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Title: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Raider4 on 01 December 2022, 09:01:36 PM
If only there was a word that describes the joy you feel at other's misfortune . . .
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: jimduncanuk on 01 December 2022, 09:04:30 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 01 December 2022, 09:01:36 PMIf only there was a word that describes the joy you feel at other's misfortune . . .

D**n, I wanted them to win the final on penalties.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: flamingpig0 on 01 December 2022, 09:09:26 PM
I have never understood the attraction of football
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Elliesdad on 01 December 2022, 09:52:10 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 01 December 2022, 09:01:36 PMIf only there was a word that describes the joy you feel at other's misfortune . . .

SCH...urely there is...  Epicaricacy (apparently).
No, I'd never heard of it either 😉

Cheers,

Geoff
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 December 2022, 01:05:23 AM
There's a German word I'm sure you know....
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 02 December 2022, 08:21:16 AM
So England might get somewhere.....and Wales are gone as well  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: John Cook on 02 December 2022, 09:36:23 AM
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 01 December 2022, 09:09:26 PMI have never understood the attraction of football

Neither have I.  I have managed to avoid looking at any WC ganes, even by accident  :)
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Orcs on 02 December 2022, 10:45:12 AM
Only played Rugby at school. Never found football that interesting. Lost what little appeal it had when players started to have no geographical connection with the club they played for.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: flamingpig0 on 02 December 2022, 10:50:34 AM
QuoteSCH...urely there is...  Epicaricacy (apparently).
No, I'd never heard of it either 😉

Cheers,

Geoff

made me think of
https://youtu.be/HoiKoIZ7wwo (https://youtu.be/HoiKoIZ7wwo)
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Kiwidave on 02 December 2022, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: John Cook on 02 December 2022, 09:36:23 AMNeither have I.  I have managed to avoid looking at any WC ganes, even by accident  :)

Good for you - you must be so proud.

What I don't understand is why people who don't like a particular sport (or any sport) feel the need to tell everybody this in a thread about said sport. Why would we care that you don't like football? Would you like a badge, or a gold star or pat on the back for looking down your nose as those folk who do like said sport?
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 December 2022, 11:31:43 AM
I'll take a badge please! :)
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 December 2022, 12:36:19 PM
We don't look down on football fans. We respect them and hope they may be made well.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Elliesdad on 02 December 2022, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 02 December 2022, 10:50:34 AMmade me think of
https://youtu.be/HoiKoIZ7wwo (https://youtu.be/HoiKoIZ7wwo)
I must admit I did rather enjoy Call My Bluff (on one particular show I even knew 3 of the words - I recall one of them was Yeni-ceri or Janissary. Sadly, I never managed it again).
The concept of the show was great, the presenters were intelligent yet humorous and even the them tune brings back memories.
Cheers,
Geoff
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 02 December 2022, 12:51:21 PM
QuoteWe don't look down on football fans. We respect them and hope they may be made well.

After all it's not their fault being of low intelligence
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: flamingpig0 on 02 December 2022, 02:10:46 PM
QuoteAfter all it's not their fault being of low intelligence

That reminds me:

https://www.openculture.com/2014/11/albert-camus-soccer-goalie.html (https://www.openculture.com/2014/11/albert-camus-soccer-goalie.html)

Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Big Insect on 02 December 2022, 02:14:29 PM
I suspect some of you might remember the world cup petrol tokens (medals) that were about when I was a kid, that you collected (from your parents who were buying the petrol) and put into a collection board.

I think those old tokens would make wonderful medals for those of us (like myself) who have no interest in the game of football or the World Cup (although I will probably find that they are now collectors items worth 'fousands).

However, I don't decry football fans their pleasure in the game, I just wish that the media didn't stuff it down all of our throats, as if we are all equally interested/infatuated etc.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: flamingpig0 on 02 December 2022, 02:15:15 PM
Some societies take football failure very seriously

https://www.newsweek.com/north-korean-soccer-team-punished-world-cup-failure-74239 (https://www.newsweek.com/north-korean-soccer-team-punished-world-cup-failure-74239)
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: John Cook on 02 December 2022, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: Kiwidave on 02 December 2022, 10:59:26 AMGood for you - you must be so proud.

What I don't understand is why people who don't like a particular sport (or any sport) feel the need to tell everybody this in a thread about said sport. Why would we care that you don't like football? Would you like a badge, or a gold star or pat on the back for looking down your nose as those folk who do like said sport?

I am.  Yes please, where do I get this badge. I am always happy to pass a comment  on a particular, even any, sport.  I didn't intend to look down my nose at anybody, until I saw the Cheltenham Town FC badge ;D     
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: John Cook on 02 December 2022, 02:54:52 PM
The thing that turns me off football is the behaviour of so many players, in particular the lack of respect and aggressive behaviour towards match officials.   
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Gwydion on 02 December 2022, 03:35:31 PM
Beware being rude about Cheltenham Town.
They have the distinction of having been managed by a serving Intelligence Officer from GCHQ in the 1990s and he remains a Director (of Cheltenham Town, not GCHQ). :-X
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Raider4 on 02 December 2022, 08:03:40 PM

QuoteThe thing that turns me off football is the behaviour of so many players, in particular the lack of respect and aggressive behaviour towards match officials.   
You'd have loved the women's rugby match the BBC screened on the Red Button at the weekend.


The quality was . . . not great to be honest, but at the first penalty conceded by Bristol, one of the props gave some chat back to the referee - as she sees the top men's internationals do every week - who promptly marched Bristol back 10 metres.

Then she walked away shaking her head sarcastically, so the ref marched them back another 10 metres.

Rugby being reffed as I remember it from schooldays - loved it!
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Matt J on 02 December 2022, 08:31:19 PM
Currently in Marrakech, it was insane here yesterday  :D  :D

There are parts of the world where football can have an amazing positive effect.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: John Cook on 03 December 2022, 02:39:44 AM
Quote from: Raider4 on 02 December 2022, 08:03:40 PMYou'd have loved the women's rugby match.......

I've watched quite a bit and the skills are often every bit as good as men's rugby and why shouldn't they be?  Rhetorical question.

The only player allowed to talk to a referee is the team captain.  They ought to import some of Rugby Union's discipline into Football but the will to reform the game doesn't seem to be there.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: flamingpig0 on 03 December 2022, 10:19:56 AM
Quote from: Big Insect on 02 December 2022, 02:14:29 PMHowever, I don't decry football fans their pleasure in the game, I just wish that the media didn't stuff it down all of our throats, as if we are all equally interested/infatuated etc.


We are freaks for not being interested

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-england-v-sweden-martin-keown-reading-books-get-a-life-bbc-a8436441.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-england-v-sweden-martin-keown-reading-books-get-a-life-bbc-a8436441.html)
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Leon on 03 December 2022, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: John Cook on 03 December 2022, 02:39:44 AMThey ought to import some of Rugby Union's discipline into Football but the will to reform the game doesn't seem to be there.

Definitely but as you say, they don't seem to want to.  The harassing of the refs could be fixed in a matter of weeks if they just started dishing out red cards to anyone being abusive.  Same for diving too, send it to VAR, if they've dived then they're off.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Steve J on 03 December 2022, 12:44:20 PM
I remember some collectable coins (Green Shield stamps or petrol coupons?) from the early 1970's for the English First Division as it was then, if my memory serves me correctly.

As for the refs in football, I remember Nigel Owens (Welsh rugby ref) being asked how he would ref a football game. I believe he answered along the lines that there would be no players left after 10 minutes or so!

Rugby: A game for thugs played by gentlemen.
Fottball: A game for gentlemen played by thugs.
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: fsn on 05 December 2022, 07:25:38 PM
Don't do kickie-ball, but I do like an informative map.

(https://travelerdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/15-World-Cup-Winners-Reddit-by-Hamza2579_img_62c579ed48dc4.jpg)
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 December 2022, 08:58:14 PM
Quite a map
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: fred. on 06 December 2022, 07:53:52 AM
It is quite instructive! Though I would have liked the colours to have a bit more of an obvious progression to them. 

I saw a headline the other day around how there are so many good African players, but so few good African national teams. This map rather reinforces the later point. 

It feels unlikely this World Cup will change the map much. As whilst the group stages through up a number of surprises. The first knock-out stage has gone very much to historic expectations. 
Title: Re: Germany out of the World Cup
Post by: Raider4 on 14 December 2022, 09:49:51 PM

QuoteDon't do kickie-ball, but I do like an informative map.

(https://travelerdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/15-World-Cup-Winners-Reddit-by-Hamza2579_img_62c579ed48dc4.jpg)
And they're going to need a new colour for winning three, as both of the finalists are, yet again, previous winners  :(.