https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/03/a-joke-that-went-out-of-control-crowdfunding-weapons-for-ukraines-war (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/03/a-joke-that-went-out-of-control-crowdfunding-weapons-for-ukraines-war)
I wonder what the legal position on export licences and end user certificates is?
I presume as it's Ukraine they'll all be waved through.
I don't think I fancy giving money to assassinate people though:
QuoteLast month, hundreds of thousands of dollars was raised by a volunteer organisation headed by young activist Serhiy Sternenko for a bounty to be placed on the head of Igor Girkin, a notorious Russian nationalist who led the Kremlin-backed separatists during Vladimir Putin's first invasion of Ukraine in 2014.
Not sure outsourcing war is a good idea.
Quote from: Gwydion on 03 November 2022, 08:48:17 PMI wonder what the legal position on export licences and end user certificates is?
I presume as it's Ukraine they'll all be waved through.
I don't think I fancy giving money to assassinate people though:Not sure outsourcing war is a good idea.
It worked really well for the Roman Republic ;)
Quote from: Gwydion on 03 November 2022, 08:48:17 PMI wonder what the legal position on export licences and end user certificates is?
I presume as it's Ukraine they'll all be waved through.
I don't think I fancy giving money to assassinate people though:Not sure outsourcing war is a good idea.
They are not armed and the armour is conventional. Also no specialist technology so I doubt they need end user certificates or any more complex export license than a normal vehicle.
We have sent far more aggressive weaponry to Ukraine so why make this difficult.
They are not giving money to assassinate anyone. It is just an apc. Anyway what's the difference between this and the sale of "War Bonds" in ww2
I have always hoped... but with doubt... that there would be UK stores of out of service kit. We tend to sell off or scrap stuff that could, very well be needed in a hurry.The 'Green Goddesses' fire engines appeared when needed... so did the old Humber 'Pigs'.
These Spartans seem to have been in 'private' ownership... and if needed by Ukraine, fair enough.
USA and Russia have enormous stockpiles of armour, etc. that could be refurbed. Think Germany brought some Leo's out from storage recently.
There are some arms collectors... mainly around Baltic... with LOADS of WW2 stuff... 75mm ATGs. Bit of derusting and grease... ammo would be another matter!
QuoteThey are not giving money to assassinate anyone. It is just an apc. Anyway what's the difference between this and the sale of "War Bonds" in ww2
Try reading the quote I took from the original Guardian article - someone is crowdfunding for an assassination.
Quote from: Gwydion on 03 November 2022, 08:48:17 PMI don't think I fancy giving money to assassinate people though.
Oh I don't know. It depends very much on who the target is.
QuoteTry reading the quote I took from the original Guardian article - someone is crowdfunding for an assassination.
a bounty to be placed on the head of Igor GirkinHours later, Ukraine's defence intelligence office, GUR, tweeted a wanted poster featuring Girkin and his trademark pencil moustache. "GUR guarantees $100,000 for the captured Girkin," it saidhttps://www.ft.com/content/7c425499-3673-4a22-84ee-f02e4bc62a23
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QuoteI don't think I fancy giving money to assassinate people though:
When I was serving in Northern Ireland (I think it was summer 1975) my dad was in a pub in Hammersmith when a tin went around with '5p to buy a bullet to kill a squadie' on it, he left pretty quickly but never said how many people were actually putting money in.
Cheers Paul
Psychopaths have moved on a bit from the tin rattling on a Friday night in Kilburn, Hammersmith and Boston 'for the cause'.
The assassination Market (https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/18/meet-the-assassination-market-creator-whos-crowdfunding-murder-with-bitcoins/)
Good idea to turn a late night game of 'Who would you shoot first?' into action?
That was on the 'Dark Web'
Girkin's demise seems to be plotted, with apparent approval, quite openly. Call me old fashioned but I quite like that boring old rule of law thing we used to have.
Quote from: Gwydion on 04 November 2022, 10:30:45 AMPsychopaths have moved on a bit from the tin rattling on a Friday night in Kilburn, Hammersmith and Boston 'for the cause'.
The assassination Market (https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/18/meet-the-assassination-market-creator-whos-crowdfunding-murder-with-bitcoins/)
Good idea to turn a late night game of 'Who would you shoot first?' into action?
That was on the 'Dark Web'
Girkin's demise seems to be plotted, with apparent approval, quite openly. Call me old fashioned but I quite like that boring old rule of law thing we used to have.
Indeed, the rot set in when The US officially reintroduced torture during the Iraq/Afghan fiasco