd say it is flexible and clamps itself in place. Needs to be properly sized if you don't want it to either cut you in half or drop off as you walk.
"Into" ????
Quote"Into" ????
That was also explored in my paper ...
p.s. @Mollinary: we don't care any longer .... mind you, Nac451 might. ;)
In my limited (i.e. one time) experience you pull the front (red heart with white fur trim) and the back (bright pink "arse-antlers") apart and hold them low enough for the occupant to step astride, you then raise the item to a point where the occupant can take control and settle the thing into a comfortable position - or possibly "the least uncomfortable" position.
Bizarrely, I'd been taken on as a "minder" by a girl from the year above me in school who'd moved on from the groves of academe to a career as an exotic dancer in the local pubs and clubs. Her usual guy was down with some bug or other so she needed someone for a week to cover his absence. I was six foot, regularly did fencing, a bit of kendo, hill walking and swimming (changed days!!) so was fit and had combat skills of sufficient lethality that if laying odds on me versus a wet paper bag the smart money would be on the bag. Did that for a week then spent the next six working in the local public library service. It's been an odd life sometimes.
Damn libraries are sexy!