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Title: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: nikharwood on 20 March 2010, 10:21:53 PM
...well? What is it? Faces? Tanks? Bedrolls? Eyes?  :o Bases? etc...

What, when presented with your nice new toys, do you most dread hitting with the brush..?
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Fenton on 20 March 2010, 10:24:43 PM
Actually for me its rifles...I can never seem to get the right colour brown for them...after that its the fingers that wrap round the barrel of the gun...hate that bit!
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: clibinarium on 20 March 2010, 10:42:34 PM
Hat tape on tricornes, straps on satchels and blanket rolls, horse furniture and reins, the shirt between cuffs and hand. Also particularily despised painting rolled up camo fabric, camo itself isn't too bad.

I should be honest though and say I hate painting in general.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Luddite on 20 March 2010, 11:01:31 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 20 March 2010, 10:42:34 PM
<snip> horse furniture and reins, <snip>

Yep, this gets my vote.  Absolutely hate painting these as i can never get them to look anything but 'patchy'.  Nightmare... >:(
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: lentulus on 20 March 2010, 11:44:47 PM
There is a point after about the third color when the figure looks like irretrievable rubbish - whatever I am going to do next is the hardest part.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Jase on 21 March 2010, 07:56:06 AM
I have no nightmares about painting, prepping the miniatures though is quite another story; removing mouldlines, pre-undercoat basing etc. Absolutely hate it!
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Luddite on 21 March 2010, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: Jase on 21 March 2010, 07:56:06 AM
I have no nightmares about painting, prepping the miniatures though is quite another story; removing mouldlines, pre-undercoat basing etc. Absolutely hate it!

Ooohh...good one too.

Aye, i hate this.  Something Pendraken figs are mercifully light on i find.  There's occasional flash, but its usually on the base and easily snipped of.

Another thing i hate is having to glue figs together.  1-piece casting for me all the way.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Timbo1974 on 21 March 2010, 10:56:35 AM
Eyes, hate them.  They make or break a mini.  Hands down the easiest thing to paint but the hardest to get right.

Although I'm thinking that at 10mm this won't be so much of a problem.  :D
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Nosher on 21 March 2010, 12:51:48 PM
Horse's. Full stop!
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Captain Verbeek on 21 March 2010, 04:41:34 PM
RED, plain and simple the color red is my Kryptonite, I just can't seem to get a decent effect with red.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Last Hussar on 21 March 2010, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 20 March 2010, 10:42:34 PM
I should be honest though and say I hate painting in general.

Me too.  However having seen your painting I may never paint again, because if you hate it as much as I do, how come you can paint that well, and I am so pants.  Not that I have a choice if I want stuff done.

Red is always difficult to get over the black undercoat- I have found the GW Foundation paints very good, 1 coat.
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Post by: clibinarium on 21 March 2010, 07:20:26 PM
Don't loose faith in your own painting; I hate painting because I spent two years as a professional painter and doing it all day every day took its toll on my brain, towards the end it was completely soul destroying. This feeling has lessened with time, but I still find it difficult.
Recently I painted two mounted 15mm figures for a sculpting client just to help them out and it took me a day and a half, so I am not over it yet. Its too similar to sculpting to be a relaxing hobby now. While I still dislike painting, its saving grace is reaching the end result, which is always rewarding.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Leon on 21 March 2010, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: Captain Verbeek on 21 March 2010, 04:41:34 PM
RED, plain and simple the color red is my Kryptonite, I just can't seem to get a decent effect with red.

:D
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: goat major on 22 March 2010, 08:55:06 AM
i also hate horse furniture. Thats why i'm doing AWI - minimal horses :)

Also on my hate list is eyes. My hand is way too shaky. There's a reason i do 10mm - no feeling of guilt about not doing eyeballs :)
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: nikharwood on 22 March 2010, 08:44:14 PM
Something that can help with a decent red - especially if you're undercoating in black - is to paint whatever-it-is white first: this will give you a true-tone to start from...this'll also help you with oranges / yellows...
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: 17-21l on 25 March 2010, 12:32:06 PM
 :( anythng Yellow - I mean how the hell do you shade YELLOW!!!! - stick to 10mm ACW - thats the option.  Agree with red - its the pits. I have painted  for 24 years - most evenings if the Mrs will let me - and I still find horses and horse furniture boring to death - stick with it guys we are the blood line of our hobby ( and mostly classed as wierdo's by the unclean non wargamer disbelievers!!)  :-[
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Steve J on 25 March 2010, 01:43:17 PM
Just getting started is my biggest problem. I love the prep and basing part of getting my force together, but from then on, it is often in fis and starts. Once I get going it is ok.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Fenton on 25 March 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: 17-21l on 25 March 2010, 12:32:06 PM
:( anythng Yellow - I mean how the hell do you shade YELLOW!!!! -

Use the yellow you want and mix it with a bit of brown for the basecoat then highlight in the original yellow colour again...works well for cuffs especially
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: snafu on 30 March 2010, 03:44:44 PM
Painting US airborne, just couldnt do the beaks on the eagles in the badge ....  lol

thats for u MR harwood....  :P :P ;D
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: nikharwood on 30 March 2010, 04:50:16 PM
 ;D Nice, mate, nice - I bet you could though... ;) 8)
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 31 March 2010, 10:21:47 AM
Yellow

Being a shader rather than a 3-colour man; I wash yellow with thin brown ink; does it for me.

(and, heesy of heresy, I undercoat in white!)
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Minenfeld on 04 April 2010, 06:23:55 PM
Our Landing and stairs, a right pain in the bum ;). Thanks for the tip Nik about painting an area white, to keep the true colour. I always undercoat in black, and my figures are on the dark side.  Hopefully that will lighten things up a bit.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: vtsaogames on 10 April 2010, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 22 March 2010, 08:44:14 PM
Something that can help with a decent red - especially if you're undercoating in black - is to paint whatever-it-is white first: this will give you a true-tone to start from...this'll also help you with oranges / yellows...

My technique is to prime black and then dry brush white. That gives a good base for red. I do it for all colors but a slightly heavier dry brush (or not so dry brush) when the final color is going to be red. Then the red comes off looking shaded already, since the red over black is not as intense as the red over white.

I hope that made sense.
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Minenfeld on 11 April 2010, 07:01:23 PM
Thanks for that tip vtsaogames, I'll give that a try too !
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: sixsideddice on 08 May 2010, 12:52:50 PM
..... painting 10mm figures, full stop!  :'(

It`s a nightmare in itself stopping my painting hand from shaking like a bad case of DT`s when you`re as old as I feel.

*Sighhhhhs* but I endeavour  :-X


Steve
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Pawel Chrzanowski on 21 May 2010, 08:00:54 AM
horses, drums and royal livery on coats :(
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: goat major on 21 May 2010, 08:10:15 AM
AWI Mounted Commanders. No matter how many times i sit down to paint them i can never seem to find them

;)
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Leon on 21 May 2010, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: goat major on 21 May 2010, 08:10:15 AM
AWI Mounted Commanders. No matter how many times i sit down to paint them i can never seem to find them

;)

:P
Title: Re: My absolute-fecking-nightmare to paint is...
Post by: Last Hussar on 25 May 2010, 10:47:00 PM
Really - the Foundation paints from GW go over black really well. The Mechrite Red is a little dark - pre modern dyes weather towards orange/terracotta- but spot on for coverage.

I went into the Milton Keynes branch and explained I needed a green for Russians (when we planned on SYW not WSS) and the guy was really helpful- even testing it for me on a Marine's black undercoated shoulder pad. It is the perfect Imperial Russian green - and good for the bases to!

A mixture of my lack of painting skills, plus the fact I feel 10mm suits fewer strong colours, rather than "every ruddy thread" of 25mm means painting my latest units (WSS as seen elsewhere) has been so much easier. I nearly enjoyed it!