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Title: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Leon on 21 October 2022, 10:00:12 PM
With our new designer churning out the new models at quite a rate, it's time for another batch of new vehicles in the form of a revamp and extension of our M3/M5 half-tracks!

This batch includes replacement models for our existing British M5 half-tracks as well as the two American gun motor carriages (M15 and M16).  Then we've added some new variants to the US range with the regular half-track plus the 75mm GMC and 81mm mortar (M21) versions now available.

We then jump over to our new Arab-Israeli ranges with a handful of M3 variants for the IDF.  Israel converted a huge number of the M3s but we've chosen the 5 most popular versions to add to our range: APC, recce, AA, 81mm mortar and 120mm mortar.


WWII American - https://www.pendraken.co.uk/vehicles-716-c.asp
AMV23    M15 CGMC        £2.95
AMV24    M16 MGMC        £2.95
...
AMV34    M3A1 half-track, with .50cal        £2.95
AMV35    M3A1 half-track, covered        £2.95
AMV36    M3 GMC, 75mm        £2.95
AMV37    M21 MMC, 81mm mortar        £2.95

WWII British - https://www.pendraken.co.uk/vehicles-724-c.asp
BRV68    M5 half-track, with .50cal        £2.95
BRV69    M5 half-track, covered        £2.95


Arab-Israeli: Israeli - https://www.pendraken.co.uk/israeli-1084-c.asp
IDF24    M3 Degem Alef, APC        £2.95
IDF25    M3 Recce, 20mm cannon        £2.95
IDF26    M3 TCM-20, 20mm AA        £2.95
IDF27    M3 Degem Gimel, 81mm mortar        £2.95
IDF28    M3 Degem Dalet, 120mm mortar    £2.95


And some pics:

AMV24 - M16 MGMC
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-amv24-n-m16-half-track-quad-.50-cal-hmg-3423-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=984E9A93-C23B-4644-BA97-8215CA1DE7AC)

AMV34 - M3A1 half-track, with .50cal
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-amv34-n-m3a1-half-track-with-.50cal-7366-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=DB44607B-CDFC-42EF-8DDC-CF3F9E768A03)

AMV37 - M21 MMC, 81mm mortar
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-amv37-n-m21-mmc-81mm-mortar-7369-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=31C3A3B2-4679-4D51-9D02-A63D291A6682)

BRV69 - M5 half-track, covered
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-brv69-n-m5-half-track-covered-3602-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=0EE3822D-3DCD-4A85-8FCB-06368620E0B6)

IDF24 - M3 Degem Alef, APC
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-idf24-n-m3-apc-7370-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=7403CE99-14C7-45E5-B8C6-07218AB8F890)

IDF25 - M3 with 20mm cannon
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-idf25-n-m3-recce-20mm-cannon-7371-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=836314F5-F791-4A5E-B24E-323CFA3B018C)

IDF26 - M3 TCM-20, 20mm AA
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-idf26-n-m3-tcm-20-20mm-aa-7372-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=65FA0D8B-292E-43B7-A6EF-184D6DF012C3)

IDF27 - M3 Degem Gimel, 81mm mortar
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-idf27-n-m3-degem-gimel-81mm-mortar-7373-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=203CCC89-0695-4207-B3DE-6CC0A94A3122)

IDF28 - M3 Degem Dalet, 120mm mortar
(https://39.cdn.ekm.net/ekmps/shops/89204c/images/-n-idf28-n-m3-degem-dalet-120mm-mortar-7374-1-p.jpg?w=360&h=210&v=E15915A9-0ACB-4E6B-8720-2804AB25CE73)


We've already got the next batch lined up and ready to go into a master mould, which will include the BMP-2 and BRDM-2.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: paulr on 22 October 2022, 01:14:45 AM
Interesting to see the IDF24 M3 Degem Alef, APC coming with a variety of optional weapons :-\
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: pierre the shy on 22 October 2022, 02:19:31 AM
The Israelis got a very nasty shock from the Egyptians and Syrians deploying "suitcase Sagger" ATGM's for the first time in large numbers at the beginning of the Yom Kippur war in 1973, and took reasonably high tank losses from them accordingly.

They very quickly learnt that if you could surpress or distract the ATGM missile operator the hit chance was greatly reduced. Hence they mounted multiple MG's and even 2"/52mm mortars on their tanks, APC's etc to help provide surpressive fire.

M3 halftracks were still in widespread use as APC's etc in the Israeli army in the early 1970's, though IIRC they started to receive significant numbers of M113's as the war progressed.

These are really nice looking models  :-bd
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 October 2022, 07:28:36 AM
Look good. Couple of coments - Most Israli M3's are actually M5's from our stocks. The 50 cal was rare on British vehicles although the pulpit seems to have been more comon than previously thought. The first British 1/2 tracks were converted from M14 AA vehicles.

finally - Where are the Cheiftain and FV432 ????? (Dint think you'd get away with it did you !)
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: fsn on 22 October 2022, 08:05:50 AM
Huzzah! Nice looking models.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Steve J on 22 October 2022, 08:19:20 AM
Really, really nice!
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 October 2022, 08:58:45 AM
Wow, what a set of releases. Nice all.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 22 October 2022, 10:36:53 AM
They do look nice. As do a lot of the revamped vehicles.
Sad to say, but I already have FAR more stuff than I will ever need! lol.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 October 2022, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 22 October 2022, 10:36:53 AMThey do look nice. As do a lot of the revamped vehicles.
Sad to say, but I already have FAR more stuff than I will ever need! lol.

Me too. Sadly that doesn't stop me! Doh!
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Raider4 on 22 October 2022, 03:27:27 PM
They look great!

Must admit, whenever I see M3 halftracks, I always feel the urge to buy a couple, plus Jeeps and a 105mm howitzer so that I can recreate the Big Joe's platoon.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: fsn on 22 October 2022, 03:41:34 PM
QuoteMust admit, whenever I see M3 halftracks, I always feel the urge to buy a couple, plus Jeeps and a 105mm howitzer so that I can recreate the Big Joe's platoon.
I know what you mean. M3/M5s and Jeeps are like catnip.

And Centurions.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 October 2022, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 22 October 2022, 03:27:27 PMThey look great!

Must admit, whenever I see M3 halftracks, I always feel the urge to buy a couple, plus Jeeps and a 105mm howitzer so that I can recreate the Big Joe's platoon.
Those were T20s...
Woofwoof
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: fred. on 22 October 2022, 05:54:33 PM
These look good - can I check what size these are compared to the older ones (which seemed quite small)?


QuoteI know what you mean. M3/M5s and Jeeps are like catnip.

And Centurions.
I think you meant, Pendraken models are like catnip
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: fsn on 23 October 2022, 07:56:05 AM
Oh yeah.

That's right. I do seem to have this odd habit of buying new releases on day 1.  :-[
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: kustenjaeger on 23 October 2022, 12:49:19 PM
Definitely planning on buying some of these for my nascent IDF force, starting with APCs and moving to M3D mortar carriers and TCM20.

Edward
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Leon on 23 October 2022, 11:16:59 PM
Thanks for the comments, glad you like them!

Quote from: paulr on 22 October 2022, 01:14:45 AMInteresting to see the IDF24 M3 Degem Alef, APC coming with a variety of optional weapons :-\

Hopefully they come in useful for customising!  Some of the others come with a little sprue but it's usually only the main weapon (.50cal, mortar) etc.  We might have a look at releasing some of them as weapon options somewhere too.

Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 October 2022, 07:28:36 AMCouple of coments - Most Israli M3's are actually M5's from our stocks.

True, but I thought the IDF designated them all as M3's regardless?
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 October 2022, 07:09:39 AM
You are probably right on that, they did tend to be arbitary on vehicle designation, afterall they did call all of their cents Mk5. Where are the Cheiftain and FV432 ?
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Leon on 24 October 2022, 03:00:51 PM
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 October 2022, 07:09:39 AMWhere are the Cheiftain and FV432 ?

Somewhere... the more you ask the further away they get...!
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 October 2022, 03:10:05 PM
Copying tactics used for Centurions and Aztecs, seemed to work there.......
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Big Insect on 24 October 2022, 03:23:40 PM
What about adding an M2A1 Half Track to the range?

Would there be any value?

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Leon on 24 October 2022, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: fred. on 22 October 2022, 05:54:33 PMThese look good - can I check what size these are compared to the older ones (which seemed quite small)?

Sorry fred, just noticed this query.  The new models come out at 41mm length and I've got the old ones marked down as 35mm on my spreadsheet, so these are close to 20% longer.  The width of the old ones was actually about right though, at 15mm-ish.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: fred. on 24 October 2022, 06:59:31 PM
QuoteSorry fred, just noticed this query.  The new models come out at 41mm length and I've got the old ones marked down as 35mm on my spreadsheet, so these are close to 20% longer.  The width of the old ones was actually about right though, at 15mm-ish.
Thanks Leon - had to go and check those numbers - but they look good compared to what's in Chamberlin and Ellis
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Leon on 24 October 2022, 10:15:37 PM
QuoteThanks Leon - had to go and check those numbers - but they look good compared to what's in Chamberlin and Ellis

One of the benefits of these digital designs is that we can print them at exactly the right size for 1:150th scale.  There's still a little variance in the end product due to the moulding process but it should only be a mm or less.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: kustenjaeger on 18 November 2022, 09:57:53 AM
Quick question.

Having now got some of the halftracks (picked up at Warfare) which are great - what are people doing for drivers for IDF vehicles?

Edward
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Leon on 21 November 2022, 03:59:25 PM
Good question...!  The best option currently would be the WWII US drivers, or we could supply some of the 1908's US MUTT jeep drivers instead.
Title: Re: M3/M5 Half-tracks released!
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 November 2022, 08:17:54 AM
For 67 reserve formations you could use British drivers, the Brodie helmet was still used by reserve units.