Not quite Thursday, but here you go! Lots of options for these, whether as VCBW types, partizans, etc.
From left to right:
Shotgun + cap / Lewis gun, helmet, light webbing / 2 x Rifle, helmet, light webbing
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5018/5440217440_889ca0760f.jpg)
Nice 8)
I might even change my opinion on AVBCW at this rate - not on the sourcebooks though which, IMNSHO, are ridiculously badly written, stupidly badly proof-read, with the production values of a really bad Parish newsheet. Shocking, quite frankly.
The concept is coolio though 8)
Like them, especially the guy with the shotgun
Very nice, good one snafu 8)
Do like the shotgun chap too.
I don't mind the source books. Parish mag, well fits in with the theme ;D
Very nice and very, very tempting.
great figures, when do you start casting ;)
My only gripe on the source books is that the knowledge of the politics of the time is quite poor, especially regarding the strength of the left and trade union movement, which is what had stopped the fascists historically.
Apart from that it is a fun fantasy game using late'30's kit, it also gets you reading local history. I found out yesterday that there was an airfield in the 30's less than a mile from me on the other side of the A3 near where Kingston RFU play.
Ooh with an airfield I always find a 144th junkers is a must, just nice to land those fascists for a local scramble... :ar!
The figs are quite tempting. 8) I hadn't seriously considered the genre before but now definitely have. The inter war period is already a favorite and It can't hurt to toss in a little fiction.
Nik, I haven't seen any of the sourcebooks and am now not interested in doing so with such low marks given. Thanks for the warning. ;)
The genre seems to be gamed at skirmish or fire team level. What rules are people using out there?
Dave
Quote from: CorvetteK225 on 13 February 2011, 12:41:58 PM
Nik, I haven't seen any of the sourcebooks and am now not interested in doing so with such low marks given. Thanks for the warning. ;)
The genre seems to be gamed at skirmish or fire team level. What rules are people using out there?
Having a nose about here: http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?showforum=4 will give you more than enough info & pointers...for rules there are plenty of options, my favourite would be BKC but we played using Contemptible Little Armies at Nikfest [which I used to use for WW1] which worked really well too.
Nik
would def be interested in looking at BKC for the rules. shouldnt be hard to adapt. we play a lot in 28mm and use a variation of a few sets with house ammendments. When i designed these I was thinking of some good large battles which you dont tend to do in 28mm games.
There are lots of other pend figures that can give you a good start. the british late WWII are a good source, will cover British army and territorials and of course the scots. this will be my next army pack :)
I have some further plans for this range inc ...
BUF
plenty of civilians, also able to use as partizans.
police
naval shore forces
characters !!!
The clergy..
:D
Quote from: CorvetteK225 on 13 February 2011, 12:41:58 PM
I haven't seen any of the sourcebooks and am now not interested in doing so with such low marks given. Thanks for the warning. ;)
Dave
Despite my gripe with some of the politics, the sourcebooks are still worth a look, I think Nik is being a little harsh. They are usually about at most shows, have a browse and make your mind up there.
Ian
Sadly, the shows and stores are a bit of distance. :( I do have Gen Con nearby, but it is mostly fantasy/RPG centered (not my personal gaming genres). Like many gamers, I must to rely on others' reviews and then shop wisely (If there is such a thing!). ;D
Dave
Quote from: Sandinista on 13 February 2011, 03:03:14 PM
the sourcebooks are still worth a look, I think Nik is being a little harsh.
Ian
Dunno - for £12 I expect something to be free from spelling mistakes & to have [at least] a basic grasp of grammar as well as pics that are shot in high resolution...it may be that everything's been sorted [I think they're onto 2nd edition?] but I unloaded my copies after first reading. Some of their 'local' info is off too - can't remember the exact example but some of their Somerset stuff was wrong...
I think that once you've got to grips with the base concept, it's easy enough [& more satisfying] to do your own local research & come up with plausible units, scenarios etc. And you can spend the cash you've saved on more Pendraken figs ;)
Quote from: nikharwood on 13 February 2011, 04:19:34 PM
Dunno - for £12 I expect something to be free from spelling mistakes & to have [at least] a basic grasp of grammar as well as pics that are shot in high resolution...it may be that everything's been sorted [I think they're onto 2nd edition?] but I unloaded my copies after first reading. Some of their 'local' info is off too - can't remember the exact example but some of their Somerset stuff was wrong...
I think that once you've got to grips with the base concept, it's easy enough [& more satisfying] to do your own local research & come up with plausible units, scenarios etc. And you can spend the cash you've saved on more Pendraken figs ;)
I've got a copy of the second sourcebook, but it was a freebie after I challenged the publisher about the fact that he had used some of my photos of our games I had posted on GWP without asking. I know copyright on the interweb is a grey area, but considering he is using them for financial gain I would have appreciated being asked. Especially has they have this pretend 'gentleman' thing going on over at GWP!
Quote from: nikharwood on 13 February 2011, 04:19:34 PM
I think that once you've got to grips with the base concept, it's easy enough [& more satisfying] to do your own local research & come up with plausible units, scenarios etc. And you can spend the cash you've saved on more Pendraken figs ;)
I agree with you 100% on that
I have the source books, but intend to use Too Fat Lardies Through the Mud & the Blood, which are a bloody fantastic set of rules for both WW1 and the post-war interregnum. Can't recommend them too highly. Also, if you go this route, then Artscow has some very nice cards that you can get too for playing the games innovative initiative system with.
All I need now is to get Leon to make some International Liberty tanks, and some Russian T35s and I'd be good to go.
Quote from: Paint it Pink on 13 February 2011, 05:05:02 PM
All I need now is to get Leon to make some International Liberty tanks, and some Russian T35s and I'd be good to go.
So only the little stuff then :P
Cracking looking figures by the way.
Cast these up and i may well buy them. Heavily committed to my 28mm AVBCW stuff though.
Absolutely love it!
Great to see these figures. Three of us decided to start on this "period" at the weekend when we found a stand selling some lovely N gauge 1930's cars and lorries. As with everyone else using 10mm we first decided to use our early war stuff with just a few add ons, but I don't think it will stay that way.
We aren't using the official sourcebooks but making up our own factions, so far we have the BUF, a socialist/communist workers movement and I'm fielding an aristrocracy-led anti-fascist force. I'm basing my army around the Honourable Robert Henry Brand, younger son of the 3rd Viscount Hampden, who was an international banker, brother-in-law to the extremely wealthy Lord and Lady Astor, and an outspoken anti-nazi in the early 1930s. For an aristo an all round good bloke! ;)
These minis make for some tempting home guard types already for defending blighty against the threat of Invasion and those nasty FJR types...
All we need now is a Dads Army Range ;)
Nosher
thats on my to do list.... :D
Quote from: Nosher on 15 February 2011, 05:43:24 PM
These minis make for some tempting home guard types already for defending blighty against the threat of Invasion and those nasty FJR types...
All we need now is a Dads Army Range ;)
Yep, my thinking to. If it can be used for a very British civil war, it can be used for sealion (some of the Spanish civil war armoured trucks could fit in as local home guard improvised armour as well, and the Guardia de Asalto cap is just like a train drivers cap in any scale!)
Quote from: nikharwood on 13 February 2011, 04:19:34 PM
Dunno - for £12 I expect something to be free from spelling mistakes & to have [at least] a basic grasp of grammar as well as pics that are shot in high resolution...it may be that everything's been sorted [I think they're onto 2nd edition?] but I unloaded my copies after first reading. Some of their 'local' info is off too - can't remember the exact example but some of their Somerset stuff was wrong...
I think you missed the point Nik.
Given that this is a work of speculative history that is increasingly written by the players, none of the stuff is 'wrong'.
The essence of AVBCW is to take your local area, sort out what you feel like playing and have some fun with it, as you say here...
Quote from: nikharwood on 13 February 2011, 04:19:34 PM
I think that once you've got to grips with the base concept, it's easy enough [& more satisfying] to do your own local research & come up with plausible units, scenarios etc. And you can spend the cash you've saved on more Pendraken figs ;)
The AVBCW sourcebooks really are just 'examples and inspiration'...something to get you to go to town on your own version of the conflict.
You don't like what you've read about Cornwall? Do your own research and sort it out as you think it should be.
Personally i think its one of the freshest, most fun things to hit wargaming in a long while - but then i was a contributor to the Northern War supplement (Chopwell Communists & Durham). ;) :D
We're doing it in 28mm but given Pendraken's release i've dug out some original 1938 military maps i have of Dalinton south into Yorkshire. Considering doing something larger scale in 10mm in that area...
a sneaky lot around Chopwell :D bet they hide in the woods around there
Seeing these new releases has confirmed my decision to use Pendraken 10mm for larger VBCW conflicts!
What specific figures are you guys using for BUF? Someone mentioned SCW figs with 'chip bag' caps .... which pack would that be?
Cheers,
Kev
Im on with the first few BUF right now. Il be sending these to leon at the end of Feb eith a few other goodies.
:D
Good chap!
Just started to do my first proper BUF unit. I shall put them on hold for a while ;)
Ah the gentle sounds of MG fire along the A3 :D
Quote from: republic of tolworth on 19 February 2011, 10:56:17 AM
Ah the gentle sounds of MG fire along the A3 :D
That is an average Friday along tolworth broadway
Quote from: snafu on 19 February 2011, 10:50:02 AM
Im on with the first few BUF right now. Il be sending these to leon at the end of Feb eith a few other goodies. :D
Excellent! Perhaps I'll concentrate on other forces for now, just preparing an order .........
Cheers,
Kev
Quote from: Luddite on 19 February 2011, 01:13:40 AM
I think you missed the point Nik.
Given that this is a work of speculative history that is increasingly written by the players, none of the stuff is 'wrong'.
Ah - not arguing about the speculation: my point is about geography...there are place names wrong & towns located in the wrong part of Somerset...that's poor if you ask me and certainly
is wrong...after all, you don't even have to buy a map anymore :)
Quote from: nikharwood on 19 February 2011, 01:33:44 PM
Ah - not arguing about the speculation: my point is about geography...there are place names wrong & towns located in the wrong part of Somerset...that's poor if you ask me and certainly is wrong...after all, you don't even have to buy a map anymore :)
Fair enough old chap.
Could be an error i suppose. :(
I could also be the name-change thing that happens. Many of the historical figures for example have their names changed by the players so as to not cause potential offence. After all many of these famous people will have direct living descendents. Don't want to uspet people by claiming their grandfather would have been a fascist. Possibly the same thing happened with place names? Not sure.
However, i'd say to have a downer on AVBCW because of a placename being wrong is denying yourself a lot of inspiring 'jolly good chap' style fun. :P
Once i've finished off my current 10mm project (pics to follow as promised Leon) i think i'll delve into 10mm AVBCW to support my 28mm stuff... :D
Quote from: Luddite on 19 February 2011, 06:41:25 PM
Fair enough old chap.
Could be an error i suppose. :(
I could also be the name-change thing that happens. Many of the historical figures for example have their names changed by the players so as to not cause potential offence. After all many of these famous people will have direct living descendents. Don't want to uspet people by claiming their grandfather would have been a fascist. Possibly the same thing happened with place names? Not sure.
However, i'd say to have a downer on AVBCW because of a placename being wrong is denying yourself a lot of inspiring 'jolly good chap' style fun. :P
Once i've finished off my current 10mm project (pics to follow as promised Leon) i think i'll delve into 10mm AVBCW to support my 28mm stuff... :D
It's not *just* placenames - it's the overall quality I'm afraid; poor spelling & grammar throughout, poor quality pics as I've stated...I'm not denying myself the "jolly good chap" style fun etc - just regretted forking out £24 on a couple of poor quality books when I didn't need to!
Well to put the book bashing aside for a moment :-X.
Any news on the next batch of VBCW figures in the pipeline snafu? ;)
Snafu dropped off a whole load of bits for us at Triples, including these BUF rifles, and a great LDV officer complete with medals!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5063/5756413925_e5a7fa2135.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pendraken/5756413925/)
Oooo luverly :P These will help fill out the VBCW list .... like it needed lengthening ;D
Cheers,
Kev
looking good
The forces of the right thank you.
Some personality types would be great. Symilar to the SCW ones. Fairly generic but can go as mad as you like with the BCW ;) :D
Excellent - I, like others, can't see myself holding out against these for much longer... :)
Just give in to temptation Nik, experience has taught me that it is the only way to deal with this ;). But seriously, nice figures.
Pendraken is getting the American Army Acronym Disease - enlighten me which war is VBCW? And AVBCW?
Mark
Quote from: nikharwood on 25 May 2011, 10:15:50 PM
Excellent - I, like others, can't see myself holding out against these for much longer... :)
Me neither Nik...
Quote from: sultanbev on 23 June 2011, 08:53:49 AM
Pendraken is getting the American Army Acronym Disease - enlighten me which war is VBCW? And AVBCW?
Mark
"A Very British Civil War"
8)
Quote from: Leon on 23 June 2011, 05:43:46 PM
"A Very British Civil War"
8)
Here you go Mark
http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?s=3f7c2b8d33ddfe2ce0206bbce8e95163&showtopic=1689 (http://gwargamesp.18.forumer.com/index.php?s=3f7c2b8d33ddfe2ce0206bbce8e95163&showtopic=1689)