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Title: ECW infantry flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 April 2022, 07:40:47 PM
Well...
Today's question.
Iain at Flags of War has kindly rescaled his 28mm ECW flags to 15mm for me.
Before I commit any cardinal sins (again)..?
Can I put both flags in an ECW unit?
Ta
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: mollinary on 12 April 2022, 08:39:47 PM
The number of flags you decide to include in any miniature unit, regardless of scale, is almost entirely aesthetic. The common theory is a full strength ECW regiment would have 10 flags, a double strength unit, such as Newcastle's or Manchester's might have as many as 20. However, rarely would so many be carried in the field. Richard Symond's diary records the royalist flags he observed during his service with the King's army in 1644. They vary in numbers per formation, and a number seem to include flags from more than one regiment being borne in a single battalia.  The simple answer to your question is yes, but give them a decent number of troops as a colour guard!
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 April 2022, 09:09:49 PM
Thank you sir.
Unfortunately in 15mm ReG that's 24 figures in the unit total!  :'(
Now if I was in 10mm there would be 60 figures, which always looks cooler!  8) 
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: mollinary on 12 April 2022, 09:22:38 PM
Two in a unit of 24 should look splendid!
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: paulr on 12 April 2022, 11:06:35 PM
Just make sure they have different numbers of devices or flames as these denote different companies of the regiment

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7808/31529227587_3d2c9caca7_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q38wUc)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4868/31529227127_0bb1c37698_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q38wLg)

Or they can be from two different regiments that have been combined into a single battalia

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4888/39707254633_afb23a8639_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23uN4qv)
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: DHautpol on 14 April 2022, 12:57:05 PM
I like the idea of using plenty of flags and have given my ECW infantry three flags per regiment.  I have grouped them in the front rank of the pike block as I feel it gives the look you see in the prints of the period.

(https://i.imgur.com/v3MmTKm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cqn2c8H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sQkoShj.jpg)
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: mmcv on 14 April 2022, 01:14:52 PM
Having a look at the flags of war site it does look like each one has two different flags in the same style (as previously mentioned to represent different companies). 

So in answer to your question, yes you can use them both.
Title: Re: ECW infantry flags
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 April 2022, 06:15:11 PM
Thanks chaps!  8)