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Title: British Napoleonics
Post by: Shecky on 28 April 2022, 04:03:19 AM

Here are some pictures of my Not-a-Kickstarter British Napoleonics. Hopefully they will be on the battlefield in the next month along with their already painted brethren.  Based for Et Sans Resultat.

Horse artillery
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Force and formation commanders
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Infantry

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Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: Steve J on 28 April 2022, 07:26:22 AM
Very nice 8) .
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: mmcv on 28 April 2022, 07:53:23 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: DecemDave on 28 April 2022, 08:11:08 AM
Super stuff.
My lead pile equivalents glare at me daily for not cracking on before the Spanish arrive.
What are your thoughts on ESR basing?  Seems so different to other rules that I worry about having to rebase. I am drawn though to their scale and philosophy to represent the bigger battles.   
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: John Cook on 28 April 2022, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: DecemDave on 28 April 2022, 08:11:08 AMI worry about having to rebase. 

NEVER REBASE, ever.  That's my philosophy because it can be never-ending.  I adapt rules to suit the bases I already have and haven't rebased anything since 2009.
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: mmcv on 28 April 2022, 11:53:10 AM

QuoteNEVER REBASE, ever.  That's my philosophy because it can be never-ending.  I adapt rules to suit the bases I already have and haven't rebased anything since 2009.
Unless you're completely unhappy with your original basing and as such never use them. Though I would agree with not rebasing for a particular ruleset as most can be worked around, more just for aesthetics and practicality.

What are those based on? 40mm squares?
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: DecemDave on 28 April 2022, 12:14:24 PM
Sorry chaps, I should have been more specific. I agree with your philosophies but I was more interested in the thought processes of an ESR user as to what they had chosen.  ESR permits all sorts of basing.  (extract below)   indeed you can even use armies based differently by altering the scale of units they represent .  But their recommended scheme is a little complex so I was curious as to what the OP went for.

(https://i.imgur.com/qAML74D.png)

And, of course us Europhiles will still want the nearest equivalent metric basing.  Even Boris hasn't made us go back to Imperial measurements.  (be interesting to get that through the woke brigade).

Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: fred. on 28 April 2022, 06:08:46 PM
Is that an actual photo of the rule book? Or is there some weird highlighting going on with selection from a digital version? The green highlight really isn't needed. 

The presentation of that is horrific - I think its really saying there is a basic depth to a unit, and that is the also the frontage for 300 men sized units, and scales from there. Although the real world dimensions don't quite seem to tally with the base sizes. 

And yes fractions of inches are just horrible to work with
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: collegialhoagie on 28 April 2022, 08:13:11 PM
Those units looks great, nice job! :)

QuoteAnd yes fractions of inches are just horrible to work with

Agree, if only there was a another widely adopted system of measurement built on enlightenment rationale and revolutionary disregard for tradition :-\  :-\  :-\  :-\ ;D
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: Shecky on 29 April 2022, 12:34:42 AM
Thanks everyone for the compliments.

As for the basing, mine are on 30x30mm stands. That includes infantry, artillery and cavalry.

I've talked to David, the author, about the base sizes before. That base size chart linked on their web site came from the first edition of the rules but doesn't really apply anymore. When the 2nd edition came out they teamed with another 10mm manufacturer to package starter forces that included figures, flags and bases. They settled on 30mm square bases for 10mm figures partly for ease of packaging and because it fit with the 1"=150 yard scale. You no longer have to worry about depicting large or small units on different sized bases as that's handled by unit traits.

If anyone has questions about the rules I'd be glad to answer as best I can.
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: fred. on 29 April 2022, 06:50:37 AM
Good to hear that the basing rules have been simplified (and moved to metric)!

I'd have thought large units could just be represented by more bases? But sometimes traits work for this. 
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: Techno 3 on 30 April 2022, 06:27:44 AM
Bit late...but very nice work, that man !
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 April 2022, 07:01:41 AM
Quote from: DecemDave on 28 April 2022, 12:14:24 PMSorry chaps, I should have been more specific. I agree with your philosophies....


Oh, for the old days of Grant and Young, before wargames were full of all this existential angst and Carthesian dualism. When all you needed was an Airfix army, some Humbrol, twenty measuring devices, and a mastery of Socratic dialectic....
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 April 2022, 07:06:19 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 30 April 2022, 07:01:41 AMOh, for the old days of Grant and Young, before wargames were full of all this existential angst and Carthesian dualism. When all you needed was an Airfix army, some Humbrol, twenty measuring devices, and a mastery of Socratic dialectic....

What ?????>?>?>
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 April 2022, 07:14:30 AM
Spendid work
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: fsn on 30 April 2022, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 April 2022, 07:06:19 AMWhat ?????>?>?>
Just Kitty pretending to be intelligent again.  =)
Title: Re: British Napoleonics
Post by: DecemDave on 30 April 2022, 12:50:51 PM
QuoteWhat ?????>?>?>


What he is saying is that because my mind is made of an immaterial thinking substance which does not occupy space (Carthesian dualism) I get far too anxious about how I can possibly go on without knowing the perfect and universal basing system (existential angst).  Its his equivalent of "Calm down dear".   Of course I do still have "Airfix" armies and Humbrol paints but we can leave their exact composition and use to be discovered through some future probing exchange of information.