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Title: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: privateer on 10 February 2011, 04:29:10 AM
Seeing we got a little taste of some new Franco-PRussian figures I would like to put in a request for some Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry, Prussian Hussar, Dragoons, French Hussars, Dragoons, Chasseurs etc. as well as the other states. they should also have horse holders as well
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Leon on 19 February 2011, 03:37:04 AM
Votes added!
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: privateer on 24 February 2011, 05:26:47 AM
thanks Leon, I was thinking I would have got more of a response to my suggestion. Never mined.
How is my order going? is there time to add something else to it.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Leon on 24 February 2011, 06:10:47 AM
Quote from: privateer on 24 February 2011, 05:26:47 AM
thanks Leon, I was thinking I would have got more of a response to my suggestion. Never mined.
How is my order going? is there time to add something else to it.

Yeah, we need to dig out the mould for those rifles for you, so if there's anything you want to add, just pop us an email through.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: privateer on 25 February 2011, 04:59:06 AM
Will do, a friend also wants to add something as well

Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Sunray on 21 December 2011, 10:14:45 PM
Yes - a few dismounted types and horse holders would be very nice.

Sunray out
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: lentulus on 22 December 2011, 01:09:09 PM
Add my vote too, please.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Leman on 23 December 2011, 02:13:51 PM
I'll third this one. I think I've already made mention of the painting of dismounted French chasseurs attacking the inn at Schirlenhof.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Sunray on 27 December 2011, 06:25:31 PM
Not hijacking the thread- but how common was dismounted action by troopers other than dragoons in FPW period ?  From my study of British Regimental diaries, its seems to have been the experience in South Africa - plus the SMLE MkIII  (the Martini Henry carbine had a wandering zero with hot .303)- that stimulated these units to even consider dismounting.  Your reference to Schirlenhof is very interesting. 

Sunray out

Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 December 2011, 09:31:08 AM
Likewise not trying to hijack. Most British Cav dismounted to fight in SA,m but with Lee Metford carbines, the SMLE was introduced after the war.

IanS
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Leman on 28 December 2011, 12:40:51 PM
Yeah, but if you don't give a stuff about a war where the British hardly ever saw the enemy and you are VERY interested in the mid-C19th European wars, then the discussion of dismounted FPW cavalry in an FPW dismounted cavalry thread seems pretty pertinent. Anyway, I'll start a new thread for you.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 December 2011, 02:14:47 PM
Doubt there was much dismounting in the formal bit of the FPW - mots cavalry were still stupid enough to charge mounted.

IanS
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Martyn on 28 December 2011, 04:38:39 PM
Apart from pub bawls cavalry of the FPW followed the doctrine of staying mounted for combat. They certainly did not act like the cavalry of the american civil war. Dismounting to fight would have been considered socially unacceptable. Thats why they charged and died for the glory of an age that had already past.
I would recommend 28mm if you want pub fights and the searching for billets.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Leman on 30 December 2011, 03:09:57 PM
Sorry but you are spouting old chestnuts. Either that or contemporary commentators were seeing things and then making illustrations of their hallucinations; eg. Knotel's picture of dismounted French Dragoons being socially unnacceptable to the Prussians when defending Les Planches. The cavalry of both sides did this from one end of the war to the other. I, and other FPW players, would like to include this type of action in games. That's why we've requested the figures. If you don't want to do this in your games don't buy the figures.
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Aart Brouwer on 30 December 2011, 03:22:19 PM
Excerpt from Shann, Stephen, and Louis Delpérier, French Army 1870-71 Franco-Prussian War (1): Imperial Troops, Osprey Men At Arms 233, Wellingborough, 2004

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4048/frenchdragoonsfpw.png)


Cheers,
Aart
Title: Re: Franco-Prussian Dismounted Cavalry
Post by: Martyn on 02 January 2012, 07:17:31 PM
As per the Osprey item
It was a hastily formed skirmish line and once foot had arrived the cavalry reverted to type. Some  might also want to consider the bridge blowing exploits of the Prussian cavalry who mounted up engineers for one particular operation. There are always exceptions and I know wargamers love exceptions but if you are fighting a full blooded FPW battle cavalry was used as cavalry. Thats what gives that period its particular flavour.
I suppose it's each to his own but I would not make a business plan based on exceptions and rare events particularly as many of the other Pendraken ranges are still incomplete of some of the basics.